In defence of the defence

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No no no no.

You start talking up Rose because we only gave one goal away? Our center backs were absolutely IMMENSE and that was because Naughton and Rose waved through danger and cross after cross after cross. In the middle we are solid.

Rose, Naughton and Lennon are liabilities off the ball. They are the reason Kaboul looked good because he was given WAY TOO MUCH to do because of the wide open flanks. It's very dangerous to think we are getting better. If we continue with these players on the flanks, no matter who you put there are going to have a NIGHTMARE in the middle. From every aspect of the game, he is a bad defender apart from pace.

Danny Rose is a winger.
If you're saying that Rose/Naughton haven't improved under Pochettino, you definitely haven't seen our games
 
Where were the clear cut chances? Can't remember hardly any, maybe the header from a setpiece (but not from open play).

Rose, certainly in the second half, was a match for Chamberlain. Who was their best player. Let them swing balls into the box, we could deal with them. It was inviting the right kind of pressure rather than letting them run in behind. Following Liverpool, Sunderland and West Brom, that's progress and a manager who is learning how to set up his side. I like the flexibility.

Obviously the side will be better with Walker in it, he was our best player until injury last season (imho), but getting more out of squad players is to be welcomed. We're not going to find many better fullbacks to sit on the bench when the first choice ones are back/integrated. Other clubs get far more out of far less than we tend to.

[Wrote the piece btw]
i see you use IMHO...
don't you know, here, we dont care about you opinion. its wrong and from satan.
:eriksenlol:
beacuse of...reasons... dont argue.
 
He's not a Spurs fan - no one can be this thick and make such observations if supposedly they were watching our games. He's a vile troll and a fantasist mouth-breather. Elimination is the only solution here, afaic.

Rose was voted Sunlun's player of the season too - this cunt knows no shame really
 
gibbs131
i think that its fair to say that dRose is now a fullback. he has played FB now how many seasons ?
you cant argue about that.
if he'd be any better being a winger, dontcha think he would already play there. it's damn obvious.
im now starting to think you dont watch games, because aint nobody gonna argue about rose being a defender. also why you always fight?
statistically..you are like the only one who thinks he has not improved. so who is wrong ?
the universe or you ?
 
I think we were TERRIBLE in defense against Woolwich. Kaboul was bombarded so often from the wings, it was almost comical. Any other day that could have been a nightmare.

Where were the clear cut chances? Can't remember hardly any, maybe the header from a setpiece (but not from open play).

Rose, certainly in the second half, was a match for Chamberlain. Who was their best player. Let them swing balls into the box, we could deal with them. It was inviting the right kind of pressure rather than letting them run in behind. Following Liverpool, Sunderland and West Brom, that's progress and a manager who is learning how to set up his side. I like the flexibility.

Obviously the side will be better with Walker in it, he was our best player until injury last season (imho), but getting more out of squad players is to be welcomed. We're not going to find many better fullbacks to sit on the bench when the first choice ones are back/integrated. Other clubs get far more out of far less than we tend to.

[Wrote the piece btw]
 
He's not a Spurs fan - no one can be this thick and make such observations if supposedly they were watching our games. He's a vile troll and a fantasist mouth-breather. Elimination is the only solution here, afaic.

Rose was voted Sunlun's player of the season too - this cunt knows no shame really

You are the one who deserves to be binned. You trying to get me sin binned and ignoring thread topics is a shitty snitch move.

You offer nothing but abuse. At least I talk spurs and back it up with real events.

Vote for Arcspace to be binned please. It will be comdedy gold.
 
You can't really say that because we have not started anyone else at left back this season in the prem. IMO Davies has way more defensive tools in his locker and will help us avoid being too soft.

I don't think it's hard to be better than Rose frankly.

I think we were TERRIBLE in defense against Woolwich. Kaboul was bombarded so often from the wings, it was almost comical. Any other day that could have been a nightmare. You have to step back and not call that a good back 4 if he is being a titan in the middle. Lamela and Naughton cost the goal. A classic example of Naughton standing off giving his opp as much room as he wants to get his pass/cross away.

I was devastated for Kab. All that effort/brilliance undone because of our soft wings. Yet again.
there is obviously a reason why we haven't played anybody else there.
also the fuck ? " Lamela and Naughton cost the goal." we were talking about dRose.
by any means, bitch as much as you want, but Özil, Ox, Welbeck, Alexis would make pretty much every back line look weak, but as you can see, we drew that game, and I DONT give a shit how and who defended. Defence is a unit, slagging off Rose and now Naughton is not a solution.
 
Lamela and Naughton cost the goal.

Hands down Lamela cost that goal. He ran to the ball, where Naughton already was, to make up for his terrible clearance and left Cazorla/Alexis (whoever it was) completely free on the edge of the area. He stays on his runner, there's no chance. That's 5 a side, kids defending 101.

