I just don't see him being interested in us because of the state we are in. It's a massive rebuilding job, most likely no CL football next season and who knows what kind of budget Levy will make available for new signings. Allegri is at the stage of his career where he can walk into Real, Barca, Man City, Liverpool Bayern.
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I just don't see him being interested in us because of the state we are in. It's a massive rebuilding job, most likely no CL football next season and who knows what kind of budget Levy will make available for new signings. Allegri is at the stage of his career where he can walk into Real, Barca, Man City, Liverpool Bayern.
An attractive project with anyone who doesn’t have to rely on instant success.
If a manager backs his ability and has faith in his management skills, it’s one of the best jobs out there.
We have the best stadium, the best training facilities and have potential to be the top of the pile.
Too many managers want to take over an existing project with a club that is pretty much guaranteed success.
Going to Scotland was the best thing he could have done.
He took a step back to develop a winning mentality and credentials.
We can laugh about it being Scotland but he comes in with 9 titles in 3 years I think. He knows how to win now.
Which is why in my mind, we should not scoff at recruiting managers or players from the top clubs in the smaller leagues (Scotland, Portugal, Holland, Belgium). Yes it's not one of the big 5. But these guys will come from clubs that are regularly competing for titles or in Europe.
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I posted this a couple of posts previous to my post that you quoted.
We've NEVER given any manager what he needed for a title challenge and under ENIC NEVER will.
When Harry tried he was rebuffed, Poch has talked about it he was rebuffed too. The new man won't get want he wants, he will be given a partial funds and be told to get on with it our best players will leave because they know we aren't winning anything substantial.
Champions league final losers is as good as it's ever going to get.
Stadium and training facilities yes, great, but I think top managers look at how much money a club is willing to invest in new players.
That's why we can look forward to a Howe, Southgate, Potter level of manager. They would love to take over a project like ours with all the benefits you described.
Thank you for trying to restore some sanity around here, Devanteswing . Howe is a joke. Works under minimal pressure/expectations, no consistency, does not have a discernible style of play, his teams do not press in a coordinated manner, they leaked about 70 goddamn goals in the PL last season, pays big money for absolute crap. I am done with Levy if he hires him.
Thank you. Thank you. Managing England, especially in qualifiers, is like turning up for a Donkey Derby on Desert Orchid.
I think that your post does inadvertently point out the major problem I see at the club. The “project”. What does current version of that mean? what’s the objective ? a project should have a conclusion.
Whereas Tottenham projects tend to have no clear aim and then sort of refresh and morph into a new project, it’s all a bit odd. And frankly cheap
To break the cycle maybe it’s time to forget the project and go balls out to try to actually win - in that circumstances we need winners, and that does not to me suggest Howe, Southgate or (especially Potter) have the CV necessary to change anything. I’d argue Houghton deserved much more of a chance than any of them. Can you imagine Potter in charge of Spurs. Wow that’s depressing.
for me, all roads lead to Jose. I cannot argue against or about his “shit” brand of football but given what we see from Poch’s coaching, it’s no worse. the man is box office and a winner.
We must not let that Man U bollocks cloud anything. He won as much there as our club have in 28 years.
But as you rightly say, would a Jose or similar have any significant sums to spend on players ? And that’s what it all comes down to.
Managers who need to buy every top player don’t have confidence in their own ability.
It’s like saying I can’t build a team I need the best players available to do it for me.
There are many lazy managers who want it all and know full well they will be a success but there are also good managers who want a challenge and are not spoon fed.
Poch is the latter but unfortunately the project has hit a buffer. Something has broken down which can and often happens.
He improved Swansea. Walked out on Watford, sacked by Reading and Liverpool (where he was lucky to have Suarez and Coutinho but still finished 7th and 6th in 2 of his 3 complete seasons).
Just my opinion, I wouldn't want him - and many here are demanding a proven winner. To his credit, he has the best pitchside whistle I've ever heard !
Interesting that a few months back many though that quite literally the only step up was Klopp or Simeone.
And in some cases it was denied they’d even improve our football with this squad (lol)
Now, rather sensibly, I think people have calmed their opinions a little on that and can see that improving Poch won’t actually take much.
And in some cases it was denied they’d even improve our football with this squad (lol)
Now, rather sensibly, I think people have calmed their opinions a little on that and can see that improving Poch won’t actually take much.
I never said I want him at Spurs - simply noted he's an underrated manager
It also depends the stage of the managers career and what his ambitions are. Younger inexperienced managers won't mind doing it the hard way, building a team, an ethos, helping a club grow and progress. However if the manager is ambitious he will reach a point where to take the next step and challenge for trophies he will need to invest substantially in his team. Poch himself has come to that point. At Spurs he wants money to buy top players.
It's all relative. But yeah, worked better than now, despite having better raw materials to work with.
He made Mason an England International, when pre-Poch he'd been a Spurs reserve/fringe player, and post-Poch he was an average player for Hull. That kind of magic has gone.
To be fair, in his first interview, he promised, that we will be proud of our club in 5 years. I think he achieved that.
Now, he just doesn't give a shit anymore.
Now, he just doesn't give a shit anymore.
If I see one more link to Eddie Howe I will lose it. He isn't what we need, he's another project that will take 5-6 years to develop.
If Poch goes, which I hope he doesn't, then we need a proven winner who can take this squad to the next level. Ancelotti, Mourinho, Allegri, maybe even Benitez. If not one of them then Narglesmann would be good.
If Poch goes, which I hope he doesn't, then we need a proven winner who can take this squad to the next level. Ancelotti, Mourinho, Allegri, maybe even Benitez. If not one of them then Narglesmann would be good.
Ancelotti would be interesting. He is a winner, good man manager, experience galore, the press seem to respect and like him, football is quite attractive. Actually it could be an inspired choice considering the predicament we are in atm
With any manager there’s always some risk that things don’t work out despite their previous reputation or success.
If you simply take this logic then AVB would have been the perfect manager for us- he won four trophies with Porto, including a Europa league and domestic title, yet we all know how that worked out.
Same with Ramos who had won European titles with Sevilla.
I personally don’t think it as simple as getting in a manager who has won titles in a lesser league because that means he should have a winners mentality- it’s definitely preferable but not a guarantee of success
People asking for Eddie Howe take a look at Marco Silva, was the next big thing as he was doing wonders at a lower club.
Howe is exactly the same, he’s doing a great job at Bournemouth but that doesn’t mean he will do well at a bigger club.
Howe is exactly the same, he’s doing a great job at Bournemouth but that doesn’t mean he will do well at a bigger club.