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What even are Tottenham Hotspur? Ten year ago Spurs were the team Colin Farrell compared to Purgatory in In Bruges. Now Spurs are Champions League mainstays, posting higher revenues than North London rivals Woolwich, and playing in a top class stadium after two years at Wembley. By all objective measures (save trophies), Spurs are one of the ten biggest clubs in world football.

And yet, coming into Summer 2019, it was fair for Tottenham fans to wonder if the linear progression from midtable afterthoughts to Champions League finalists was over, and that the Champions League run was the beginning of the end of the Pochettino era club that had been defined by overwhelming teams in midfield. Despite the Pochettino Air Raidwizardry that led Spurs to the Final, the team was trending poorly:

Tottenham-Hotspur-Premier-League-Trendlines-1.png

Mousa Dembele got old and left, Eric Dier hurt and bad, and with that, the stability and solidity in midfield that had defined Tottenham from 2015 to 2018 was gone. Spurs defensive actions and pressing rates went down.

Tottenham-Hotspur-Premier-League-vs-Tottenham-Hotspur-Premier-League.png

Turnovers went up as players couldn’t rely on Dembele to bail them out under pressure. The youth Spurs had been able to rely on to improve was gone: Kane, Son, and Eriksen, were no longer up and coming but at peak ages.

Tottenham-Hotspur-2018_2019_-Minutes-On-Pitch-against-Age.png

The peak level talent still performed, although Harry Kane fell off with a rash of ankle injuries. Dele Alli and Heung Min son, in particular, maintained elite form while filling in at slightly different roles. Toby Alderweireld and Jan Vertonghen remained one of the best defensive pairings in the world. Danny Rose got back some of that old time feeling after missing most of the 2017-2018 season and struggling when he played:

Danny-Rose-Tottenham-Hotspur-vs-Danny-Rose-Tottenham-Hotspur.png

Still, after years of buying low, selling high, and buying new young players, Daniel Levy’s magic had seemingly worn out, or, at the very least, taken a stadium building vacation. His inability to delegate meant that the small staff at Tottenham was falling behind teams like Liverpool, with big analytics departments. Tottenham had not bought players in over 500 days, and some of their most recent purchases had included Vincent Janssen and Moussa Sissoko. Without a midfield, no fewer than four Tottenham players have had groin surgery since March, suffering muscle injuries from overwork. The team could not close out matches, dying at the 70th minute after playing constantly and with nobody useful to sub on:

Tottenham-Hotspur-Shot-xG-Timing-.png

The fearsome Pochettino press of past seasons, which had been so imperious:

Tottenham-Hotspur-Defensive-Activity-Heatmap-Premier-League-2017_2018-1.png

now couldn’t sustain itself:

Tottenham-Hotspur-Defensive-Activity-Heatmap-Premier-League-2018_2019-3.png

All season, including at the mid-winter break, Spurs fans demanded: Daniel Levy, buy a midfield please. No reinforcements came despite rumors about Youri Tielemans and others. A strong sense of dread set in among the fan base, wondering if Levy would ever find players worthy of spending money on or if he refused to believe that the new prices were real.

On July 2, 2019, 517 days after Tottenham last brought in a new player, Daniel Levy assuaged all fears, buying Tanguy Ndombele, one of the best young midfielders in the world, and a great replacement for Mousa Dembele:

Lyon-vs-Mousa-Demb%C3%A9l%C3%A9-Tottenham-Hotspur.png


Alone, Ndombele solves almost all of the problems Tottenham had last season. His ball winning is excellent, and while not quite Mousa Dembele level, he offers much more range than Tottenham had in midfield last season. He also adds the ball progression that the team sorely lacked from midfield last season, and is perhaps the best deep midfield passer Spurs have had under Mauricio Pochettino. Mousa Dembele, who had an elite pass completion percentage rarely pinged balls across the park like Ndombele can, instead beating a man and finding a good, simple pass that way. Ndombele’s 0.13 open play expected assists per 90 minutes represents attacking incisiveness in midfield Spurs desperately needed. In Spurs’ first preseason match against Juventus, Ndombele showed Spurs fans what they have been missing, picking off a crossfield pass at the edge of the final third, taking two touches, and threading a gorgeous through ball to Lucas Moura for a goal.

Rather than being overstretched as the key player in midfield, the somewhat juvenated Moussa Sissoko will be able to play a more limited role. Harry Winks and Eric Dier will now be able to play at the base of midfield for Tottenham, and perhaps Dier can return to his old self after a season of never-ending maladies:

If Tottenham’s transfer window had ended with just the acquisition of Ndombele and nothing else happened, dayenu. We could have predicted that Spurs would finish with an underlying talent level of points in the high 70s, getting back to the 16-17 or 17-18 seasons, back to where they were when they had a home field advantage of any sort (notably, Spurs had no PKs awarded to them at home last season, with Wembley providing no homefield).

