He had a 44% passing accuracy and lost the ball 14 times, with all due respect what the fek are you on about? There should be no excuse for that level of mediocrity and I don't know why you are excusing it.
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He had a 44% passing accuracy and lost the ball 14 times, with all due respect what the fek are you on about? There should be no excuse for that level of mediocrity and I don't know why you are excusing it.
Read properly and grow up.
Do you maybe happen to watch the game too, not just numbers?
That is what I am saying - he was constantly surrounded by multiple Wolves defenders. Our wingers and other teammates offered no movement or help. You literally need a generational talent at their peak to produce anything in such situation.
For millionth of time - I did not say that Richie had superb game. I am saying that literally all of our players had awfully shit game. Richie among them. But he as ST got 0 service, 0 help to create room, nothing.
Complete and utter BS, this is honestly laughable.
This was his first half highlights against Wolves, only a couple of times in this highlights package you could say he was surrounded by Wolves defenders, the rest of the times was just sloppy passing, giving the ball away, poor first touches, not releasing the ball when he should have, he even inexplicably touched the ball for the corner for their goal when he didn't have to, look:
Richarlison's 1st half highlights vs Wolves - before they decided to park the bus
Video Richarlison's 1st half highlights vs Wolves - before they decided to park the bus was uploaded to Streamin.me on Feb 17, 2024.
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Also not to mention the amount of stupid fouls he committed when we were in a position to press as well
The guy was just rank bad, why are people so desperate to defend this crap, it's honestly insane??
Oh and quit the strawman, I didn't say you said that Richy had a good game, I'm just arguing against your dumb excuses and saying that you had to be prime Ibra to play against this Wolves defence - utter nonsense.
Please stop wasting both yours and my time, don't bother responding unless you come up with something worthwhile and not this bollocks you've been peddling in here, cheers
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You are right regarding the game but we can clearly see he is not a striker that we can rely on consistently for a top team. Problem with him is that he can't create anything for himself when he has the ball. When off the ball his movement is subpar although he does press hard. He is at best a squad player/backup striker.
Keep him and buy someone who hopefully puts him on the bench. It can get better than Richy, but it can get worse, too. Not interested in selling him and buying 2 new CFs.
Why do we need to buy 2 CF's to replace Richy? Only need 1
It's baffling to me that peeps feel the need to be on this endless quest to assess and re-assess Richy...........
It's more than obvious who/what he is....... A decent (not top tier) player that'll work his bollocks off and in a decent team will bag 10-15 goals across a season (and even managed to do so in a shit team once or twice). Similarly, as you can see from him at int. level; stick good players around him and he'll score at a decent rate.
.....If he doesn't score for the next few games, none of that really changes.
The only pertinent narrative here really is that we paid a lot of money in hope/anticipation that a better team would see him level up even further (albeit as a rotation player); which does not look likely.
I think the implication is that we need at least one new ST regardless.......
Personally I'm more than happy with Rich as #2 next season. Sure, if one of Veliz or Scarlett surpass him then all's the better, but essentially buying another #2 (given the potential re-sale on Rich); we'd only end up with another 'project' like Veliz anyway.
Well, that's similar to what I said in the same post you quoted
That one-touch or two-touch football is his level. He can't take the ball under control, drop the shoulder and play angled pass to a teammate. Nor can he create from himself, agreed. So basically we are on the agreement regarding him.
Sorry, could not watch it from work computer.Complete and utter BS, this is honestly laughable.
This was his first half highlights against Wolves, only a couple of times in this highlights package you could say he was surrounded by Wolves defenders, the rest of the times was just sloppy passing, giving the ball away, poor first touches, not releasing the ball when he should have, he even inexplicably touched the ball for the corner for their goal when he didn't have to, look:
Richarlison's 1st half highlights vs Wolves - before they decided to park the bus
Video Richarlison's 1st half highlights vs Wolves - before they decided to park the bus was uploaded to Streamin.me on Feb 17, 2024.
Also not to mention the amount of stupid fouls he committed when we were in a position to press as well
The guy was just rank bad, why are people so desperate to defend this crap, it's honestly insane??
