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Non-HG, Non-U21 (17 maximum, else loan/reserves):
  1. Alderweireld, Tobias Albertine Maurits
  2. Dembélé, Moussa
  3. Dier, Eric Jeremy Edgar
  4. Eriksen, Christian Dannemann
  5. Janssen, Vincent Petrus Anna Sebastiaan
  6. Lamela, Erik Manuel
  7. Lloris, Hugo
  8. López Sabata, Pau (on loan from RCD Espanyol)
  9. Sissoko, Moussa
  10. Son Heung-Min
  11. Vertonghen, Jan
  12. Vorm, Michel Armand
  13. Wanyama, Victor Mugubi
  14. Wimmer, Kevin
HG, Non-U21 (surplus must be loaned/reserves)
  1. * Davies, Benjamin Thomas
  2. ** Kane, Harry Edward
  3. ** Rose, Daniel Lee
  4. * Trippier, Kieran John
  5. * Walker, Kyle Andrew
Non-U21 on loan (unlimited):
  1. ** Bentaleb, Nabil (at Schalke)
  2. Fazio, Federico Julián (at Roma)
  3. ** Lesniak, Filip (on loan until January)
  4. Njie, Clinton Mua (at l’OM for the season)
U21 (unlimited):
Class of 2016:

  1. ** McGee, Luke Paul (1995.9.2) w, os (on loan to Peterborough for season)
  2. NKoudou Mbida, Georges-Kévin
Class of 2017:
  1. * Alli, Bamidele Jermaine (1996.4.11)
  2. ** Miller, William (1996.6.8) w, os (on loan to Burton Albion for season)
  3. ** Oduwa, Nathan (1996.3.5) w, os
  4. ** Ogilvie, Connor Stuart (1996.2.14) w, os
  5. Pritchard, Joe (1996.9.19) os
  6. ** Winks, Harry (1996.2.2) w, os
Class of 2018:
  1. Amos, Luke Ayodele (1997.2.23) w, os
  2. Carter-Vickers, Cameron (1997.12.31) w, os
  3. Georgiou, Anthony Michael (1997.2.24) w, os
  4. Goddard, Cy (1997.4.2) w, os
  5. Harrison, Shayon (1997.7.13) w, os (on loan to Yeovil Town for season)
  6. Maghoma, Christian (1997.11.8) w, os
  7. ** Onomah, Joshua (1997.4.27) w, os
  8. Voss, Harry (1997.1.11) w, os
  9. Walker-Peters, Kyle (1997.4.13) w, os
  10. Walkes, Anton (1997.2.8) w, os
Class of 2019:
  1. Glover, Thomas William (1997.12.24) w, os
  2. Loft, Ryan (1997.9.14) w, os (on loan to Stevenage for season)
  3. McDermott, Thomas William (1998.1.30) w, os
  4. Muscatt, Joseph Luis (1997.12.15) w, os
  5. Owens, Charlie (1997.12.7) w, os
  6. Stylianides, Zenon (1998.1.7) w, os
  7. Tracey, Shilow (1998.4.29) w, os
Academy second years:
  1. Austin, Brandon Anthony (1999.9.14) w, os
  2. Bennetts, Keanan Chidozie (1999.3.9) w, os
  3. Brown, Jaden (1999.6.1) w, os
  4. Duncan, Dylan (1999.1.25) w, os
  5. Edwards, Marcus (1998.12.3) w, os
  6. González Velasco, Juan Pablo (1999.2.2)
  7. Marsh, George Owen (1998.11.5) w, os
  8. Mukena, Joy-Richard (1999.7.3) w, os
  9. Oteh, Aremide Jay (1998.9.10) w, os
  10. Roles, Jack (1999.2.26) w, os
  11. Shashoua, Samuel (1999.4.5) w, os
  12. Sterling, Kazaiah (1998.11.9) w, os
  13. Taganga, Japhet Manzambi (1999.5.2) w, os
  14. Tsaroulla, Nicholas (1999.3.29) w, os
  15. Whiteman, Alfie (1998.10.2) w, os
Academy first years:
  1. De Bie, Jonathan (2000.5.28) os
  2. Dinyezi, Jonathan Toko Lema (1999.10.13) os
  3. Eyoma, Timothy Joel (2000.1.29) os
  4. Freeman, Charlie (1999.9.28) os
  5. Griffiths, Reo Revaldo (2000.6.27) os
  6. Hinds, Tariq Devontae Aaron (2000.6.15) os
  7. Lock, Matthew Joseph (2000.4.1) os
  8. Oakley-Boothe, Tashan (2000.2.14) os
  9. Omolabi, Moroyin (2000.1.9) os
  10. Reynolds, Jamie Joe (1999.9.22) os
** = club-trained, * = association-trained

