Mmmm.... Today was very telling. Says we are sick, we are in trouble - even me who has said continually we have progressed would have to declare we have gone backwards.
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Aaaah, so this particular result was my predicted Poch out outing. A game that means fuck all in a season that in essence means fuck all.
LETS GET OUR 13th MANAGER IN 10 YEARS BOYS!
That'll sort it. Give him time for fuck sake. For once in our shitty existence can we, Spurs fans, show some fucking patience.
Poch has (without saying names) had to deal with good players, poor players, players signed for him, players taking the pi55 and average journey men. What a sham!!
Hopefully next season , get rid of the shite and might and play the best of the rest.
No one person is bigger than the club but Poch deserves another season lets stick with him.
I don't agree that we should sack Poch but fuck me there's a lot of truth in there and it hurts to readI fear for the managers ( Coach ) future. If he's not gone by June. He will be by October. I've seen this all before. It's Hoddle, it's Ramos, it's Gross. The players are not playing for him. Simple. One or two might be onside, but there is a dressing room of players who I'd bet are not. And performances are showing this CLEARLY in my view. As players lost form he should have been using the squad. But when half the squad are Internationals but have been dumped by the coach. Your options are simply. Keep on playing those who are letting you down. And that creates the apathy in performances we are now seeing....these boys are not getting dropped no matter what & that's a nonsense. How can Yedlin not be picked as he's inexperienced. Yet plays in the World Cup finals yet somehow is not good enough to play at Stoke ? It's utterly ridiculous to play Dier @ right back.
I am no fan of Poch, not sure I ever have been really but I wanted him to work out. But I beleive he's had enough time already to shape some basics, but anyone who can't get a defence sorted after 50 + games is clearly doing something badly wrong, add in a midfield with limited creativity & no depth up front & your going to be handed your arse by Stoke & rightly question what this set of coaches are bringing to the party.
Giving a coach time is fine if you could see something working, but from 50 odd games...maybe 4 or so times the performane have been good / very good. The rest of the games have created more questions than answers & the positives are really in reality now just excuses when broken down.
Poch is no doubt a decent human being and for that I am sorry he's being made to look a fool by these players & the Board. I can't imagine he would be doing nothing less than his very best all the time, but it's not working & if it's not working now there is little reason to expect it to be working in Aug/Sep/Oct
and by work I don't mean I expect any higher than 6th. But I don't expect to be paying to watch teams that manage 6 shots on Target in 180 + minutes v Stoke in a season or fail to beat Palace at least once....struggle horribly away to Sheffield United, get dumped out of the FA Cup at home to Leicester etc etc etc....
The owners of the club should also do the decent thing & jog on. They don't help themselves & the end of Season statement better be a good one this May 24th as we have fuck all else to enjoy this summer, except Hugo in a United Top & Vorm being give the #1 and Brad the #13. Baldini got it wrong in appointing Poch. No doubt a Good Coach, but he's at the wrong club. Baldini can't scout players, so why is he given a pass on appointing Poch ? We needed a coach who would get the best out of the expensive players we had, Now 11 months on we have a coach who does not want the players we have, he wants new ones....what a fucking joke that actually is when the reality sinks in. Benjimam Stambouli is living proof something frightening is going on in scouting. If he was Poch's choice. What does that say about the black box and Mitchell ( yes he was not there but did he scout him for Southampton ???)
As a Spurs fan since I can remember & a 25 year Season ticket holder I'd say i don't expect to win the league, but I do want a 25 yard screamer from open play, I do want a flying winger, i do want to see a flick, a trick, an 80 yard pass.....a super star in White & something that makes me think, on days like this, that it's ok as we have X.
For example, just been done at home to Villa...but fucking hell Waddle was amazing....shit game at Barnsley but wow Ginola was special again....did'nt make the Top 6, but Klinsman's goal v Southampton was amazing....etc etc....where as modem Spurs is "got absolutely raped by a limited Stoke and Ryan Mason is not anywhere near as good as Charlie Adam, but we did manage two shots on target in 93 minutes today...."
And that's what we have become under ENIC and it won't change. Till they have gone & someone who dares to dream comes in. Danny Bkachflower was a romantic, he loved Spurs because we were a romantic team, where things were possible...where's the romance in this current set up ?
The flexibility thing is beginning to bug me a bit. We always line up in the same formation regardless of who we are playing and try to play the same way, far too predictable and easy to play against. The subs are often of limited impact and too late. We react to shit happening rather than be pro-active (yeah alright, sometimes that is impossible) but from watching in the stands it seems like the obvious is missed time and time again. That or he's a stubborn bugger (or both, then we are screwed).
Today for example, he should have got hold of Lamela or Chadli and just told them to stick themselves out on the wing when we get the ball rather than crowd out the middle. That way, at least Eriksen can spread the play a bit and create space in front / behind the defence. I think a part of the reason he's been in bad form is the lack of movement and options around him and I do feel a bit sorry for him as he is probably our most creative asset currently.
I think the main thing we need is a defensive midfielder because Bentaleb and especially Mason are not defensively minded enough. Serious questions need to be asked either of Capoue, of our scouting team or of Poch as to why this player isn't Etienne Capoue because the side is crying out for the player he should be.That's the problem with our formation I say it time and time again it only works when full backs get forward
Rose and a decent walker make formation work as then we have attacking options, with full backs who can't go over half way line we become impotent going forward, like today, was terrible
We need 2 full backs both sides who can do the right job plus a proper defensive mid who in this formation would slide across to cover when a full back attacks
Danny does the full back role perfectly in this formation and should be the blue print
So we need this all in place for next season or it won't work again over sustained period
I think the main thing we need is a defensive midfielder because Bentaleb and especially Mason are not defensively minded enough. Serious questions need to be asked either of Capoue, of our scouting team or of Poch as to why this player isn't Etienne Capoue because the side is crying out for the player he should be.
Sometimes I simply wonder 'why was Stambouli signed?'. I mean why? Who asked for him?
As much as I think it's great that Poch isn't prepared to take any bullshit from his players by not playing them through shitty behaviour, but it's worrying the number of players who have been alienated. I guess I trust him that they're all being cunts, but still.Agree we need a strict defensive one in the two and neither of those are it to cover the full back, Bentaleb probably could play anywhere but he isn't the type of player, I have no idea why Capoue not playing but none of the managers he has worked under have rated him. Stambouli - total mystery, all i know is Baldini has correlated with bad signings, perhaps we should have played him more, god knows though?
As much as I think it's great that Poch isn't prepared to take any bullshit from his players by not playing them through shitty behaviour, but it's worrying the number of players who have been alienated. I guess I trust him that they're all being cunts, but still.
Yeah Stambouli I don't feel is being ostracised for attitude reasons, but Capoue I do. I honestly thing we'd be 10x the team if we had Schneiderlin in place of MasonI really don't think Stambouli is any more of a cunt than Rose, I think Poch genuinely does it based on ability, but has been found to randomly chop and change things around and bring people in at the wrong time. Perhaps he likes very few of what he sees and is just mixing it up until we get a summer, I hope Mitchell is the second part of the puzzle and can identify the key targets.