I wouldn't take Bamford now because I've not watched Leeds at all this season, so I would literally only be going off of his goals scored, and I'd always be wary of a striker moving up from the championship and having 1 good season in front of goal, it seems to happen fairly often. I'm not bothered enough to check but I'm also not sure his numbers are even enough to make me take much notice anyhow.
So you've not seen Bamford but know you wouldn't take him because...reasons and it suits the point you are trying to make? fair enough.
I'm not pitting Janssen against Batshuayi, so projections are irrelevant,
Really? Projections are literally the basis of making these decisions as to which player you'd prefer. And they are based on skillset and actual play. Weird you'd want to discount the very idea of them. You pick a player on what you think they'd do for you going forward not solely base on what they've done. We just did that with a manager and how'd that work out for us? If we had looked at what he had to offer going forward and not all his 'winning' in the past we might not have made that choice.
And beyond that these two players were being evaluated against one another so comparing and projecting is totally relevant.
And you didn't answer my question so I will ask again, which did you want?
though a good record in France vs a good record in Holland is hardly a gaping chasm in quality that suggests there was a clear superior.
Do you watch Ligue 1? I do and I would suggest that this statement of your is wide of the mark. And beyond that Bats is still in the PL and Janssen is making tortillas.
What I am saying is that you can't point to having wanted to sign Batshuayi as proof of a good eye for talent.
And what I am saying is that wanting Bats THEN over Janssen THEN is supportive of him preferring a better player to the player that Poch was being castigated for...and that decision did not utilize the benefit of hindsight that you are luxuriating in at this moment.
Again, which did you want back then?
That's batshit mental, since then he has done nothing to suggest we missed out.
What is batshit mental is you propping up this strawman to knock down. Who has said anything about "we missed out" besides you right here? No one did so let's just drop this point.
You can point to his 10 games for irtm if you like, if that's proof for you then good for you, I doubt it's enough for many.
What's this got to do with anything? Again, this debate is about 4 or 5 seasons ago and any data since that point is tangential to the point at hand. The debate was which player AT THAT TIME would become the better player for us.
If you respond feel free to
directly address my points as I have for yours. I know they can be particularly inconvenient to the perspective you are trying to hold but that's whats going to get us to resolution.