w = attested on Wikipedia, os = attested on official site
 
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My Opinion on 1st Team
SORRY FOR SPELLING
GK - LORRIS
CB - ALDERWIRIELD
LWB - ROSE
RWB - WALKER
CDM - DIER
CDM - WANYAMA
CAM - ALLI
LM - LAMELA
RM - ERIKSEN
ST - KANE
ST - JANSSEN
 
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We actually have a good side this season, everyone has settled down and I think this can be an exciting season. We are predicted 7th by the media and other fans, we know our players are actually pretty good talentwise, therefore it is certainly possible for them to surprise us this season, in a good way. I don;t understand why so many players are been so quick to write off these players, they're the reason I'm excited.

Up front we have Emmanuel Adebayor, proven striker, I don't believe he is playing for a contract. Last summer he lost his brother, that coupled with the Togo shootings have, as they should have had a large impact on him. He was unfit and I don't believe AVB tapped into how motivated Ade is nowadays, I believe he still has the fire in his belly and a point to prove. 8/10

Soldado, last season he didn't get off to a good start, then his wife had a miscarriage, Sherwood came in and he and Ade had a good thing going until Sherwood changed to a 4-3-3 from a 4-4-2. The guy is good, excellent control on the ball just shy of confidence in front of goal, it can come and he can be great. 5.4/10

Attacking midfielders:
Lamela, we all know he has a point to prove and is showing it in pre-season, he has in the past shown the quality to demand a £30 million price tag and looks like he'll show us this season. 4/10

Lennon, I don't know about you guys but he has looked really full of energy, in the past we have seen him tracking back effectively and it is noted. However in pre-season Poch appears to have him buzzing around further up the pitch, using his pace to dart between players on the ball which will put pressure on them to make mistakes. While I still wouldn't start him he appears to (and I understand that it is early days) but a new lease of life under Poch with a new job in the team. 4.3/10

Holtby is fighting for a place in the team, he knows he isn't a dead cert to start, shown by his loan to Fulham, I think he is trying to impress us all that he actually has the quality we thought we'd bought when he came from Shalke. Now with Gylfi gone he'll get more of an opportunity. 4/10


Nacer Chadli, I never felt he got a fair run out last season, for a winger he's massive, hence why Tim decided to play him CM, in the right system he could be lethal, almost the opposite to Lamela over on the other side, so when/if they switched around in the game the full backs would be left in a right pickle. Still needs to show more but he has it in him. 5.6/10

The deep midfielders:
Sandro, has suffered from injury, I think he wants to show that he deserves his name the beast although I think we have forgotten just how good he was for us, myself included. I've gone back and seen him from a couple of seasons ago, working with the likes of Modric and Dembele he looked an amazingly useful player. However while my heart's choice is Sandro my head's is Capoue 6/10

Dembele, we all know he has plenty of talent, I want to see him against Shalke, an impressive player on his day but we know is day only comes about all too rarely. If he is able to get some sort of form going, pushing further up the pitch, spraying the ball out to Lamela and Lennon (or whoever is on the opposite wing) he could be a handful. I remember when he bossed the game, 3-1 against City when he was up against Yaya Toure. 6/10

Paulinho, had a miserable World Cup and an average first season, while some argue he flopped massively he contributed more goals than most and showed flashes of brilliance. Now he can either flop or become the player he bought, hopefully the latter although I'm unsure, I would start him because of the flair he has, some of his passing is exquisite and he runs his socks off, also brings more goals than Dembele. 6.4/10