But the offseason did not end there. With questions about Christian Eriksen’s future remaining, Tottenham went out and bought Giovani Lo Celso (at the wire), another one of the most promising young midfielders in Europe. Last season, Spurs asked Eriksen to play a deeper midfielder role, thinking that his pressure abilities and constant motor would allow him to be a free eight. It did not work. Eriksen is much more than a luxury ten, pressuring and harrying the ball while providing a great amount of creativity, but he could not translate that into the deeper role.

Lo Celso, on the other hand, has proven that he can both be a true midfielder and something more attacking. In 2017-2018, Lo Celso led Ligue 1 in possession adjusted tackles per 90, and put up a stat line that was stunningly similar to Ndombele’s:

Paris-Saint-Germain-vs-Lyon.png

Last year, at Betis, he was asked to do more creative work and scoring, a la Eriksen, and shined brightly:

Real-Betis-vs-Christian-Eriksen-Tottenham-Hotspur.png

Even if Tottenham do lose Eriksen by the end of August, the additions of Lo Celso and Ndombele will have transformed the squad’s ball winning and will likely replace most of the creativity they lose if Eriksen departs. Ndombele and Lo Celso are certainly capable of playing in a pivot together given their ball winning abilities. Whether Pochettino thinks Lo Celso can play in a midfield two remains in doubt, given Spurs were looking at Bruno Fernandes, Paulo Dybala, and Philippe Coutinho in his stead.

Nonetheless, in Lo Celso, Ndombele, and Dele, Tottenham now have three of the best two way midfielders in the world, providing both great ball winning and great creativity all over the pitch, albeit in vastly different ways. Far from last year’s struggles to craft a functioning midfield of any sort, this year Pochettino may be faced with difficulties getting all of his great young midfielders on the pitch. Notably, the midfield Spurs have developed is ready for a five year stretch at peak age: Winks, Lo Celso, Ndombele, and Dele are all 23 and under.

The youth movement continued for Spurs at fullback. Tottenham sold Kieran Trippier and have not, as yet, replaced him. Instead, Pochettino will make due with a rotation of Serge Aurier, Kyle Walker-Peters and converted central defender Juan Foyth, though Foyth is out for at least a month now with a severe ankle injury. The decision to consider Foyth at right back has led to much consternation among Spurs fans, as Foyth’s rash defending in the box and deep belief in his technical ability has led to him making many mistakes. On the other hand, it’s hard not to see why Pochettino wants to get Foyth on the field one way or another:

His list of most comparable players in the Statsbomb database offers a stunning array of talents at various positions, speaking to the Spurs fans who have wanted to see him higher up the pitch: Delaney, Lenglet, Sandro, Fernandinho, Emre Can, Jordan Amavi, Rodri, and Bouna Sarr. Putting Foyth at right back, where his dribbling and tackling skills can shine while minimizing the costs of his mistakes by taking them outside the box, may allow Tottenham to get the best from him and let him develop.

While Tottenham will certainly miss Trippier’s ball progression, the additions of Ndombele and Lo Celso should mean the team will need less ball progression from its fullbacks, particularly as they should expect to win the ball higher up the pitch to begin with this season.

On the other side, the club brought in Ryan Sessegnon, who was the Championship player of the year in 2017/2018 before a rockier season in the Premier League. Sessegnon is probably best suited as a wingback right now, with tons of attacking spark and solid defensive abilities, but without the pure burst to be an out and out winger or the top flight experience to defend the elite outside attackers in the Premier League. Slotted as a replacement for Danny Rose, his ability to play at left back will likely be down to Pochettino whispering his fullback magic some more. Still, a player who was at worst average as a fullback and left wing for a broken Fulham team at 18-years-old has a bright future ahead, and much of the commentary on him from last year seems to ignore just how good he was at 17 and just how bad Fulham were last season.

How will Spurs Play?

Last year, without a midfield, Pochettino tinkered more than ever before, playing the Air Raid and mixing and matching his players as best he could. After years of working with a 4-2-3-1 and then a 3-5-2 system, Pochettino reliably used a 4-4-2 diamond last season, pushing Dele Alli and Christian Eriksen to their limits playing both as attackers and midfielders.

This season, Spurs will have much more solidity in midfield, and with it, will likely return to their suffocating pressing of years past. We should expect much more defensive activity high up the pitch, and that Pochettino will run out more midfield twos this season than last year, allowing Dele, Son, Kane, and Lucas/Eriksen/Lo Celso all on the pitch together with Ndombele and one of Dier or Winks paired with him. Perhaps we may see that Lo Celso/Ndombele pivot behind Dele, Lamela, Son, and Kane (assuming Eriksen leaves).

Spurs fans should expect to see much less Moussa Sissoko, whose fit with Ndombele in a two appears quite weak. If we do see Sissoko and Ndombele together, it would likely be in a midfield three. If Lo Celso is considered a direct Eriksen replacement, expect to see Harry Winks and Eric Dier at the base of midfield quite frequently, with Sissoko the odd man out. While a legitimate European hero last season for Tottenham, a team with Spurs’ aspirations clearly needed to see fewer minutes from him, and he is now properly situated as a solid rotation option, not a locked-in starter.

