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Tottenham Hotspur host Manchester United on Sunday 28th December 2014 (KO 12:00) in the 19th round of matches in the 2014-15 season.
It will be the 186th meeting between the two clubs who were the "glamour teams" of the 1960s.

Spurs come into the match in 7th place on 30 points with United in 3rd place on 35 points.

Tottenham Hotspur's first meeting with Manchester United came in the old 1st round (today's 3rd round) of the FA Cup in January 1899 when United were known as Newton Heath. The match was drawn 1-1 at Northumberland Park, but Spurs won the replay 5-3 at Bank Street in Clayton, Manchester.

A decade later the two clubs met for the first time in a Football League match with United drawing 2-2 at White Hart Lane in the First Division.

The reverse fixture at Old Trafford was easilly won by United 5-0.

Tottenham's first League win over United came in November 1911 2-1 at Old Trafford.

Both clubs met for four seasons in the Second Division during the 1930s.

Since the start of football after WW2, all League meetings have taken place in the Top Flight of the English League system.

In 1952, both clubs toured North America and played two exhibition matches with Spurs winning 5-0 in Toronto, Canada and 7-1 in New York, USA.

The clubs were drawn together in the 1963-64 European Cup Winners' Cup with Spurs winning 2-0 at the Lane and United winning 4-1 at Old Trafford.

Old Trafford was the venue for the 1967 FA Charity Shield with League Champions United and FA Cup Winners Spurs drawing 3-3 in a game most remembered for goalkeeper Pat Jennings' long-range goal. The Charity Shield was shared.

August 1979 saw the clubs meet for the first time in the Football League Cup and Glenn Hoddle's magnificent volly was the winning goal in a 2-1 Spurs victory at White Hart Lane. United went on to win the second leg at Old Trafford 3-1.

In June 1983, the clubs played two matches in Swaziland, Southern Africa, resulting in a win each. Prior to this season, Spurs last win at Old Trafford came in December 1989 thanks to a Gary Lineker goal.

The clubs have only ever met in one Domestic Cup Final - the 2009 Football League (Carling) Cup Final at Wembley, which ended in a 0-0 draw after extra time. United won the subsequent penalty shoot-out.

Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur were founder members of the Premier League in 1992-93 and are two of the seven clubs who have been ever-present up to the 2013-14 season - Woolwich, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton and Liverpool being the other five.The fixtures during season 2010-11 saw United win 2-0 at Old Trafford in October while the reverse match at White Hart Lane ended in a 0-0 draw.

2010-11 was the first season when both Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur competed together in the UEFA Champions League. Both clubs won their respective Group Stages and progressed to the Knock-Out Phase. Spurs eventually went out to Real Madrid in the Quarter Finals while Manchester United made it to the Final, only to lose to Barcelona.

The away 2011-12 fixture at Old Trafford in August resulted in a 3-0 win for United with goals from Danny Welbeck, who headed in Tom Cleverley's cross just after 60 minutes and he then produced a wonderful instinctive flick to set up a second for Anderson. Wayne Rooney scored with a pinpoint late header from Ryan Giggs's centre.

The game at White Hart Lane in March 2012 was won by United 3-1. Wayne Rooney scored on the stroke of half-time to put the visitors ahead at the break. Further goals were added with a brace from Ashely Young before Jermain Defoe got one back for Spurs with three minutes remaining.

Last season's fixture at Old Trafford resulted in an historic 3-2 win for Tottenham - their first in the League at Old Trafford in 23 years. Jan Vertonghen's second minute strike was deflected-in off Jonny Evans and Gareth Bale added a second goal after 32 minutes. United hit back through Luis Nani after 51 minutes but Spurs restored their two goal cushion a minute later with a Clint Dempsey goal. Shinji Kagawa scored United's second goal a minute later and Spurs survived the pressure for a United equaliser to come away with three very well earned points.

Former Manchester United defender Zeki Fryers joined Spurs in January 2013 from Standard Liege in Belgium.The match at White Hart Lane in January 2013 resulted in a 1-1 draw. Robin van Persie put United ahead on 25 minutes but an injury-time goal from Clint Dempsey meant the points were shared. United went on to win the Premier League Title and Sir Alex Ferguson resigned at the end of the season.