Capoue, we never got to see much of Capoue last season, if you cast you mind back to his debut against Palace, he came on in the second half and by the end of the half had more interceptions than more than half the sides playing that weekend. He's huge, hence the 'Tank', I also believe he has more to give going forward than Sandro. We'd be very foolish to get rid of a player who finished second to Zlatan Ibrahimovic in Ligue 1 in their player rankings in 2012/13. 6/10

Defence
Kaboul showed us in 11/12 what he could do, and we all thought he was amazing, what has happened since? A huge injury and the loss of Ledley King, he is still very mobile and I would have him over Dawson any day. 5/10

Chiriches was actually very good for swathes last season, he picked up MOTM against United away and was phenomenal. Very skillful for a defender and error prone, but he is very Spursy, him with Kaboul are an amazing solid reserve pairing if we get Mussachio to partner Vertonghen. 6.5/10

Vertonghen also had a well bellow par season last time out, many of us thought he was saving himself for the World Cup and his performances in that competition suggest we were right in our assumption. If he plays like that or how he played in 2012/13 we have the makings of a very, very underrated (by other teams) defense. 6/10

Walker will want to hit the ground running, his injury was a big loss to the team and himself as it meant he missed out on the World Cup. Has all the attributes to make you get off your feat, him and Lamela could be deadly. 7.5/10

All the players listed have the ability to be 8/10s, all of them, well maybe not Lennon and Holtby, but the rest do. If they do become 8/10s, the join Eriksen and Lloris and we'd have a quality side. The fact that our squad is blessed with so much potential, so much untapped potential is something that makes me really look forward to the next season. Because of last year, everyone has written us off for this season, us included, 6/7th is where we expect we'll finish, but this is the position I was us to be in, dark horses, the outside choice. When other teams come we want them to be surprised about how good we are. Sure we're still expected to beat the lower teams but when the big clubs come, they need to be surprised as to how good we are.

Woolwich will likely come with a defence of Gibbs-Kosieclny-Mertesaker-Debuchy with a reserve of Chambers, Monreal... really is that it? Hmm, no Vermalen, no Djouru and they aren't linked with anyone.

Us: Davies-Vertonghen-Mussachio (hopefully) - Walker, with a reserve of Rose-Chiriches-Kaboul-Dier/Naughton

CM = Ramsey, Flameni vs Paulinho, Capoue pretty even due to Flameni's age and Paulinho's potential.

Sure they have an amazing attack, but a full firing Adebayor, backed up by Eriksen and Lamela, running on to flicks from Paulinho (All of this is based upon his flick to Soldado against Stoke and his goal against Cardiff)..... let us at 'em is all I say.
 
That should be the window.

I'm furious at our loser mentality. Sending exciting young British talent like Ryan Mason to teams above us in the table and using that money to pay for scraps in a lower division/unknown migrants from leagues in the EU… When will we stop being a feeder club?
 
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First team with squad players below them?
 
To help further explain Éperons Éperons list, I've made a little list to demonstrate the choices required.

You don't have to choose 25 players in total, nor does anything have to happen with the over 21's you don't pick, you just can only make a matchday squad from players you've picked in your (upto) 25 man squad or the U21's list:

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I've also added in some rough positions, just to show the cover here and there. Bear in mind Kane, Pritchard and Bentaleb are mixed in with a load of Academy players in the U21 list.

If anyone wants to make a selection based on these lists, it'd be cool to hear what you'd do.

I think we'd be a bit silly to substitute experience for youth, so if any of our HG first team'ers leave, I'd like to see them replaced like for like as to fully utilise our HG spaces.
 
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Yeah why isn't Ceballos on the Europa roster? The way Lennon and Townsend are playing, you would think he could see some solid playing time.

I would hope that Ceballos and Mason are going to play this season. If not it's a huge disservice to them.
No Ceballos in the Europa League squad because we had to include Dier/Davies in List A (since they've not been with us for two years).
 
So with the season fast approaching I thought I’d finally sign up to a forum and give my views on the current squad, below are my first eleven with my thoughts on the current players and soon to follow will be my breakdown on our second string side along with my thoughts on if we need to strengthen and who needs to be moved on, I hope you enjoy, feedback and thoughts are welcome!