He set up our goal, so not a witch hunt, but shows where his game has to improve off the ball (as did West Brom).
 
No no no no.

You start talking up Rose because we only gave one goal away? Our center backs were absolutely IMMENSE and that was because Naughton and Rose waved through danger and cross after cross after cross. In the middle we are solid.

Rose, Naughton and Lennon are liabilities off the ball. They are the reason Kaboul looked good because he was given WAY TOO MUCH to do because of the wide open flanks. It's very dangerous to think we are getting better. If we continue with these players on the flanks, no matter who you put there are going to have a NIGHTMARE in the middle. From every aspect of the game, he is a bad defender apart from pace.

Danny Rose is a winger.

If we have more solid players on our wings, we will reap the rewards. Over the past year Kaboul and Jan have been through the mixer with these wingers oleying everything through. Talk about defending practice! They will be perfect!
 
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If you're saying that Rose/Naughton haven't improved under Pochettino, you definitely haven't seen our games

It's not like we've been fucking great is it? Go and look at all goals we concede. Do the same for last season too.

Isn't this the worst start since Ramos? We won despite Naughton. He got sent off in our opener. Solid as a rock!

And even if they do improve its not good enough. They got voted as worst players of the season often. It's not like they will improve to anything worth a damn. I can't wait for Yedlin or Walker to play, and the sooner Davies is a regular, the easier our CB's can breathe.

ANYTHING but Rose and Naughton at the back. I'd play an unproven yank I've never seen play over nailed on mediocrity.
 
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gibbs131
i think that its fair to say that dRose is now a fullback. he has played FB now how many seasons ?
you cant argue about that.
if he'd be any better being a winger, dontcha think he would already play there. it's damn obvious.
im now starting to think you dont watch games, because aint nobody gonna argue about rose being a defender. also why you always fight?
statistically..you are like the only one who thinks he has not improved. so who is wrong ?
the universe or you ?

It was Sherwood that swapped him to be a defender.

Sherwood is insane.

IMO Rose has the best cross out of our wingbacks, and he's learned enough in the last year to not be a liability as much as Lennon, Townsend and Eriksen if he is played there. Much better suited to be away from our danger zone. There is no better way to say it, but he's so fucking thick he's a danger to himself and others in defense. He daydreams more than any player I've seen.

He gets players sent off, hospital balls, plays people onside and he goes forward waaaaaay to often. Plus he compounds us from crosses and defending corners etc. He does not even use his pace very well.
 
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BTW I think his slight improvement vs the scum was the fact that he was made a left back, and not a left wing back. So he was present more often.
 
It was Sherwood that swapped him to be a defender.

Sherwood is insane.

IMO Rose has the best cross out of our wingbacks, and he's learned enough in the last year to not be a liability as much as Lennon, Townsend and Eriksen if he is played there. Much better suited to be away from our danger zone. There is no better way to say it, but he's so fucking thick he's a danger to himself and other in defense. He daydreams more than any player I've seen.
in the meanwhile, lil Timmy wasnt Sunderlands manager while dRose was there. as i recall correctly, he has played LB in the first team & sunderland for 4 years. yet only you seem to belive hes wrongly positioned. i dont even care who first tried him at LB, he seems perfectly fine with his position, every manager have utilised him there. HE IS A LEFT BACK.

also, i admire you now, it took how long to respond ? 11 seconds ? are you bored ? how old are you ? 6, that would explain how you always have time to post here, as you dont go to school yet.

ArcspacE ArcspacE
but then again, why would a Millwall fan argue about Tottenham so passionately ? but you got a point, for a totnum fan, he seems to lack proper footballing knowledge about us.
 
in the meanwhile, lil Timmy wasnt Sunderlands manager while dRose was there. as i recall correctly, he has played LB in the first team & sunderland for 4 years. yet only you seem to belive hes wrongly positioned. i dont even care who first tried him at LB, he seems perfectly fine with his position, every manager have utilised him there. HE IS A LEFT BACK.

also, i admire you now, it took how long to respond ? 11 seconds ? are you bored ? how old are you ? 6, that would explain how you always have time to post here, as you dont go to school yet.

They almost got relegated. Sherwood made him a wingback before that loan.
Sherwood:

"Don't forget that Danny's only been a left-back for a few seasons. I had a chat with him probably three or four years ago and said that, in my opinion, if he was going to play at the top level in the Premier League, he needed to switch his position to play left-back. At first he was a little apprehensive but he's bought into it.
Read more at http://talksport.com/football/forge...ep-faith-rose-14050690043#5YtQDcuJvwPSUBv1.99

Siggy: Just because Arcspace and a few others constantly talk shit about me, there is no need to pile on. Arcspace has been trying to get me sin binned all week. Don't buy into him starting shitfests constantly.

He's not interested in Danny Rose. Check this thread. It's all just aimed at me.

IMO if he gets sin binned for off topic abuse, it would be comedy gold and the ultimate backfire.
 
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