It's not about positivity or negativity. It's about being realistic. Poch has ambitions to manage elsewhere and I have no problem with that. I don't, however, like the timing of these quotes. He has made some very loose comments already this season.
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He is a moody guy in general. Or maybe that's being harsh.He seemed pretty moody in that press conference.
I keep seeing this "looking for negatives" bollocks and I am sorry, I am as positive as they come about Spurs but that doesn't mean that positivity leaks into ignorance of reality.
I could say I think you are looking for positives, which I truly think you are because the quotes are right there to be seen, please tell me how they should be interpreted? Read the quote and then tell me what he meant by it?
Yes, his quotes do show that he will honour his contract because he made a promise to Levy, his quotes also show that he wanted to move to Madrid and the reason he didn't was because he made that promise to Levy and Levy wouldn't accept offers to talk about it, therefore Poch didn't want to kick up a stink because that's not how he operates, can you disprove what I am saying?
I agree with you that Poch is a good person and I also agree with you that he instills that philosophy into our players.
But I also think that Levy is not backing his man and that's why Poch is making it Crystal clear about what we need at this football club to improve.
You can be quite sure that Poch and Levy had conversations before the contract was signed - Levy saying We want you to stay and heare's another contract. Poch doesn't need to sign - he's still got an existing contract.
So Poch might think of other clubs, but decides to sign the contract with Spurs. Whilst I am sure there was more money in the contract, I'd suggest he signed it because he was quite happy at Spurs.
Why do you think he signed a new contract wth Spurs ?
Basically Liverpool's signings seem to match there style of play & seem to have some sort of plan behind them. Ours seem quite random & directionless. Llorente, Janssen, random French league wingers, extend crocked lamela contract.They've got a transfer committee there, and I think it is paying dividends. But my original point was that they favour players who, in addition to being able to play a bit, can play at a very high intensity because of their athletic ability. Don't be a micro-dick now, Guido 🇺🇦 -you had no problem praising them last night.
Ok maybe looking for negatives was a bit clichè but I really can't see what you're seeing sorry.
Madrid asked, he wouldn't break his contract, Levy wouldn't let him go, so he's still here!
I don't see anything about him wanting to go to Madrid.
I don't see anything about Levy not backing him. I've never seen or heard Poch or Levy say anything that tells me they are not on the same page. The only people who think that are on here, other social media or the media in general.
Exactly. They look for players who can implement Gegenpressing.Basically Liverpool's signings seem to match there style of play & seem to have some sort of plan behind them. Ours seem quite random & directionless. Llorente, Janssen, random French league wingers, extend crocked lamela contract.
People just struggle to compliment Liverpool which is understandable.
That's why they say on the 1 hand Liverpool have spent poorly. Yet on the other hand , klopp is doing a bad job with these poor players they have signed. So all that leaves is luck in nearly very game for them being so good this season. They have had luck but not every single win.
We also changed from our pressing style once we moved away from the old lane. It may have been due to the bigger dimensions of the pitch, pressing is harder when the pitch is larger. Liverpool can still do that at Anfield. I wonder if the Gegenpress would work on larger pitches?Exactly. They look for players who can implement Gegenpressing.
Because Levy likely made assurances to him that we will continue to improve and told him that he also wants to win titles and that he is ambitious, only to then not sign anybody and be let down, hence why Poch also said this in the same interview.
Is the priority to earn money or win titles?
MP: "The board will say they want to win titles but to do that you need to invest."
"But if you look at our bench and Ajax’s.. they have Huntelaar, Dolberg. Which striker did we have on the bench in the first leg?"
"What can you say about Tottenham-Ajax? We have players who are pushing their limits. That’s why there’s a high risk of picking up injuries because there isn’t anyone else available."
He has also said, numerous times this season, that the current project has now "finished" and in order for us to go forwards we need to start a "new project" now that the stadium is finished so we can match Liverpool and City in ambition and take the step to the next level.
I don't get your point.
He stayed cos he signed a contract and he will honour it.
How is that a bad thing?
Well he used it with Dortmund, and their pitch is 105m x 68m. Just checked and I see that Anfield is 101m x 68m.I wonder if the Gegenpress would work on larger pitches?
"The situation was difficult. It’s the dream of every coach to coach at one of the best teams that exist. And you have to say no. That’s tremendous."
Ok maybe looking for negatives was a bit clichè but I really can't see what you're seeing sorry.
Madrid asked, he wouldn't break his contract, Levy wouldn't let him go, so he's still here!
I don't see anything about him wanting to go to Madrid.
I don't see anything about Levy not backing him. I've never seen or heard Poch or Levy say anything that tells me they are not on the same page. The only people who think that are on here, other social media or the media in general.
I agree
I can’t see anywhere Poch saying that he wants to go to RM or anywhere else
Fair play.
So now the important thing is he is still here. Whether he wanted to go or not, the way the club is run means he didn't go.
And that's a good thing yes?
But what we subsequently did was go through a transfer window without signing anyone. It's a fluid situation.Whether he wanted to go or not, the way the club is run means he didn't go.
Two months ago, he said he wants to manage in Spain.I agree
I can’t see anywhere Poch saying that he wants to go to RM or anywhere else
“The situation was difficult. The dream of every coach was at stake: to lead the biggest team that exists,’ Pochettino reportedly told Spanish newspaper El Pais.”
Obviously he was interested. But once Levy said no that was it, he is not someone who will go back on his word in that way. Poch has always said his future is up to Levy. If he leaves in the future it will be because Levy agrees to it. He will not force his way out.
Two months ago, he said he wants to manage in Spain.