The majority of football club owners are really shit - in every aspect of running their club
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The majority of football club owners are really shit - in every aspect of running their club
Whilst it's true we were part of the big 5 around the 80s in to 90s, that counts for little as we missed out on the CL/Sky TV gravy train which propelled a select few clubs way out in front financially- so comparing a snapshot of then vs now, showing us as big 5 v big 6 doesn't tell the full story of what happened in between.
I think it was "Don't have nightmares"
But as we watch Everton and Leeds and so help me god the Spam rapidly make up the ground we sped through thanks almost exclusively to Poch, what difference does that make?
An unlimited budget is the only ticket to revenue stability. As I've said a million times, football is a shitty business. If ENIC doesn't like it then ENIC can take their two billion pound profit and fuck off.
Agree. When it started I thought this is a bit much and didn't join in. Half the people singing it were actually singing the Sol Campbell version.
But you know what. Levy could have killed this club twice (Stratford and ESL). If he had succeeded either time then certainly there would be a lot more people singing that song. He failed but the intention was there. You reap what you sow.
The point is that we have advantages that many other clubs do not and that those things have been present since before Levy got here.
But this line of thinking is how fans make excuses for ENIC by overrating what they supposedly did in the past and ignoring how shit they have been.
It actually kind of reminds me our transfer business as well. Sure Anderson isn't good enough, but he is better than Anderson so lets go!
Don't confuse a season or two doing well (Europa positions??) on the pitch with closing of the gap financially - we done similar when we were managed by Jol but were still miles off the pace, think we were closer to the teams at the bottom of the table than Woolwich one place above wrt to finances. We can now expect to compete at the top of the league with the revenue we now have in place thanks to the stadium and other areas of growth off the field.
What advantages?
Levy probably spent £30m all in on Sissoko vs Chelsea spending £30m + huge wages to Kante.
And Kante probably would have turned his nose up at us like all top tier players do. And he would have been right to do so.
Location, history, size of the fan base.
Spurs were one of the bigger clubs in England when Levy took over. They are historically a big club with a big fanbase. As I had already shown they were one of the big 5 when the PL started 10 years before Levy took over. There is a reason they were the club he bought.
There are things that Spurs have that a team like Burnley does not. Outside of splashing huge amounts of personal cash and not worrying about running a proper business Burnley cannot do what we are, they don't have the fan base, they don't have the corporate opportunities, they don't have the global appeal etc.
He’s an effective businessman, doesn’t mean he’s a good leader. I don’t see a lot of good output from anyone else under his tenure really bar a handful of people
We absolutely cannot. The dizzing heights of recent season's revenue numbers reflect the massive TV and matchday income from Poch's Champions League campaigns, something that our current squad level and poor and under-financed transfer policy make a near impossibility in the future. The revenue arrow is pointing straight down.
Even so we remain ahead of the likes of Everton and West Ham as a business, but only marginally, and if those clubs continue to spend a higher percentage of their turnover on the squad and spend it more intelligently, they will zip by us with ease.
The business genius at Tottenham Hotspur is Mauricio Pochettino, period, end of story.
I'd say there was at least 300 there. I don't know how to post pictures on here but some funny banners made and hung up on the opposite side of the road to the stadium. I'm sure the pics are somewhere on the internet. A lot of smoke bombs and good to see Chick King do well out of it.
Younger fans don’t realise that the benchmark isn’t how shit Spurs were in the 90’s, it’s the fact we were the best supported club from the 60-80’s bar Utd and Liverpool
Are people still up for tomorrow as well,do you reckon?
I would say yes judging by the people I spoke to! (which obviously was not everyone)
No ones comparing us to Burnley, that's a silly thing to say.
We were/are a big club - but that only gets you so far off the field and with 4 similar sized clubs having a 10+ year headstart on CL revenue and associated sponsorship deals then it barely means anything, those clubs had the same or better base as us and then got an unfair advantage on top of that - despite that we're actually now going to be on a level with Chelsea/Woolwich/Liverpool off the field once crowds are back to stadiums.
When Enic came in Leeds, Villa & Newcastle had similar revenues to us, that's the level our fanbase/history/location got us at that point - we're now way out ahead of those clubs off the field, that isn't something that was destined to happen irrespective of who was in charge.
The CL revenue of course is an extra but the stadium revenue increase actually betters it - take CL revenue out and Spurs will be making better money than all but City & United (in normal post noncovid situation)
Unfortunately having a big/huge fanbase domestically before english football exploded world wide and became the huge money spinner it is today doesn't really count for shit (wrt to this particular argument)
Just watched Leicester win the FA Cup and their owner is crying with happiness.
I don't think we'd see that emotion from Levy.
I don't think we'd see that emotion from Levy.