This whole debate has absolutely fuck all to do with that.
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It is patronizing to think lower league clubs will suffer. I've been beaten unconscious by lower league fans. What are they going to do? Not kick my face in because their team went out of the league? Lose their passion for the game?
They can look after themselves.
No I didn't.
Unless their clubs cease to exist due to the introduction of another division, meaning a higher tree to climb and inevitably less money in their current divisions. Not to mention many other knock on effects.
We have a B team. The U-21's. The point you seem to be missing is, this isn't about Premier League teams, and it's not about the England national team. It's about the teams that battle to survive every financial year, scraping by one way or another. This could have a detrimental effect on many of those.
And I've never said I didn't want to be in Europa. I love the competition. But it's not even been mentioned in this thread. Not like you to go off on a tangent!!!
What a selfish point of view. As long as we have another team to watch, fuck everyone else. It's not patronising to suggest this could have a negative effect on lower league football. It's realistic, and common sense. Have you even listened to
Bumchin
's argument, from someone at the bottom of the pile? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...
Fans of lower league clubs beat people up - FINANCIAL WOES SOLVED!!
#genius
Don't worry mate I'm sure there's a few Spurs fans that would do the same...
mad how i've been to my fair share of 1882 games watching the youth players then isn't it. i'm more than willing to go and watch them. just wouldn't ever go and see them in the paint trophy or this b-league.
The Champions League is screwing the PL and the PL is screwing lower league and non-league football.
The Sky and billionaire owners' club cartel has got us all steamed up about getting 4th place. That can't be right surely? Aim to win the league and either succeed or fail gloriously. That's what makes it fun not the tension of trying to scrape 4th place.
Having heard from a PL youth team manager about how the bigger (richer) clubs nick the youth that the smaller clubs have scouted by offering the player a high salary and giving their parents highly paid "jobs" I'm pretty sickened by modern football.
I wouldn't mind so much if the billionaire clubs were gathering up youth players to play them. It's often just to stop others getting them.
I know that the richer clubs have always taken from the poorer (and we've been guilty of this) but there used to be food on everyone's table. Not now.
This B team bollocks is just another screw over.
Sorry if I've ranted.
The Sky and billionaire owners' club cartel has got us all steamed up about getting 4th place. That can't be right surely? Aim to win the league and either succeed or fail gloriously. That's what makes it fun not the tension of trying to scrape 4th place.
Having heard from a PL youth team manager about how the bigger (richer) clubs nick the youth that the smaller clubs have scouted by offering the player a high salary and giving their parents highly paid "jobs" I'm pretty sickened by modern football.
I wouldn't mind so much if the billionaire clubs were gathering up youth players to play them. It's often just to stop others getting them.
I know that the richer clubs have always taken from the poorer (and we've been guilty of this) but there used to be food on everyone's table. Not now.
This B team bollocks is just another screw over.
Sorry if I've ranted.
Thank you for sharing..............
Lie down on this couch and tell me about your childhood
If this thread is anything to go by they will be too busy telling everyone how they are saving grass roots football to actually have a go.
To think that a change in a league is going to stop kids loving the game and progressing through the ranks is ego IMO. What is it going to impact exactly? Are smaller town football fans going to be wiped from the earth because Spurs puts out a friken B team?
You can't keep football down. Its the international game. The league rules etc have chopped and changed for years. Not everything has to be a fucking protest. Esp something that means more Spurs competative runouts for the fringe players.
You have both over-simplified and over-complicated the issue in one post.
Bravo, sir.
OK Mr one liner. Like twitter all up in this bitch. Lets break it down. It's terrible because "money".
Money isn't going away in football, and neither are small clubs.
'Mr. One Liner'. I like that. Not quite the 'Six Million Dollar Man' but goddamit I'm not gonna turn down an nickname as badass as that.
Well, looks like we've accepted the invitation to this years EFL Checkatrade Trophy for our U21's. Personally I reckon it's a good thing for the club / youngsters. It will give them a chance of game time against lower league opposition. It might toughen them up a bit and broaden their experience rather than only being pitted against players of their own age, strength and ability. OK it may not be a particularly high pressure / meaningful match situation, but it'll give them another chance to show the management what they are capable of.
EFL Official Website Checkatrade Trophy: Invited under-21 teams confirmed for 2017/18
EFL Official Website Checkatrade Trophy: Invited under-21 teams confirmed for 2017/18
Sorry mate, can't agree. Top flight clubs shouldn't be in this competition in any capacity in my opinion, the whole point of it is to give 3rd and 4th Division teams a stab at glory and a massive day out at Wembley.
By all means have a higher profile knockout competition for the yoot but we shouldn't be hijacking one which has a long and proud history of its own and which is specifically designed for others
That's absolutely fair enough. But from a completely selfish Spurs point of view I think it's a good thing.
From a general, English football point of view, I'd agree. Its nonsense.
But to get our youngsters a taste of "proper league footy", It's a perfect scenario.
And I would imagine the vast majority of the posters in here (myself included) won't have heard of most of the lads that will get exposure to this level of football. So it's not really "Top Flight" players, even if they are attached to top flight clubs.
And who knows, we might even discover the next Dele playing for Port Vale!
Fingers crossed.
We're kinda doing to THIS competition what the CL has done to the Europa League by putting teams in it who shouldn't really be there...
Only difference is, at LEAST we're entering a team from the start of the competition... not one who got knocked out of, say, the FA Cup early!
It's a bit of a farce... and is probably the compromise to avoid doing what they do abroad (Juve & Barca spring to mind) and have 'B' teams in lower divisions... now that really WOULD signal the beginning of the end if we did it here!
I don't think we're far off seeing this and The League Cup amalgamating in the near future... with the Top OK teams opting out of the competition, UNLESS it's theircB team representing them.
Like the Europa/UEFA Cup, The League Cup is treated like an inconvenience anyway, unless you win it, (eh Man Utd?) Then it's the be-all and end-all of high level competition!
Like the Europa/UEFA Cup, The League Cup is treated like an inconvenience anyway, unless you win it, (eh Man Utd?) Then it's the be-all and end-all of high level competition!