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Éperons said:The DoF is like communism. Just because previous, inferior implementations failed doesn't mean the theory is bad.
When did communism work in practice?
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Éperons said:The DoF is like communism. Just because previous, inferior implementations failed doesn't mean the theory is bad.
Right. I think the suggestion on the pod of the manager's choosing the DoF was bizarre in the extreme. It would be like the Prime Minister (in France) choosing the President. It's just backward on the face of it.WindyCOYS said:Key is communication/blending the right personalities.
This is the exact opposite of how I see it (as noted above).spooky said:New man in must be the lead, not the DoF.
Exactly. This is precisely the system in place in Major League Baseball. It's not perfect, and it has been the case that managers bristle at being told that they have to play player x more and player y less, but that's the idea. The GM/DoF tries to fill in gaps in the system as a whole, from the academy (single-A) to the starting XI (MLB).spooky said:So basically the DoF signs the players for the coach to manage?
Right. I don't think it's an easy system, but, to me, it makes more sense than the current system, where the manager not only has quotidian concerns (picking the starting XI) but also larger, long-term concerns (making sure the academy is well-stocked). And if the latter concerns are outside of Harry's concern (that is, they're Levy's), then we're already, again, and we're in agreement on this, working with a DoF system, where Levy's the DoF.spooky said:Sorry, you're asking for something that's only possible if the DoF knows who to appoint as coach and that it's certain for them to get on. How many times did it fail at Spurs and Levy admitted as much. Most of the managers we've been linked with would not accept such a position. And if it falls back to the DoF presenting possible targets for the manager to select then what exactly is that system called? Is it a DoF or a chief scout or a go-between?
I think the sport, like everything, is moving toward greater specialisation while also growing bigger and bigger.Thelonious said:I don't think the DoF situation is one is an absolute necessity to keep up with the rest of Europe. The fact that it's being suggested that England is somehow backwards in this is laughable.
spooky said:So basically the DoF signs the players for the coach to manage?
Yes, this is important, but I think it's also not a discussion of equals. I've never worked in business, but I imagine good managers ask their teams what they need, and they work with their teams to provide their needs. But the manager (DoF in this example) is ultimately in charge, and she may provide her team with things the team thinks it doesn't need, trading on her knowledge of the larger strategy of the company as a whole and her own experience. Her decisions might not always be the best, nor might they always work out, but they will be hers.WindyCOYS said:In collaboration IMO.
Éperons said:But the manager (DoF in this example) is ultimately in charge, and she may provide her team with things the team thinks it doesn't need, trading on her knowledge of the larger strategy of the company as a whole and her own experience. Her decisions might not always be the best, nor might they always work out, but they will be hers.
WindyCOYS said:spooky said:So basically the DoF signs the players for the coach to manage?
In collaboration IMO.
They discuss - they come up with the sorts of players that would improve the team (I'd expect the DoF to be doing a lot of the scouting as the coach will be too busy doing all that tactical shit - LOLHARRYLOL), and the DoF goes out and gets the guy.
#DreamWorld.