How have you come to that conclusion though?
Are you saying Glenn Hoddle skill set is inferior to Deles?
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Are you saying Glenn Hoddle skill set is inferior to Deles?
Based on their abilities they would, fitness maybe not but as has been pointed out if they were playing today their fitness levels would match the players of today's generation. Footballers can always become fitter but you fill find it near impossible to make them more skillful or give them the hunger required to reach the top
Not at all but Glen Hoddle wouldn't get near a Dele, the levels would be miles apart.
If you simply look at skill then I completely agree any player from any decade can be the best, but if you look at all round conditioning, stamina, technique, training and that list goes on ... then today's players, even the average ones, are simply miles better.
It's like comparing a winning F1 car from the 80's with a winning F1 car today ... put them in a race and there is only one winner
Sorry that’s the most absurd thing I’ve ever read
Dele is shit. Being shit but modern doesn’t make you better than good players from before.
Maybe Lamela is better than Cruyff too
And this is why I said you are taking fitness as a skill level.
It’s not.
Take Hoddle in today’s training program and fitness.
Dele in the 80s would be driving a bus, despite being fitter.
Not good enough or mentally capable to work hard.
Dele can cover short and long distances far quicker than Hoddle ever could ... fact not fiction ... that's all that sentence says
If you can't grasp that simply truth you're probably not really understanding the debate.
Of course Fitness is a skill level ... the vast majority of the population cannot attain an EPL fitness level ... to simply sassume they could is pointless, Hoddle couldn't stay fit in the 80's so why would he today? ... if we could all get that fit we'd all have a chance at professional football, but we can't.
Didn't know you were Dele's shrink ... or is that just your unqualified opinion?
Well if I’m wrong about his mentality then he’s just a Ligue one player still who had a season in the sun I guess.
Fitness is a skill? No it’s genetic and application.
It doesn’t help you pass the ball better
Errrr Dele can cover distances more than Kane can. Does that make him a better finisher?
What am I actually reading?
Fitness is a skill like any other it can be honed and trained ... off course it helps you pass the ball better stronger, fitter, faster = better passer
Or should all players be unfit if fitness makes no difference ... if fitness is genetic why have gym's?
You're not reading - clearly it's not your "skill"
Dele is faster over short and long distances than Hoddle was - simple easy to understand statement. No mention of Kane or better finishing ... if you read slowly you might comprehend, give it a try.
And you have basically said Hoddle is nowhere near the player Dele is because:
1) Footballers are fitter today
2) Dele is faster
Well Hoddle has better vision, better finishing, better passing, better ball control, better at dribbling, better than Dele at the Dele Flick, better at set pieces, more imagination, the ability to surprise, can unlock defences more often.
But yeah, you go with “he’s faster”.
The Kane comparison is valid one, using the criteria you seem to think makes someone a better footballer.
So Anthony Joshua is a better passer of the ball than Ndombele?
Being fit isn’t a skill. Everyone can be fit, not everyone can play football.
So 100% what I said .... see if you read it slowly all makes sense
Whatever .... you believe what makes you happy
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It doesn’t make sense because you are claiming that makes Dele a superior footballer.
It’s utter nonsense.
So, as I said, if it’s your fitness that determines how well you trap or pass or shoot a ball, would you say that Anthony Joshua is a better footballer than Ndombele right now.
Having never seen him play, but knowing he’s fitter?
Dele Alli is better than Glenn Hoddle??
What the actual fuck?? Everyday there is some shite posted on this forum however
BangkokSpud
has taken this to a whole new level!!
What the actual fuck?? Everyday there is some shite posted on this forum however
BangkokSpud
has taken this to a whole new level!!Try again remember use slow reading
Dele in 2020 with his level of conditioning is superior in fitness to Hoddle in 1980 with his level of conditioning ... just as all modern athletes are better than their counterparts from 40 years ago.
Not once has it been suggested that Dele is a more skilful player than Hoddle not even close ... you made that leap.
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Agree that premise is totally laughable - the comparison was between the fitness levels of modern players and their 1980's equivalent ... Hoddle at 1980's levels would not be the same player he was in the modern game. Just as 1980's athletes would all be slower than 2020 athletes so 1980's footballers would all be knackered in the modern game.
Dele's not "better" just vastly fitter .... as are all modern players. The whole argument is daft, clearly fitness has vastly improved and equally clearly "best player" is subjective ... Best, Hoddle, Cantona, Messi, Pele you take your pick there is no right or wrong ...
But Dele better than Hoddle not even in his own dreams.