Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham; Sunday 18th October; 16:30

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Although yesterday was more of a capitulation, I think the Newcastle result was the one that worried me more.

Against Newcastle, we didn't take our chances and, as so often happens in football, were punished for it - that will definitely happen again if we're so wasteful in front of goal.

Winning 3-0 with 8 minutes to go and somehow throwing the game away is a freak occurrence.

But the fact remains that we have dropped four points that should never have been dropped from the final kick of our last two home games.

At the end of the season I'll be adding those points onto our final tally to see what might have been.
 
I'm very surprised; as a Mourinho coached team that with 3 minutes to go we didn't run down the clock with timewasting tactics (fake injury, take forever to take goal kick, run balls into the corner). Its not bloody rocket science and there seems to be some very thick players in our squad!!
 
The wife came and poked her head in when we went 3-0 up to ask how it was going, I said "ok", she said "really but you're 3 up". I said "good goals but we aren't zipping the ball about, too many player look off their game"

I thought early on Sissoko looked out of his depth (first time in a while) and apart from the goals we looked off our game, the goals and movement were excellent but the team looked jaded IMHO.

I think the spammers sensed that and kept the intensity up. Once Tanguy went off we lost the creative spark in the middle and it was uphill from there. Lamella was probably needed in this game. Looked too early for Bale, he was blowing early on, whilst we were dying to see him i'm not sure it was the right decision.
 
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Can you imagine how many KUMB lurkers have been reading this thread?

Hear it from me you homeless gypsies, you've been sold down the river by Brady and the porn brothers and once you are relegated your stadium is going to be even more hilarious.

Start your phoenix club now and save time.
 
SpursUltra said:
Heard about a dad of a boy my sons age dying this weekend, about 1hr before the game started on Sunday, having spent some time myself at the hospital having a few tests done last week it him home.

Believe you me that will give you some perspective about stuff to care about. Not this bunch of millionaire dickheads anyway. They give me joy they give me pain. But ultimately not too important in the grand scheme of things.

Woke up happy to be healthy and starting another working week. Laughing at how Spurs remain Spurs. Fucking twats.

Been here before many times. And I’m expecting/hoping to be here again for many more.


It’s only a game.
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Absolutely, but it's hard, you feel a fraud if it doesn't get you down but are an arsehole to the family if you let the loss ruin your weekend. I'm not sure where the middle ground is. I love Spurs but it can make or break my weekend, it's all or nothing...

I've had a couple of incidents that put football into perspective but they subside and you end up getting drawn back in pretty quickly. Like most addictions you probably have to cut it to beat it.
 
MindBlown said:
Woke up early excited for a new week then immediately the 3-3 crossed my mind. It felt as if someone stuck a knife on my chest.

This might take a while to get over it, up there with CL final and 7-2 drubbing.
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couldn't wait for this game, hate this lot more than any other club. They wont ever achieve anything but it's a big disappointment. They were lucky with their final goal but the writing was on the wall
 
We were complacent, it's not that complicated. We got carried away after the United game and thought that West Ham would give up at 3-0 when in reality they played with a good intensity all game. That Harry Kane had to block a certain goal in our own penalty box before HT was a big warning.

When they did eventually score we had already checked out mentally, it was all about Harry's hat trick or Bale's debut goal by that point. We didn't take the game seriously late on and were deservedly punished. The players showed their weak mentality once again, crystallised by Sissoko failing to even jump when the ball came in for Balbuena's goal. All he had to do was jump and the three points would have been ours.
 
1882 said:
Good spot....
I think we thought the game was won after 16 minutes....

It's like the players forgot they were playing for Spursy....

BIG mistake!
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Lots of jogging, thinking about the next one rather than the game in hand. Should have looked for this to improved our goal difference and stayed focused. Lots of silly passes given away in the first half, needed a rocket up our arse at half time and the score masked so very sloppy play. Fuck the score they were playing poorly, except Kane and one or two others.
 
Frustrating, but I did think the decision making was terrible by Spurs in the second half.

Kane desperately trying for the hattrick instead of playing for the teams sake, Bale coming on and clearly lacking in any sort of match fitness, a defence who couldn't keep the ball under pressure and Aurier who's tracking back was woeful at 3-0 up.

Credit to West Ham though, they had a belief and kept to it (albeit with a lot of fortune IMO).