First Eleven
Goalkeeper - Hugo Lloris

Not a lot be said on our number one, without doubt one of the best goalkeepers in Europe and at 28 years of age, being a goalkeeper his best years are most likely to still be ahead of him. Not only has he been a huge success at the Lane but is now one of the most suited keepers to our way of playing, with Pochettinos high energy and high pressing game starting to come through, a sweeper keeper is very much the order of the day, and there are really not many better sweeper keepers in world football than Hugo, obviously the toughest task will be keeping hold onto the Frenchman, but with talks of him being handing the captaincy hopefully this will help persuade him to stay put.

Right Back - Kyle Walker

I have placed Walker in my first eleven, which I know will be a bit controversial, with others likely to go for Tripper or even Yedlin. However I feel Kyle gets a lot of undeserved criticism and now finds himself a very underrated player. What I look for in fullbacks are of course someone who can defend, but also someone with energy, pace and who can attack down the flank time after time. I feel with Walker he never lets you down going forward, he’s quick can beat a fullback easily and will always give you an attacking option down the right hand side and even brings an eye for goal to side with his free kicks and long strikes. Yes sometimes his defensive skills lack slightly but I really don’t believe he’s a bad defensively as people make out, he’s only 25 a full England international, and a player that loves the club, I would start him as my first choice this season and also hope the signing of Kieran Trippier will take his game to the next level.

Left Back - Danny Rose

I was really not a fan of Danny Rose before last season, I felt that he needed replacing and I feel many others also felt the same, which Is why I feel Ben Davies was signed. However last season he was without doubt one of our best players, the transformation was immense, his game has come on leaps and bounds and he would now be one of my first names down on the team sheet. I feel he deserves more recognition with the National side with players like Kieran Gibbs and Ryan Bertrand often being preferred to Danny, which I do not agree with. Danny, like Kyle Walker is now 25 and will now be moving into his peak years as a player and being home grown local lad I see him nailing down the left back role for many years to come.

Centre Back - Jan Vertonghen

We all know how good Jan can be on his day, one of Europe’s best defenders. Yet these days have been a bit hit and miss over the past two seasons. His first season with the club was fantastic, cementing himself a place in the Premier league team of the year. I really feel this season we will again see the best of Vertonghen, I feel the problem in the past has been the constant switch in partners whether it be Dawson, Fazio, Chiriches, Dier or Kaboul. Now with the arrival of close friend and fellow countryman Toby Alderweireld we could well be looking at a very formidable partnership, with Jan happy again we should therefore see some of his best displays again, the displays that previously had him ranked as one of the best in Europe.

Centre Back Toby Alderweireld

Hopefully the answer to our defensive frailties. As mentioned beforehand I believe Toby and Jan can really strike up a very strong pairing between the two of them, being friends and countryman I can see them really hitting up a good understanding. Alderweireld was a key factor in Southamptons superb defensive record last season, conceding the second fewest goals only behind champions Chelsea. The season before this he helped Atletico win the La Liga title along with reaching the Champions League final. Again Toby is just coming into his prime at 26 years old and I believe he could be an inspired signing by Poch.

Centre Mid - Nabil Bentaleb

When Nabil first burst on to the scene I was very uninspired and frustrated that the likes of Paulinho, Sandro and Dembele where being left out for the young Algerian. However the transformation last season was fantastic and he really has now developed into one of our best players and has to be considered as one of the leagues most exciting youngsters. His playing style suits our system down to the ground, full of energy, hard in the tackle but at the same time composed on the ball. With him being just 20yrs old I feel that he will have one of our central midfield positions nailed down for many years to come and has all the ingredients to become a real Spurs legend.

Centre Mid - Ryan Mason

I don’t think anybody could have predicted the rise to fame of Ryan Mason last season, five loan spells and pretty much written off by managers and fans alike, until a wonder goal in the Carling Cup which was followed up by starting his first premier league game for Spurs, which happened to be away to Woolwich. Mason never looked back and went on to win his first England cap in what was an amazing season for the local lad. I feel Mason and Bentaleb can really push on from what where some really encouraging signs last season, both guys are full of passion and enthusiasm and I think Mason’s technical attributes are underrated by many. With his first season of Premier League football behind him, the sky’s the limit now for the 24 year old.