With Toby Alderweireld playing out his contract, and Ryan Sessegnon in tow, Spurs could also play more back 3 than they did last year, putting Davinson Sanchez on the pitch with Vertonghen and Alderweireld. We could also see back four systems with Juan Foyth at a right back/centerback flex position as the left backs push up the field more in a lopsided formation.

The team also now have considerably more positional depth than it has under Pochettino, with Lucas and Erik Lamela (when healthy) legitimate attacking substitutes, who can get in behind. Eric Dier, Harry Winks, and Moussa Sissoko (along with what’s left of Victor Wanyama) as midfield rotation pieces, and Dier, Sanchez, Foyth and even Davies able to step in at center back. While at their peak Spurs could put it together – as evidenced by their Champions League run – the team simply could not compete week in and week out in the Premier League. This season, things should be different, if a little thin at fullback.

After the stasis of the past two years, where does all this movement leave Spurs? While Manchester City and Liverpool look to remain world beaters, and favorite in the league, Spurs are now just a step below them. The just so stories to get Spurs to a title are easy to imagine with this squad: finishing luck or injuries do in their opponents, Harry Kane returns to his 2017/2018 form after a summer off getting shredded, or Dele, Lo Celso and/or Ndombele make another leap. On the other hand, the downsides are also apparent: Hugo Lloris reverts to merely being good after leading the league in goals saved above average (GSAA) last season. Spurs did an amazing job fixing last year’s biggest weakness, but in doing so stretched their fullback quality somewhat thin. If Foyth and Sessegnon aren’t able to perform at fullback, Tottenham could struggle down the wings. Kane could never recover. Most likely though, Spurs have separated themselves from their London rivals and Manchester United, solidifying themselves as a low 80 point talent team.

The truly impressive thing about this Spurs offseason was not actually what it has done for this season, which again is likely to go to City or Liverpool. Instead, Tottenham fans should marvel at how the team is set up for the next five years to come. Spurs’ age profile is once again where Daniel Levy wants it, with 23 and under talent across the pitch, including bought and loaned back prospect Jack Clarke at Leeds. Perhaps as Liverpool and Manchester City’ peak age players need to be refreshed in the next few years, Spurs will be poised to step into that potential void. No longer symbolic of Purgatory, Spurs appear poised to ascend to the football heavens in the next half decade.


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I am so excited for this season. Finally, we feel... Fresh.
 
Does anyone else think it's interesting that neither new boy decided to take the (available) number 9.

I wonder if there's a decent reason for that...

- was 9 pencilled in for Dybala if we had pulled that transfer off?
- has another existing player nabbed it in Janssen's departure?
- did they simply not want to take a 'starting XI' number as they are only new to the team?

Just curious. Funnily enough, I wouldn't mind at all if Kane decided to swap from 10 to 9. I think the latter actually suits him better.
Dybala is having number 9 in January
:pochsmirk:
 

What even are Tottenham Hotspur? Ten year ago Spurs were the team Colin Farrell compared to Purgatory in In Bruges. Now Spurs are Champions League mainstays, posting higher revenues than North London rivals Woolwich, and playing in a top class stadium after two years at Wembley. By all objective measures (save trophies), Spurs are one of the ten biggest clubs in world football.

And yet, coming into Summer 2019, it was fair for Tottenham fans to wonder if the linear progression from midtable afterthoughts to Champions League finalists was over, and that the Champions League run was the beginning of the end of the Pochettino era club that had been defined by overwhelming teams in midfield. Despite the Pochettino Air Raidwizardry that led Spurs to the Final, the team was trending poorly:

Tottenham-Hotspur-Premier-League-Trendlines-1.png

Mousa Dembele got old and left, Eric Dier hurt and bad, and with that, the stability and solidity in midfield that had defined Tottenham from 2015 to 2018 was gone. Spurs defensive actions and pressing rates went down.

Tottenham-Hotspur-Premier-League-vs-Tottenham-Hotspur-Premier-League.png

Turnovers went up as players couldn’t rely on Dembele to bail them out under pressure. The youth Spurs had been able to rely on to improve was gone: Kane, Son, and Eriksen, were no longer up and coming but at peak ages.

Tottenham-Hotspur-2018_2019_-Minutes-On-Pitch-against-Age.png

The peak level talent still performed, although Harry Kane fell off with a rash of ankle injuries. Dele Alli and Heung Min son, in particular, maintained elite form while filling in at slightly different roles. Toby Alderweireld and Jan Vertonghen remained one of the best defensive pairings in the world. Danny Rose got back some of that old time feeling after missing most of the 2017-2018 season and struggling when he played:

Danny-Rose-Tottenham-Hotspur-vs-Danny-Rose-Tottenham-Hotspur.png

Still, after years of buying low, selling high, and buying new young players, Daniel Levy’s magic had seemingly worn out, or, at the very least, taken a stadium building vacation. His inability to delegate meant that the small staff at Tottenham was falling behind teams like Liverpool, with big analytics departments. Tottenham had not bought players in over 500 days, and some of their most recent purchases had included Vincent Janssen and Moussa Sissoko. Without a midfield, no fewer than four Tottenham players have had groin surgery since March, suffering muscle injuries from overwork. The team could not close out matches, dying at the 70th minute after playing constantly and with nobody useful to sub on:

Tottenham-Hotspur-Shot-xG-Timing-.png

The fearsome Pochettino press of past seasons, which had been so imperious:

Tottenham-Hotspur-Defensive-Activity-Heatmap-Premier-League-2017_2018-1.png

now couldn’t sustain itself:

Tottenham-Hotspur-Defensive-Activity-Heatmap-Premier-League-2018_2019-3.png

All season, including at the mid-winter break, Spurs fans demanded: Daniel Levy, buy a midfield please. No reinforcements came despite rumors about Youri Tielemans and others. A strong sense of dread set in among the fan base, wondering if Levy would ever find players worthy of spending money on or if he refused to believe that the new prices were real.

On July 2, 2019, 517 days after Tottenham last brought in a new player, Daniel Levy assuaged all fears, buying Tanguy Ndombele, one of the best young midfielders in the world, and a great replacement for Mousa Dembele:

Lyon-vs-Mousa-Demb%C3%A9l%C3%A9-Tottenham-Hotspur.png


Alone, Ndombele solves almost all of the problems Tottenham had last season. His ball winning is excellent, and while not quite Mousa Dembele level, he offers much more range than Tottenham had in midfield last season. He also adds the ball progression that the team sorely lacked from midfield last season, and is perhaps the best deep midfield passer Spurs have had under Mauricio Pochettino. Mousa Dembele, who had an elite pass completion percentage rarely pinged balls across the park like Ndombele can, instead beating a man and finding a good, simple pass that way. Ndombele’s 0.13 open play expected assists per 90 minutes represents attacking incisiveness in midfield Spurs desperately needed. In Spurs’ first preseason match against Juventus, Ndombele showed Spurs fans what they have been missing, picking off a crossfield pass at the edge of the final third, taking two touches, and threading a gorgeous through ball to Lucas Moura for a goal.

Rather than being overstretched as the key player in midfield, the somewhat juvenated Moussa Sissoko will be able to play a more limited role. Harry Winks and Eric Dier will now be able to play at the base of midfield for Tottenham, and perhaps Dier can return to his old self after a season of never-ending maladies:

If Tottenham’s transfer window had ended with just the acquisition of Ndombele and nothing else happened, dayenu. We could have predicted that Spurs would finish with an underlying talent level of points in the high 70s, getting back to the 16-17 or 17-18 seasons, back to where they were when they had a home field advantage of any sort (notably, Spurs had no PKs awarded to them at home last season, with Wembley providing no homefield).

But the offseason did not end there. With questions about Christian Eriksen’s future remaining, Tottenham went out and bought Giovani Lo Celso (at the wire), another one of the most promising young midfielders in Europe. Last season, Spurs asked Eriksen to play a deeper midfielder role, thinking that his pressure abilities and constant motor would allow him to be a free eight. It did not work. Eriksen is much more than a luxury ten, pressuring and harrying the ball while providing a great amount of creativity, but he could not translate that into the deeper role.

Lo Celso, on the other hand, has proven that he can both be a true midfielder and something more attacking. In 2017-2018, Lo Celso led Ligue 1 in possession adjusted tackles per 90, and put up a stat line that was stunningly similar to Ndombele’s:

Paris-Saint-Germain-vs-Lyon.png

Last year, at Betis, he was asked to do more creative work and scoring, a la Eriksen, and shined brightly:

Real-Betis-vs-Christian-Eriksen-Tottenham-Hotspur.png

Even if Tottenham do lose Eriksen by the end of August, the additions of Lo Celso and Ndombele will have transformed the squad’s ball winning and will likely replace most of the creativity they lose if Eriksen departs. Ndombele and Lo Celso are certainly capable of playing in a pivot together given their ball winning abilities. Whether Pochettino thinks Lo Celso can play in a midfield two remains in doubt, given Spurs were looking at Bruno Fernandes, Paulo Dybala, and Philippe Coutinho in his stead.

Nonetheless, in Lo Celso, Ndombele, and Dele, Tottenham now have three of the best two way midfielders in the world, providing both great ball winning and great creativity all over the pitch, albeit in vastly different ways. Far from last year’s struggles to craft a functioning midfield of any sort, this year Pochettino may be faced with difficulties getting all of his great young midfielders on the pitch. Notably, the midfield Spurs have developed is ready for a five year stretch at peak age: Winks, Lo Celso, Ndombele, and Dele are all 23 and under.

