You're right, which is why I very subtly re-worded those sections, and made the point that he was released on bail, which means charges have been made.
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[Yeh, I'd not read the re-edit}
IIRC, Bissouma was on some form of dated bond (whilst under further investigation) that expired in March and then was extended to late May..... Yet he was never charged throughout.
(Which is why I'm not sure if pre-charge release isn't also specifically termed "bail".)
You can be released on police bail if there isn’t enough evidence to charge & I think there’s a holding time limit
It doesn’t mean that he can’t be brought in again , if evidence builds up
It doesn’t mean that he can’t be brought in again , if evidence builds up
.........Of course there is also the good ol' fashioned.... "You'll just be helping us with our enquires, you greasy little scrote" a la The Sweeny.
Get yer trousers on, you're nicked!
Jack Regan even has a quote for TFC
'I hate this bastard place, it's a bloody holiday camp for thieves and weirdoes'
'I hate this bastard place, it's a bloody holiday camp for thieves and weirdoes'
Im not a thief!
One out of two ain't bad.
I stole a few grapes once
Woolwich don't... and if they do, they're all too busy taking selfies or uploading cuntent to their Twatty-Tok-Insta 'follow me like me' pages to notice who is coming or going from the training ground!
How very DARE you!!
We’re the Sweeney and we haven’t had any dinner
Anyone can make an allegation. It would be a disaster if everyone got suspended from their job on the basis of an allegation
There’s no suggestion that he’s been charged with any crime. If he had been charged, they would have said. You can be arrested without being charged. And you can be bailed without having been charged.
It was to the point that why was it published that the club knew .
You can, but with the requirement that you return at a later date to receive the charge.
Basically, if bailed you have been charged or about to be charged.
There are different standards of proof for arresting someone and charging someone. You only need reasonable grounds to suspect an imprisonable offence to lawfully arrest. You need a realistic prospect of conviction to charge. The standard for conviction is beyond reasonable doubt - but the UK courts now translate this as "are you sure the defendant is guilty?"
In legal terms, reasonable = objectively reasonable.
Police often arrest someone, then bail pending further inquiries and charge, caution or NFA at a later date. It's extremely rare in UK that someone would be prosecuted for rape without first being arrested for the same offence.
Hope this helps rather than hinders
There's two types of bail in the UK. Police bail and Court bail. Police bail a suspect pending further investigation / inquiries. The court remand someone on bail until the next court hearing date.
When police bail someone they have not yet laid charges at Court (they need to investigate further before referring the file to the CPS for a decision on what - if any - charges should be laid)
No so. You can be arrested and questioned on suspicion of having committed a crime. You then can be bailed while further enquiries are carried out. It doesn't necessarily mean you'll be charged. It's standard procedure.
Yes, I was basically trying to point out that if released on bail,it doesn't mean you are in the clear, which is what many woolwich fans seem to think.