Left Wing - Nacer Chadli

To be honest I thought Chadli was a poor signing at first, yet more of the Gareth Bale money wasted. Yet as seemed to be the case for many last season, Chadli has really started to change peoples opinions on him. Yet another of our Belgian contingent, Nacer is starting to become a real threat cutting in from the right hand side bagging a respectable 13 goals last season. Chadli likes to take on people is dangerous striking from distance and also in the air arriving at the far post. In an ideal world Nacer will hopefully really push on this coming season and add yet more goals and assists to his growing tally.

Right Wing - Erik Lamela

Our record signing, his first season was injury hit, then many expected a lot last season with him linking up with his fellow countryman Pochettino, we saw flashes of brilliance yet at times we were frustrated. I do however feel myself that the good times outwayed the disappointing times last season, finishing up with the most assists and a five goal return. I’m hoping, as we all are that this could be the season for Erik, it certainly is make or break for the Argentinean international, but at just 23 years old if he can take off like many pundits suggested a few season back we could have a real gem on our hands!

Attacking Mid - Christian Eriksen

Arguably our most successful signing in the last few seasons and without doubt the best of the magnificent seven! The little Dane has gone from strength to strength bagging twelve goals last season. A real dead ball specialist and not only an eye for a goal but an eye for a pass, along with that comfortable with both feet, composed and dangerous running with ball. He also looks to be happy and content at the Lane and being only 23 yeards old, we have many more years for him to improve and dazzle us.

Centre Forward - Harry Kane

Maybe even a bigger transformation than Ryan Mason, and that’s saying something! After a few seasons of lacking a real goal threat Kane landed, and certainly landed with a bang! A breakthrough season in which he hit 31 goals for Spurs, a debut goal for his country and PFA young player of the season award, if Carlsberg done debut seasons, well they’d struggle to top that! Sceptics are claiming it may be a flash in the pan whilst others are saying that’ll he’ll be off to United or Madrid. However I see him staying with us for many more years to come and hopefully he can go on to have another season to rival his first with us, at only 22 we could have a centre forward for the next ten years at the club!
 
Actually, looking at it again, it's just Dembele. I missed Eriksen just because I couldn't get my head around attempting to place him at Right Wing.

You pessimistic fuck, Christian has the potential to be the next Lennon if he gets his head down (and never, ever lifts his head again).
 
My Opinion on 1st Team
SORRY FOR SPELLING
GK - LORRIS
CB - VERTONGHEN
CB - ALDERWIRIELD
LWB - ROSE
RWB - WALKER
CDM - DIER
CDM - WANYAMA
CAM - ALLI
LM - LAMELA
RM - ERIKSEN
ST - KANE
ST - JANSSEN

I'm liking the 4-5-2 formation...
We'll walk the league with that First Team XII on the pitch!
 
Don't care what anyone says if this team clicks we are serious players to be reckoned with:

Lloris
Walker
Alderweireld
Wimmer
Rose
Wanyama
Dembele
Lamela
Eriksen
Sissoko
Kane

Subs
Vorm
Vertonghen
Dier
Nkoudou
Alli
Son
Janssen

Great big beasts to fear, a squad that keeps options open, people on their toes and formation mix ups and a whole host of different styles. Watch out for us this year, we just need to keep pace whilst the others pick up their points.

Have faith, we look far stronger now than 24 hours ago
 
Don't think I saw it mentioned on the forum either (may have missed it!) but he did score a worldie a couple of months back..


Although I didn't realise he was already 24.. Maybe a tad old for 'potential'
 
Well, we can add as many players as we like, but come Sept. 1, there will be a winnowing. I don't know if we can hide players who are 21+ in the U21/reserves league, though. I suspect not. Maybe WindyCOYS WindyCOYS knows for certain.

I bring that up since the likes of Mason and Khumalo are listed under "reserves" on TOS, but they were also out on loan last season.

No need to 'hide' them - you can legitimately have them, they just can't play in the Premier League. They'd be able to play in the cups.

Clubs are only allowed to field three outfield players over the age of 21, plus the goalkeeper is also permitted to be over 21. So you can potentially have four over-21 players in the Under-21s.
 
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