The youth movement continued for Spurs at fullback. Tottenham sold Kieran Trippier and have not, as yet, replaced him. Instead, Pochettino will make due with a rotation of Serge Aurier, Kyle Walker-Peters and converted central defender Juan Foyth, though Foyth is out for at least a month now with a severe ankle injury. The decision to consider Foyth at right back has led to much consternation among Spurs fans, as Foyth’s rash defending in the box and deep belief in his technical ability has led to him making many mistakes. On the other hand, it’s hard not to see why Pochettino wants to get Foyth on the field one way or another:

His list of most comparable players in the Statsbomb database offers a stunning array of talents at various positions, speaking to the Spurs fans who have wanted to see him higher up the pitch: Delaney, Lenglet, Sandro, Fernandinho, Emre Can, Jordan Amavi, Rodri, and Bouna Sarr. Putting Foyth at right back, where his dribbling and tackling skills can shine while minimizing the costs of his mistakes by taking them outside the box, may allow Tottenham to get the best from him and let him develop.

While Tottenham will certainly miss Trippier’s ball progression, the additions of Ndombele and Lo Celso should mean the team will need less ball progression from its fullbacks, particularly as they should expect to win the ball higher up the pitch to begin with this season.

On the other side, the club brought in Ryan Sessegnon, who was the Championship player of the year in 2017/2018 before a rockier season in the Premier League. Sessegnon is probably best suited as a wingback right now, with tons of attacking spark and solid defensive abilities, but without the pure burst to be an out and out winger or the top flight experience to defend the elite outside attackers in the Premier League. Slotted as a replacement for Danny Rose, his ability to play at left back will likely be down to Pochettino whispering his fullback magic some more. Still, a player who was at worst average as a fullback and left wing for a broken Fulham team at 18-years-old has a bright future ahead, and much of the commentary on him from last year seems to ignore just how good he was at 17 and just how bad Fulham were last season.

How will Spurs Play?

Last year, without a midfield, Pochettino tinkered more than ever before, playing the Air Raid and mixing and matching his players as best he could. After years of working with a 4-2-3-1 and then a 3-5-2 system, Pochettino reliably used a 4-4-2 diamond last season, pushing Dele Alli and Christian Eriksen to their limits playing both as attackers and midfielders.

This season, Spurs will have much more solidity in midfield, and with it, will likely return to their suffocating pressing of years past. We should expect much more defensive activity high up the pitch, and that Pochettino will run out more midfield twos this season than last year, allowing Dele, Son, Kane, and Lucas/Eriksen/Lo Celso all on the pitch together with Ndombele and one of Dier or Winks paired with him. Perhaps we may see that Lo Celso/Ndombele pivot behind Dele, Lamela, Son, and Kane (assuming Eriksen leaves).

Spurs fans should expect to see much less Moussa Sissoko, whose fit with Ndombele in a two appears quite weak. If we do see Sissoko and Ndombele together, it would likely be in a midfield three. If Lo Celso is considered a direct Eriksen replacement, expect to see Harry Winks and Eric Dier at the base of midfield quite frequently, with Sissoko the odd man out. While a legitimate European hero last season for Tottenham, a team with Spurs’ aspirations clearly needed to see fewer minutes from him, and he is now properly situated as a solid rotation option, not a locked-in starter.

With Toby Alderweireld playing out his contract, and Ryan Sessegnon in tow, Spurs could also play more back 3 than they did last year, putting Davinson Sanchez on the pitch with Vertonghen and Alderweireld. We could also see back four systems with Juan Foyth at a right back/centerback flex position as the left backs push up the field more in a lopsided formation.

The team also now have considerably more positional depth than it has under Pochettino, with Lucas and Erik Lamela (when healthy) legitimate attacking substitutes, who can get in behind. Eric Dier, Harry Winks, and Moussa Sissoko (along with what’s left of Victor Wanyama) as midfield rotation pieces, and Dier, Sanchez, Foyth and even Davies able to step in at center back. While at their peak Spurs could put it together – as evidenced by their Champions League run – the team simply could not compete week in and week out in the Premier League. This season, things should be different, if a little thin at fullback.

After the stasis of the past two years, where does all this movement leave Spurs? While Manchester City and Liverpool look to remain world beaters, and favorite in the league, Spurs are now just a step below them. The just so stories to get Spurs to a title are easy to imagine with this squad: finishing luck or injuries do in their opponents, Harry Kane returns to his 2017/2018 form after a summer off getting shredded, or Dele, Lo Celso and/or Ndombele make another leap. On the other hand, the downsides are also apparent: Hugo Lloris reverts to merely being good after leading the league in goals saved above average (GSAA) last season. Spurs did an amazing job fixing last year’s biggest weakness, but in doing so stretched their fullback quality somewhat thin. If Foyth and Sessegnon aren’t able to perform at fullback, Tottenham could struggle down the wings. Kane could never recover. Most likely though, Spurs have separated themselves from their London rivals and Manchester United, solidifying themselves as a low 80 point talent team.

The truly impressive thing about this Spurs offseason was not actually what it has done for this season, which again is likely to go to City or Liverpool. Instead, Tottenham fans should marvel at how the team is set up for the next five years to come. Spurs’ age profile is once again where Daniel Levy wants it, with 23 and under talent across the pitch, including bought and loaned back prospect Jack Clarke at Leeds. Perhaps as Liverpool and Manchester City’ peak age players need to be refreshed in the next few years, Spurs will be poised to step into that potential void. No longer symbolic of Purgatory, Spurs appear poised to ascend to the football heavens in the next half decade.


