Missing out on CL could be catastrophic for us

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CL qualification is the biggest load of bollocks in world football. It doesn't affect which players you get and the revenues, although generous, only really kick in at the latter stages. They are dwarfed by overall PL money.

You get good players and managers by paying them lots and lots of money.

Do that, they'll come.
 
Buying players is mainly about money. You only have to look at when the likes of United or Chelsea miss out on CL or Europe all together, they still get their targets.

the CL was important to generate the cash flow to pay for the stadium. The rest of the debt is now financed out for many years and we are done. considering the scale of the stadium as well as the premium ticket prices no fan needs to accept the club not buying the players we need at the going rate.

the stadium was a genuine legitimate reason to be frugal, ENIC now have no legitimate excuses CL or no CL to not invest and get the players the club needs. While City and United are in a different league, we should be competing with Woolwich, Chelsea even Liverpool going forward.
 
thuder said:
We chose not to spend because of our stadium, which was a gamble depending on us retaining CL status. If we fail to get CL this year we would have to rebuild the squad without being able to attract CL level calibre of players or managers, which makes the decision not to spend look even more stupid. Some players may start getting their heads turned too and we will end up signing mediocre players hoping to get back into the CL again....
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Some people thought not spending was a good idea and wanted to see us rely on promoting youth.
Others, although not supporting it, still tried to justify it.
A few, like me, predicted the fucking mess that's unfolding before our eyes today.
 
There's no such thing as 'CL level players' anymore it's just down to who throws the most cash at a player. Woolwich / Utd / Chelsea have all bought expensive players when they have finished out of the top 4. On the other side we have bought fuck all whilst retaining top 4. Complete fallacy.
 
It won't be catastrophic as we don't spend at a level where the Champions League money is vital to us. Obviously having £50m-£100m less will make its mark in areas but the profit made from top 4 has always been safeguarded to ensure that we never fall flat on our face if we don't qualify.

It won't help that's for sure but I don't see it being catastrophic, it was bound to happen sooner or later with there being 6 teams pushing for those 4 places and a potential 7th now that Leicester look the part.
 
sammyspurs said:
Here’s all the players from Liverpool’s first team that NOBODY here would have wanted when they were available.

Allison
Roberston
Arnold (if he was offered to us from their academy)
Henderson
Firminho
Matip
Wijnaldum
Fabinho

WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

THEY BOUGHT ALL THE WORLD CLASS PLAYERS IN THE WORLD WAAAAAAHHHHH
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You think "NOBODY" on here would have wanted us to sign Allison, Firmino, Wijnaldum or Fabinho?

Are you on crack?
 
Breakdown of prize money for 2019/20 Champions League
  1. Reaching the group stages: 15 million euros
  2. Reaching the round of 16: 9.5 million euros
  3. Reaching the quarter-finals: 10.5 million euros
  4. Reaching the semi-finals: 12 million euros
  5. Reaching the final: 15 million euros
  6. Winning the final: 4 million euros

UEFA will also pay teams 2.7 million euros for every match they win and 900,000 euros for every match they draw.

Europa League
The Europa League is set up in a similar way to the Champions League, with teams being rewarded for progressing through the different stages, but there isn't nearly as much prize money on offer.

Breakdown of prize money for 2019/20 Europa League
  1. Reaching the group stages: 2.75 million euros
  2. Reaching the round of 32: 500,000 euros
  3. Reaching the round of 16: 1.1 million euros
  4. Reaching the quarter-finals: 1.5 million euros
  5. Reaching the semi-finals: 2.4 million euros
  6. Reaching the final: 4.5 million euros
  7. Winning the final: 4 million euros



The winners of the Champions League get the same as the winners of the Europa League?!! How the hell can both receive the same €4m? That doesn't make sense to me.


Also a ten year coefficient kicks in this year I believe, with around €585m of prize money to be distributed amongst the 32 teams. The lowest ranked gets €1m, the highest gets something like €35m. As it stands I think we are roughly 12th so if it stays that way it's roughly an extra €20m in our sky rockets, not to mention the TV revenue.

€3.6m already earned in result bonuses, hopefully a further €15m should we get out of the group, if we get a bit of fortune with the draw and pull a Leipzig or a Zenit then potentiallly a further €9.5m along with the €20m coefficient coin and we could easily end up with €50m BEFORE TV money. Get through the group stages and past the first knockout stage and that's Lo Celso paid for. Fucking hell no wonder Levy obsessed about us getting Champions League football for so long !
 
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John Thomas said:
Some people thought not spending was a good idea and wanted to see us rely on promoting youth.
Others, although not supporting it, still tried to justify it.
A few, like me, predicted the fucking mess that's unfolding before our eyes today.
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We warned of storms ahead. They told us "who do you drop", "spending ££ like city is a waste of time", Liverpool are crap", "LEEDS!".
We did all We could... We did all We could.
 
thuder said:
If 2 English clubs offered a player a similar wage they would 99% of the time choose the team that’s consistently been in the CL compared to the team playing Europa or not in Europe at all
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Nah. If it was between us and UTD, they'd chose UTD because they'll pay them £75k a week more in wages. And UTD are in the Europa. Woolwich still get players. Chelsea have been fine.

If we want to land who we want, we need to start regularly paying £200k a week. Obscene, yes. But the reality.
 
YAAAAAAAAWWWWWNNNNN

Have you cunts not seen how Poch treats new signings.
What, you think he’d have used the 2018 signings more than he’s using the 2019 ones?

Bore off cunts, the managers lost it and it’s plain to everyone.
 
SouthStand Billy said:
CL alone doesn’t define a club.
Liverpool missed out on a few occasions recently..Didn’t do them any harm..
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Agreed. I think we're in a position where we can afford to miss the CL this year and not suffer any major consequences. But we need to show the intent to rebuild and get better. Maybe Kane and Son can live for a year without playing in the CL, but I think it would be harder for them to accept that they wouldn't be able to compete for trophies.
 
John Thomas said:
I also think he's struggling to figure out who he could attract that would be willing to work under his constraints.
If Poch goes, it'll be an Eddie Howe type. Happy to take the glamour of managing Spurs but unlikely to ever come near the heights reached by Pochettino.
If Levy had backed his man when he was crying out for it last Summer, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
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You
Mention about him being backed in the summer, but it doesn’t matter who we buy if they are going to sit on the bench and poch continues To pick his favourites, we could have bought messi in the summer but what difference will he make when he gets a 3 minute cameo while losing 2-1?
 
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