Would be literally if his league titles at Milan weren’t disqualified due to the Calciopoli scandal. I haven’t got the stats to hand but I’m sure he would be the most decorated manager in Europe, surely?
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Would be literally if his league titles at Milan weren’t disqualified due to the Calciopoli scandal. I haven’t got the stats to hand but I’m sure he would be the most decorated manager in Europe, surely?
I don't discredit their mentality at all. But they are often an awful team to watch all things considered. Had City been a touch more ruthless they would have won by 3 or 4 and everyone would be saying how pathetic they were. That's football.
It's not done by fluke, bar last season they just seem to have that know how to get over the line, the CL run of 2021/22 was mental when they knocked out Chelsea, City and Liverpool.
I dunno man it seems like they have that aura/experience which gives them extra belief and gives the opposition the opposite.
Yes and no. We were in it during the Leicester title season so can understand not really caring during that one (similarly when we dropped into the last 32 from the CL the next year, though fuck me we lost to Gent), but we've seemed disinterested even when we've not had much else to play for in a season.
Either way, hopefully this really is a new group of lads with a new outlook.
Not sure why when they still have a better 11 than Woolwich, man for man. Only reason they failed this season in the Bundesliga is because their manager didn't get enough out of them, and Leverkusen had a freak season. Bayern would have been pretty strong favourites in the tie if it wasn't for Tuchel.
Not sure but the development of this Madrid side under Ancelotti is underrated after losing big players
I get that. Though tonight I thought City lost that game because of themselves more than anything else. Madrid were always going to be plucky. But on any other night it's another 4-0 game as it was last year.
People have gone weirdly overboard on how bad Bayern are. One poster even said that he'd be 'disappointed' if we didn't beat them, lol.
Leverkusen would be leading the league in Pep's first season and Heynckes treble season. This Bayern side aren't vintage but would be leading the Bundesliga most seasons, they're decent. Would obviously be top four in England easily.
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City had loads of the ball and did create but ultimately not as much as they'd have liked, especially in terms of clear cut stuff. Both their biggest chances came from errors (including the goal which Rudiger handed them).
A lot of tippy-tappy stuff.
Think they would be battling for second place with a better manager than Tuchel in charge. I give them a real chance against Real Madrid. They'll have much more of the ball against Bayern which will suit the Germans as they love to counter.
We could still get fourth but missing out on it to Villa isn’t as bad as the times we have missed out on it to the scum or Chelsea. It won’t hurt as much.
But if De Bruyne doesn't miss his sitter, they have to come out instead of sticking 10 men behind the ball, and then City are likely to exploit the space. As I said originally, I'll give them plenty of credit for their defending tonight and hanging on in there. They are brilliant at that. But considering the players they have I thought they were pretty poor from a pure footballing perspective. City only have themselves to blame at the end of the day.
If we get Europa League we'll play a weakened team to concentrate on qualifying for the champions league and get knocked early. That's what we do.
I thought they defended brilliantly tonight and limited city to mainly speculative efforts. Don't get the fuss about vinicius junior I've never seen him have a good game yet.
Fair enough.
But many fans use that style of argument in a genuine manner. Which is nonsense.
They just sat back with 9 or 10 players behind the ball for the majority of the game. Had City scored first it's a totally different result and scoreline. I just thought it was pretty poor from a side that has players like Bellingham, Vinicius Junior and Rodrygo, to be that defensive and offer so little going forward.
But as I said, they got through via the lottery of penalties and won't really care.