What is going wrong??

[skywalker68]

Fucking genius love it

 

[Airfixx]

as a group of fans I think we would have taken it on the chin... We know rebuilding is sometimes necessary and upsets things. I for one would be ok with a mid-table season if I felt we were moving in the right direction but it's the constant poor squad choices, formations and tactical nativity that is the concern...

In saying what I did, I had competetive pressure, player power/entitlement and such in mind, but yeh, entirely reasonable on your part...

 

[skywalker68]

We did too well too soon. Victims of our own success.

I believe the infrastructure ENIC/Levy are building will benefit Spurs in the long run.
State of the art Stadium - check
State of the art facilities - check
Stadium used for NFL gives another source of income - check
Efforts to expand the brand globally - in progress
Gradually raising player wages - check
Spending more in the transfer market - signs of progress

Unless the team is bough by some Saudi prince, you have to gradually become a super club. it doesn't happen overnight and it doesn't happen without set backs.

Wasn't a case of too well too soon under ENIC we have never been on a fast path it has always been a slow slog, part of the problem was not investing in the team for two windows that was a terrible oversight which has in part set us back.

 

[Airfixx]

Not sure it does unless the manager them-self is able to morph into different versions. Guardiola has know this for a while. Klopp learnt the lesson after 7 years. Modern, high profile managers have a shelf life which is why Ferguson is perceived as amazing because he would swap out key players when he thought they were getting complacent.

That is not just magic sauce. You need to have a big budget and an infrastructure to attract the right players to do that. We don't have that. Not the failure of Poch or Levy to implement in the same way.

But absolutely the fault of both not to recognise the inevitable. Poch more than Levy in my view but there's no clear lines here.

I tend to agree.

Fergie is the shining example of having what it takes to rebuild and rebuild over a longer time-frame, but it seems even he began to realise the dynamic between players & coach was changing... Feels like a different era now. The prevalent short-termism in question (look at Chelsea & RM fer feck's sake!) transcends the game too.

 

[Airfixx]

Better than a tiny penis and circle of friends isn't it chuckles.

Next level banter there..... Real grown up stuff.

Dick jokes and 'dissagrees' - What a scholar!

 

[VoiceOfThePoshSeats]

I haven't seen anywhere that profits from the stadium will be re-invested into the Football Team.
Doesn't sound like something Levy would do.

Theres plenty of extra money from the football side

 

[Jimmy Greaves]

I've got no idea what point you're trying to make there, which is a fact, not an opinion.
So I imagine you'll welcome that.

Can we now get back to the original and relevant point which is: what is going wrong with this team?

It peaked in the C/L Final...... realized it wasn't up to scratch .... and gave up

 

[Gatsby]

You think we’re in a bad state? The Napoli owner is trying to sue the Napoli players and manager!

Saying that, if Poch does go I’d take Ancelotti and Lozano if they want out! Koulibaly and Mertens as well!