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I am so excited for this season. Finally, we feel... Fresh.
Read that article yesterday. Gave me the feels in my pants.
 
My apologies if this isn't the perfect thread to discuss this:
These are my Fifa 20 rating predictions
(please just ignore if you're not into this)

Lloris 88 (current rating on Fifa 19) - 88 (prediction on Fifa 20)
Gazzaniga 75 - 77

Rose 81 - 81
Davies 81 - 82
Vertonghen 87 - 87
Alderweireld 87 - 87
Sanchez 83 - 83
Tanganga 62 - 65
Aurier 80 - 80
KWP 72 - 77
Foyth 74 - 77

Winks 79 - 81
Ndombele 81 - 83
Wanyama 79 - 77
Dier 79 - 79
Sissoko 80 - 82
Eriksen 88 - 88
Dele 85 - 85
Skipp 65 - 73

Son 87 - 88
Kane 88 - 88
Lucas 83 - 85
Lamela 81 - 81
Parrott 58 - 65
Sessegnon 75 - 76
Lo Celso 82 - 85
 

1 Lloris
22 Gazzaniga

3 Rose
4 Alderweireld
5 Vertonghen
6 Sanchez
16 Walker-Peters
21 Foyth
24 Aurier
33 Davies

8 Winks
11 Lamela
12 Wanyama
15 Dier
17 Sissoko
20 Dele
23 Eriksen
27 Moura
14 N'Koudou
28 NDombele
52 Skipp L

18 Lo Celso
19 Sessegnon
7 Son
10 Kane

New numbers released.

Skipp was 52, now 29. Suggests a move to a more permanent first team player and deservedly so.
Tanganga was 57, now 39. Again could this be an indication of first squad status?
Marsh was 47, now 40.
Edwards was 44, now no squad number? He went on trial somewhere but is he still on our books then?
Parrott was 71, now 52. Big shirt to fill taking it from Skippo! Certainly a form of 'promotion'.
White was 72, now 53. Again feels like a step up in development squad status.
 
EPLECL
NON-HG (16)NON-HG (17)
LLORISLLORIS
GAZZANIGAGAZZANIGA
VORM
ALDERWEIRELDALDERWEIRELD
VERTONGHENVERTONGHEN
SANCHEZSANCHEZ
DIERDIER
SISSOKOSISSOKO
NDOMBELENDOMBELE
LAMELALAMELA
LO CELSOLO CELSO
MOURAMOURA
SONSON
DAVIES
PARROTT
WANYAMAWANYAMA
ERIKSENERIKSEN
AURIERAURIER
HG (7)ASSOCIATION (2)
DAVIESSESSEGNON
ALLIALLI
CLUB TRAINED (4)
KWPKWP
WINKSWINKS
KANEKANE
GEORGIOU
ROSEROSE
SQUAD TOTAL: 23SQUAD TOTAL: 23

Assuming Wanyama leaves we can buy 2 non-HG eligible for EPL.
If Parrott gets dropped we can buy 2 non-HG eligible for ECL.
If squad stays the same we can buy 2 HG (3 or 4 HG if Wanyama leaves and Georgiou is dropped).
 
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EPLECL
NON-HG (16)NON-HG (17)
LLORISLLORIS
GAZZANIGAGAZZANIGA
VORM
ALDERWEIRELDALDERWEIRELD
VERTONGHENVERTONGHEN
SANCHEZSANCHEZ
DIERDIER
SISSOKOSISSOKO
NDOMBELENDOMBELE
LAMELALAMELA
LO CELSOLO CELSO
MOURAMOURA
SONSON
DAVIES
PARROTT
WANYAMAWANYAMA
ERIKSENERIKSEN
AURIERAURIER
HG (7)ASSOCIATION (2)
DAVIESSESSEGNON
ALLIALLI
CLUB TRAINED (4)
KWPKWP
WINKSWINKS
KANEKANE
GEORGIOU
ROSEROSE
SQUAD TOTAL: 23SQUAD TOTAL: 23

Assuming Wanyama leaves we can buy 2 non-HG eligible for EPL.
If Parrott gets dropped we can buy 2 non-HG eligible for ECL.
If squad stays the same we can buy 2 HG (3 or 4 HG if Wanyama leaves and Georgiou is dropped).

Really cannot see Spurs buying s player who cannot be registered for CL and whilst in theory we probably wouldn't play Parrott in CL I don't see us dropping him from the squad whilst trying to get one of our most coveted youngsters to sign a new contract.

All of which means we have room in our squad right now to sign 2 HG players - but no overseas trained players.

We'd love to sell Wanyama but he turned down a great move to Club Bruges in the summer, so not a racing certainty hell go in January - unfortunately !

Sissoko leaving might have been an option with Mourhino defining him as a RW not CM ( but playing him there) ......but now he is injured that's another option gone.

Lamela leaving would make sense given his injury record, but no rumours so far.