Oh and quit the strawman, I didn't say you said that Richy had a good game, I'm just arguing against your dumb excuses and saying that you had to be prime Ibra to play against this Wolves defence - utter nonsense.
Please stop wasting both yours and my time, don't bother responding unless you come up with something worthwhile and not this bollocks you've been peddling in here, cheers
Watched this 1 minute 20 sec video - first few things about that -
1) YES, in fact if you yourself would look at that video, you would notice that in most situations there were THREE or FOUR Wolves defenders closing in on him. Either in moment when he is running in from left wing to close passing routes, or when he is fighting for some headers or when he tries to control the pass that came in from left wing. It absolutely proves what I said, so thank you for that.
2) Stupid fouls - well, fuck me, I've been saying this for long time now- WE HAVE TO MAKE THE GAME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE for opposition. We need 9 more players, running down, putting opposition players under pressure and if needed, fouling them. Not 1 less for fuck sake. Most of our lads just gladly step aside and give opposition free route to do whatever they wish.
3) Yes, he does make mistakes / misses target / slips at the time, like well, ALL of our forward players did in the game, he is not the silkiest of the players, why are you inventing a wheel here? Who has ever said he was?
Generally speaking, I find it shocking that anyone has the fucking dignity (or ABSOLUTE LACK OF IT) to ask why I am not calling Spurs striker, that just came off run of 9 EPL goals from 8 EPL games "absolute horrific shit".
Maybe try to get some wider perspective. Yes - he had poor game overall. So did literally every Spurs players on the pitch. What is wrong with admitting he had poor performance but saying that there were also some reasons for it. Maybe you should explain here, what does it give us if we all fucking mob up and in every personal thread call every single player "absolute fucking garbage" or "just rank bad"? Why can't there be any middle ground? And why exactly can't we cut some slack to player who, again, just scored 9 goals in 8 EPL games? Why?
But I absolutely stand my ground - Richie could have done better in this game. But to single out ONE player who got next to 0 service the way striker would need the service is freaking weird. And I stand by it that in such a shitshow of a team-performance, you would have needed absolute top class striker to bail the whole remaining team out with some solo-goals.
I think we will pack Scarlett off on another loan next season, Veliz will come back and then if we sell Richy then that will give us the chance to go and get 1 in so next season we'll have Son, Richy replacement and Veliz vying for one spot.
Also keeping Richy at no2 is pointless, he needs to play regularly - the main reason why he's hit this recent hot streak is because he's been playing a succession of matches otherwise we are using him as a no2 for what, I'd say sell him this Summer whilst his stocks are high.
Okay you're really going to make me do this aren't you.
0:06 Correct - Marked tight by Dawson(?) another player closing
0:13 Nope - Market tight by Dawson, get shrugged off the ball too easily.
0:19 Nope - Poor first touch, mis controls the ball resulting in Wolves players regaining possession
All the other times he didn't have 2 or 3 Wolves players around him, watch it again.
Like - If you're seriously sitting there and telling me that players like Watkins or Toney or Solanke wouldn't have made more of those situations they you may as well give up watching football tbh because we all know that if they have a 3 on 3 they aren't offering up a tame shot whilst slipping on their arse.
Let me get this straight, you're actually justifying players making stupid fouls when they don't even need to...what are we even doing here?
What?
I don't know what you're on about, we officially have the best press in the league therefore we already make the game uncomfortable for the opponent, what would fouling do apart from relieving the pressure on the opps when they have the ball?
The point you keep wilfully missing is that outside of scoring his contribution isn't good enough and we can do better, being our central target man it's still his responsibility to make use of the ball and bring your team mates into play, that's the very least you can do when you're not scoring goals.
Maturing as an adult is realising that you can hold more than one schools of thought at the same time.
Like you can praise him for his hot streak which I have done multiple times in this thread but at the same time you can criticise when he has poor matches, that shouldn't be shocking or any extreme you want to use to the average person.
I don't care about you, I'm not asking you for your opinion and couldn't give a toss what you think. I'm the one who made the opinion about his performance and you took exception to it hence why we are having this stupid debate.