Kyle Walker put Spurs ahead after 18 minutes in the 2013-14 game at White Hart Lane in December but Wayne Rooney equalised in the 32nd minute.
Sandro's 54th minute goal was cancelled out by a Wayne Rooney penalty three minutes later for a final score of 2-2. Tottenham's good recent form against United continued on New Year's Day 2014 at Old Trafford with a 2-1 win. Emmanuel Adebayor put Spurs 1-0 up after 34 minutes and Chrisian Eriksen doubled the lead after 66 minutes. Danny Welbeck immediately pulled a goal back for United but Tottenham came away with all three points.

Overall, United have a very good record over Spurs with 86 wins to 51 with 48 of the 185 matches played so far drawn. United are due to host Spurs at Old Trafford in the Premier League on 14th March 2015.


Jamie Attwell
David Beckham (United player, Spurs trainee)
Dimitar Berbatov
Bill Berry
Alan Brazil
Jimmy Brown
Fraizer Campbell
Michael Carrick
Garth Crooks
Harry Erentz
Quinton Fortune
Zeki Fryers
Terry Gibson

Tommy Gipps
Greoge Graham (United player, Spurs manager)
Jack Hall
Stewart Houston (United player, Spurs asst. manager)
David Gwilan Jones
Joe Jordan (United player, Spurs coach)
Cyril Knowles
Chris McGrath
James McNaught
Fred Milnes
Louis Saha
Teddy Sheringham


 
fuck they have some good attacking players, but apart from De Gea they can be a shambles at the back.
Need Kane to get an early goal again, put them on the back foot a bit, get the crowd into behind the team and then dictate the game to them in the midfield
 
Hoping that today we might have just overlooked Leicester a little bit with an eye on this fixture. A win would be absolutely massive. We can definitely put at least two past United, it's just a question if we can limit them to two on the other end. Considering the state of both of our defensive midfields, I'm thinking this will be a massively open game.

[formation=4231, Lloris, Walker, Fazio, Vertongthen, Davies, Mason, Bentaleb, Lamela, Eriksen, Chadli, Kane][/formation]

Could definitely change the Bentaleb and Mason pairing but with who? Stambouli was really poor and Dembele didn't even make the bench. I'd probably like to see Dembele play but him not being on the bench threw me off and now I'm not sure I expect that to be an option.
 
They haven't been us at ours for the last two seasons and we have done them twice at theirs.
Why shouldn't we get a result? Only a Welbeck trademark dive got them a draw last time out at ours.
Mason is ideal for this game. They play with Mata off of Rooney and V Persie, Carrick, Falcao Young and in Valencia across the middles and Jones, McNair and Evans at the back.
Newcastle found loads of space between them today at the back. We can do the same.

We will have to work really hard as a team. If we play like we did v Everton, we will get something.

We will just have to battle hard in the middle and stop Valencia/young getting forward. So, I'd think Davies in for Rose and Lennon in for Chadli.
Another thing slightly concerning is the middle. I'd play Dembele and Mason there. Dembele has the physical presence and tackling ability that Nabil doesn't. However, not the work rate. They have to be put under pressure in the middle to stop them playing.
[formation=4231, lloris, Walker, Fazio, Vertonghen, Davies, Dembele, Mason, Lamela, Eriksen, Lennon, Kane][/formation]
Somehow I feel MP may start this with 2 up front though. bringing Eriksen to the left.

Come on, we have not lost to this lot for 2 seasons. They are beatable, and we can beat them.
 
I fear 1-3

We have had their number for a while by our standards and they're not great but, just concerned we give too many chances away that they will take, having world-class goal scorers finding form.

To win I think we'll have to score 3-4
 
Would be very happy with 2 points out of the next 2 games. Keep the unbeaten streak going whilst this eternal settling in takes further shape. Yesterday was not pretty at all on the eye from what I've just watched. We just look scared to fuckin death in the league most of the time but keep limping along & scraping points. I am just glad all those who went from on here seem to have got home safely in this shite weather. We really do need to put in a couple of big performances to get anything else over the xmas period.
 
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