Aurier is one I'd love to go - but I think we'd need Pereira to come in for that to happen - so wouldn't free up any overseas trained player spaces in the squad

Eriksen leaving is still up in the air - and with our injuries Mourhino might want to keep him Ben if he leaves on a free in the summer.

So, signing an oversees trained player is very dependent on an existing one leaving, and odds not in our favour on that as if today.

Still think an HG player or two is the most likely - likely relatively inexperienced unless Bentaleb, really don't see Zaha unless Palace drop their price by 50% to 75%.
 
Really cannot see Spurs buying s player who cannot be registered for CL and whilst in theory we probably wouldn't play Parrott in CL I don't see us dropping him from the squad whilst trying to get one of our most coveted youngsters to sign a new contract.

All of which means we have room in our squad right now to sign 2 HG players - but no overseas trained players.

We'd love to sell Wanyama but he turned down a great move to Club Bruges in the summer, so not a racing certainty hell go in January - unfortunately !

Sissoko leaving might have been an option with Mourhino defining him as a RW not CM ( but playing him there) ......but now he is injured that's another option gone.

Lamela leaving would make sense given his injury record, but no rumours so far.

Aurier is one I'd love to go - but I think we'd need Pereira to come in for that to happen - so wouldn't free up any overseas trained player spaces in the squad

Eriksen leaving is still up in the air - and with our injuries Mourhino might want to keep him Ben if he leaves on a free in the summer.

So, signing an oversees trained player is very dependent on an existing one leaving, and odds not in our favour on that as if today.

Still think an HG player or two is the most likely - likely relatively inexperienced unless Bentaleb, really don't see Zaha unless Palace drop their price by 50% to 75%.
We can drop Wanyama from the CL squad. He does not look like getting a game anyway. Will Sissoko be fit enough to play? At Best it will be the final and will it be like Kane last year with him being not match fit. I do not see any reason we cannot add a foreign based player to the squad.
 
Gedson makes 17 for EPL but one/two non-HG has to be removed from our ECL squad to accommodate Fernandes/Vorm.
Unlikely that Georgiou will feature so 2 HG slots still potentially available.



EPLECL
NON-HG (17)NON-HG (19)**
LLORISLLORIS
GAZZANIGAGAZZANIGA
VORMVORM***
ALDERWEIRELDALDERWEIRELD
VERTONGHENVERTONGHEN
SANCHEZSANCHEZ
DIERDIER
SISSOKOSISSOKO
NDOMBELENDOMBELE
LAMELALAMELA
LO CELSOLO CELSO
MOURAMOURA
SONSON
GEDSONGEDSON**
DAVIES
PARROTT
WANYAMAWANYAMA
ERIKSENERIKSEN
AURIERAURIER
HG (7)ASSOCIATION (2)
DAVIESSESSEGNON
ALLIALLI
CLUB TRAINED (4)
KWPKWP
WINKSWINKS
KANEKANE
GEORGIOU***
ROSEROSE
SQUAD TOTAL: 24SQUAD TOTAL: 25

I think that Sissoko will not be included in the CL squad - as he's not back until April he could probably only play in semi final and final - to allow Gedson to be included.

Enough room in PL squad for Gedson as Davies counted as HG and Parrott as u21, still within the 17 overseas trained player limit.

Hopefully a deal being done to sell Wanyama or ano to allow a striker to join - only a few HG strikers around we'd want (eg Dembele at Lyon - ex Fulham - but Aulas said he's not going).
 
I was thinking about Sissoko as well. It could be that (despite not playing him much) JM still has Wanyama as a back up?
But for me ideally we sell Aurier, Wanyama and Eriksen.
My heart is not set on a particular RB replacement but I really would like Aurier to leave. Wanyama has not impressed me for a while now.
Eriksen I would like to keep but realistically the club must seek a fee and a January exit.
 
I was thinking about Sissoko as well. It could be that (despite not playing him much) JM still has Wanyama as a back up?
But for me ideally we sell Aurier, Wanyama and Eriksen.
My heart is not set on a particular RB replacement but I really would like Aurier to leave. Wanyama has not impressed me for a while now.
Eriksen I would like to keep but realistically the club must seek a fee and a January exit.

Yup we could drop Wanyama from CL squad and include him in the PL squad (in effect same reasons, Davies counted as HG under PL rules, Parrott u21 under PL rules) to create an extra overseas trained player place in CL squad - presumably to accommodate a striker. But that's the last opportunity to play that game.

Better to sell an overseas trained player though.

Certainly like to sell Aurier, and loved the Pereira (Leicester) @ £30m rumours, although they seemed far fetched. Had wondered after last night whether Mourhino would contemplate buying Spence (Boro) and use him and Tanganga as our RB's but that might be a bit too risky.

If we sell Eriksen (and obviously if we get a decent fee it makes sense) but I think we need an extra body in the squad if we do - so unless we are happy to bring in someone like Eze (great prospect but might take time to bridge gap to PL quality players) we wont alter the overseas trained/HG balance.
 
Ignoring the academy here's all the contract expiry dates:

ERIKSEN Christian2020
VERTONGHEN Jan2020
VORM2020
DIER Eric2021
ROSE Danny2021
WANYAMA Victor2021

All the other senior players have contracts until at least 2022.
 