The only upside is hopefully this serves as a proper lesson that the job isn't done until the final whistle and we can't afford to make these mistakes again if we're looking to actually win something.
 
DSanditon said:
Although yesterday was more of a capitulation, I think the Newcastle result was the one that worried me more.

Against Newcastle, we didn't take our chances and, as so often happens in football, were punished for it - that will definitely happen again if we're so wasteful in front of goal.

Winning 3-0 with 8 minutes to go and somehow throwing the game away is a freak occurrence.

But the fact remains that we have dropped four points that should never have been dropped from the final kick of our last two home games.

At the end of the season I'll be adding those points onto our final tally to see what might have been.
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I don't think it matters what team or manager we have this mentality and attitude is still present and holds us back from achieving anything.
Some of the results went our way the weekend but as usual when pressure is on the team folds.
 
For better or worse said:
Absolutely, but it's hard, you feel a fraud if it doesn't get you down but are an arsehole to the family if you let the loss ruin your weekend. I'm not sure where the middle ground is. I love Spurs but it can make or break my weekend, it's all or nothing...

I've had a couple of incidents that put football into perspective but they subside and you end up getting drawn back in pretty quickly. Like most addictions you probably have to cut it to beat it.
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Couldn't agree more....
Life is the most important thing, of course...
But annoyingly, football has an annoying habit of getting in the way of life occasionally...

We beat Wigan 9-1 on the day of my Dad's Stone Setting (it's a Jewish thing!!)
It didn't bring him back, but it sure did help alleviate the pain on the day somewhat!

Go figure.... football eh?
 
A lot was made of PHE being the answer. I never brought it, he can be part of the answer but its also clear we need another aggressive destroyer added and what was weird to me was jose tactically odd choices. He clearly personally loves Moura but when we conceded from a set peice we had Vinci on the bench who is renowned for hold up play and defending from the front odd odd day. I'm still mad.
 
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The wife came and poked her head in when we went 3-0 up to ask how it was going, I said "ok", she said "really but you're 3 up". I said "good goals but we aren't zipping the ball about, too many player look off their game"

I thought early on Sissoko looked out of his depth (first time in a while) and apart from the goals we looked off our game, the goals and movement were excellent but the team looked jaded IMHO.

I think the spammers sensed that and kept the intensity up. Once Tanguy went off we lost the creative spark in the middle and it was uphill from there. Lamella was probably needed in this game. Looked too early for Bale, he was blowing early on, whilst we were dying to see him i'm not sure it was the right decision.
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No offence to your Wife, but that WAY too much technical information to impart....

My Wife came in at half time (blatant 'I have a wife post) and asked how it was going.... "3-0 but let's see how It is at full time"
Then the Crane came!!!

My fault!
 
1882 said:
Couldn't agree more....
Life is the most important thing, of course...
But annoyingly, football has an annoying habit of getting in the way of life occasionally...

We beat Wigan 9-1 on the day of my Dad's Stone Setting (it's a Jewish thing!!)
It didn't bring him back, but it sure did help alleviate the pain on the day somewhat!

Go figure.... football eh?
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My Dad's last few days in hospital were hard, he used to watch the ground development news hourly, on visiting I mentioned Tottenham and he literally couldn't give a damn. It was at that point that I realised both of us had wasted too much time on them and it really wasn't as important as the family.

We get drawn back in easily. I was having a great weekend up until that point but post match I could tell my attitude had changed. Not nice for those around me, that's what non-football fans don't get and where they are lucky.

Who would want to spend their entire life riding a roller-coaster... however much you like them?
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
A lot was made of PHE being the answer. I never brought it, he can be part of the answer but its also clear we need another aggressive destroyer added and what was weird to me was jose tactically odd choices. He clearly personally loves Moura but when we conceded from a set peice we had Vinci on the bench who is renowned for hold up play and defending from the front odd odd day. I'm still mad.
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The players we had on the pitch should have been able to see out the game, we cannot be having a go at Mourinho's selection. The mindset of the players was not tough enough.

A fresh Lucas came on but where was his intensity to defend when he let the crosser in behind him for the second goal? The second half became a nice day out rather than a Premier League match. That's why we shat the bed.
 
As said Son and Ndombele going off to be rested absolutely fucked us. There was a dramatic shift from in complete control to disjointed and exposed.

Does anyone think if Lo Celso had been able to come on instead of Winks we would've conceded 3 in ten minutes? Winks and Sanchez must be getting close to the door.
 
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