Yes everyone else had a poor game and that's why everyone else have their own threads
but we're in the Richarlison thread mate - that's literally what these threads are for, as much as we pour adulation on players when they play well, they are here to critique as well - this is not a fucking echo chamber.This has nothing to do with mobbing up and picking on certain players either, quit the emotional shit.
For the record I didn't call him rank bad, I called his performance rank bad, there's a clear difference - it seems that you want to have a different argument to me here, if you want to debate whether he's good enough to be in this team then be my guest but my point all along is that I've been making an isolated argument about his performance against Wolves because it's a fact that it wasn't good enough.
The fact that you think I'm singling out Richy when I've said numerous times that not everything is on him tells me you're even trying to comprehend anything I say in my argument or you're just being an argumentative clown, probably the latter.
If you honestly watch that video and think that only a top class striker would have done better in the situations that Richy found himself in then we'll just leave it there - it's pretty clear that someone here accepts absolute mediocrity and has no interest in our club pushing onto the next level and it ain't me.
FFS. Just seen this.
www.bbc.co.uk
Richarlison out for up to a month with knee injury
Tottenham forward Richarlison will be out for "three to four weeks" with a knee injury, says boss Ange Postecoglou.
www.bbc.co.uk
we get proper cunted on injuriesFFS. Just seen this.
Richarlison out for up to a month with knee injury
Tottenham forward Richarlison will be out for "three to four weeks" with a knee injury, says boss Ange Postecoglou.
Bring back Chris Armstrong ffs
Sonny as CF is what a lot of the 'spurts on here are calling for so this is a good opportunity to do itwe get proper cunted on injuries
Can you expand?Okay you're really going to make me do this aren't you.
0:06 Correct - Marked tight by Dawson(?) another player closing
0:13 Nope - Market tight by Dawson, get shrugged off the ball too easily.
0:19 Nope - Poor first touch, mis controls the ball resulting in Wolves players regaining possession
All the other times he didn't have 2 or 3 Wolves players around him, watch it again.
Like - If you're seriously sitting there and telling me that players like Watkins or Toney or Solanke wouldn't have made more of those situations they you may as well give up watching football tbh because we all know that if they have a 3 on 3 they aren't offering up a tame shot whilst slipping on their arse.
Let me get this straight, you're actually justifying players making stupid fouls when they don't even need to...what are we even doing here?
What?
I don't know what you're on about, we officially have the best press in the league therefore we already make the game uncomfortable for the opponent, what would fouling do apart from relieving the pressure on the opps when they have the ball?
The point you keep wilfully missing is that outside of scoring his contribution isn't good enough and we can do better, being our central target man it's still his responsibility to make use of the ball and bring your team mates into play, that's the very least you can do when you're not scoring goals.
Maturing as an adult is realising that you can hold more than one schools of thought at the same time.
Like you can praise him for his hot streak which I have done multiple times in this thread but at the same time you can criticise when he has poor matches, that shouldn't be shocking or any extreme you want to use to the average person.
I don't care about you, I'm not asking you for your opinion and couldn't give a toss what you think. I'm the one who made the opinion about his performance and you took exception to it hence why we are having this stupid debate.
Yes everyone else had a poor game and that's why everyone else have their own threads
This has nothing to do with mobbing up and picking on certain players either, quit the emotional shit.
For the record I didn't call him rank bad, I called his performance rank bad, there's a clear difference - it seems that you want to have a different argument to me here, if you want to debate whether he's good enough to be in this team then be my guest but my point all along is that I've been making an isolated argument about his performance against Wolves because it's a fact that it wasn't good enough.
The fact that you think I'm singling out Richy when I've said numerous times that not everything is on him tells me you're even trying to comprehend anything I say in my argument or you're just being an argumentative clown, probably the latter.
If you honestly watch that video and think that only a top class striker would have done better in the situations that Richy found himself in then we'll just leave it there - it's pretty clear that someone here accepts absolute mediocrity and has no interest in our club pushing onto the next level and it ain't me.
Only option innit. Can’t see Ange picking Dane