So how it's looking going into the tail end of the 2019/2020 season I wonder how many will make the summer cull:

Lloris
Gazzaniga

Vorm
Aurier
Walker-Peters
Alderweireld
Vertonghen
Sanchez
Foyth
Tanganga
Rose
Cirkin
Davies
Dier

Wanyama
Winks
Skipp
Gedson Fernandes
Ndombele
Sissoko
Lo Celso

Eriksen
Dele
Son
Lucas Moura
Sessegnon
Lamela
Clarke
Kane
Parrott


I make it 8 potentially that have no future at the club under Mourinho. I like Foyth but I'm reading between the lines on that one. Potential loans for Cirkin, Skipp, Clarke & Parrott probably needed, the same perhaps with Tanganga as he's still only new into the first XI but I fancy he'll not be one out for a loan.

Some up for debate (Aurier, Vertonghen etc) but honestly I think I'd probably shift them for the much needed new blood in those positions.
 
Here are the updated squads assuming Eriksen is leaving and Vorm is not included in the ECL squad
(Gedson is U21 for EPL but not ECL.)
Maximum 17 non-HG allowed so we need to remove 1 non-HG if we wish to add to the ECL squad.

EPLECL
NON-HG (15)NON-HG (17)
1LLORISLLORIS1
2GAZZANIGAGAZZANIGA2
3VORM
4AURIERAURIER3
5ALDERWEIRELDALDERWEIRELD4
6VERTONGHENVERTONGHEN5
7SANCHEZSANCHEZ6
8DIERDIER7
9SISSOKOSISSOKO8
10NDOMBELENDOMBELE9
11LAMELALAMELA10
12LO CELSOLO CELSO11
13MOURAMOURA12
14SONSON13
GEDSON14
DAVIES15
PARROTT16
15WANYAMAWANYAMA17
HG (7)ASSOCIATION (2)
DAVIESSESSEGNON
ALLIALLI
CLUB TRAINED (4)
KWPKWP
WINKSWINKS
KANEKANE
GEORGIOU
ROSEROSE
SQUAD TOTAL: 22SQUAD TOTAL: 23


Remove Parrott and/or Wanyama

No way either of those will play in the latter stages of the CL
 
Wanyama in the EPL squad confirmed.


Tottenham Hotspur
25 Squad players (*Home grown)


Alderweireld, Toby Albertine
Alli, Bamidele Jermaine*
Aurier, Serge
Bergwijn, Steven Charles
Davies, Benjamin Thomas*
Dier, Eric Jeremy Edgar
Gazzaniga, Paulo Dino
Heung-Min, Son
Kane, Harry*
Lamela, Erik
Lloris, Hugo
Lo Celso, Giovani
Ndombele Alvaro, Tanguy
Rodrigues Moura Da Silva, Lucas
Sanchez Mina, Davinson
Sissoko, Moussa
Vertonghen, Jan
Vorm, Michel Armand
Wanyama, Victor
Winks, Harry*

U21 players (Contracts and Scholars)

Asante, Enock Amponsah
Austin, Brandon Anthony
Bennett, J'Neil Lloyd
Binks, Luis Thomas
Bowden, Jamie Patrick
Carrington Alberdi, Eddie
Carvalho Fernandes, Gedson
Cesay, Kallum
Cirkin, Dennis
Clarke, Jack Raymond
Clarke, Rayan Romario
Cooper, Chay
Craig, Matthew George
Craig, Michael James
De Bie, Jonathan
De Santiago Alonso, Yago
Dinzeyi, Jonathan Toko Lema
Etete, Kion Reece
Eyoma, Timothy Joel
Fagan-Walcott, Malachi Michael
Foyth, Juan Marcos
Hinds, Tariq Devontae Aaron
John, Nile Omari Mckenzie
Kurylowicz, Kacper
Kyezu, Jeremy
Lo-Tutala, Thimothee Jacques Orcel
Lusala, Dermi
Lyons-Foster, Brooklyn
Markanday, Dilan Kumar
Marsh, George Owen
Muir, Marqes
Mukendi, Jeremie
Mundle, Romaine Lee
Oakley-Boothe, Tashan??
Okedina, Jubril Adesope
Oluwayemi, Oluwaferanmi Joshua Chibuzo
Parrott, Troy Daniel
Patterson, Phoenix MacLaren
Pedder, Rafferty
Pochettino Grippaldi, Maurizio
Richards, Rodel Kurai
Robson, Max
Roles, Jack
Sessegnon, Kouassi Ryan
Shashoua, Armando
Skinner, Aaron William
Skipp, Oliver William
Solberg, Isak Midttun
Statham, Maxwell Louis
Sterling, Kazaiah
Tainio, Maximus Mikael
Tanganga, Japhet Manzambi
Thorpe, Elliot Morgan
Tracey, Shilow
White, Harvey David
Whiteman, Alfie
Whittaker, Tarrelle Ricardo Kabirizi
 
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