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Still hasn't posted in this thread since the news broke

And he's definitely active as always

:ange-facepalm:

Tbf I think he has this thread on ignore.

But can’t wait to hear his outrage elsewhere. He’s so steadfast against greed in footie that I can’t imagine he won’t be outraged!

Just like he was about the insider trading at the heart of our club, or us consulting with a fraud..

Oh. Oh wait.
 
Tbf I think he has this thread on ignore.

But can’t wait to hear his outrage elsewhere. He’s so steadfast against greed in footie that I can’t imagine he won’t be outraged!

Just like he was about the insider trading at the heart of our club, or us consulting with a fraud..

Oh. Oh wait.
Nah , he'd be all over this thread like a pig in shit if the club had announced a price freeze or heaven forbid a slight reduction
 
Tbf I think he has this thread on ignore.

But can’t wait to hear his outrage elsewhere. He’s so steadfast against greed in footie that I can’t imagine he won’t be outraged!

Just like he was about the insider trading at the heart of our club, or us consulting with a fraud..

Oh. Oh wait.
absolute scumbag

The removal of OAP pricing is beyond sick. It must yield less 200K. Just about what what bald cunt paid Nuno for every day of a truly disastrous employment

F you levy and all the bastards on here than think it’s funny to act as contrary Mary’s.
 
you can just imagine these cunts huddled in a board room, Levy giving Collecot a wrap around as that hag Donna reads out the spend trends of South Koreans vs OAP/concessions

People moan about Tories but these cunts are next level
 
If I didn’t know any better, I’d say they were trying to fuck off the older (loyal fanbase) crowd and creating room for more rich tourist types who’ll spend a load of dollar…
Was listening to The View From the Lane podcast with Danny Kelly earlier and he quoted someone he met or knew (can't remember) who said from the money point of view you don't want a stadium full of season ticket holders, who have their kit, largely drink at pubs they always have drunk at and don't go in the club shop each match.
The ideal is the tourist who travels to turn up to a match so is prepared to pay premium prices, visit the shop, buy a replica kit etc.
Makes you think...
 
It's a bit of outrage now but ultimately no one will remember this if we continue to progress.

That's why the board can get away with it, when you have distractions like Ange and what is seemingly like we are moving in the right direction which is giving fans hope then this will quickly be forgotten about.

People using this to stiffen their agendas against the board is understandable but people thinking that Tottenham fans will just suddenly turn on them are just utterley delusional, my point - ultimately no one gives a fuck, they haven't given a fuck in the past when he's done worse things and the same thing will happen when it happens again.

If I had a pound tor every time I heard 'this is the last straw' 'times up', 'the tide is turning' 😆 etc...I'd happily buy a bowl of porridge for £17 for every day of the rest of my life and not feel ripped off.
We currently haven't progressed, this time last year we were fourth. Maybe by the end of the year we may finish higher but I do agree with you nothing will happen, ENIC will carry on counting their money and doing the bare minimum and fans will keep moaning.
 
Was listening to The View From the Lane podcast with Danny Kelly earlier and he quoted someone he met or knew (can't remember) who said from the money point of view you don't want a stadium full of season ticket holders, who have their kit, largely drink at pubs they always have drunk at and don't go in the club shop each match.
The ideal is the tourist who travels to turn up to a match so is prepared to pay premium prices, visit the shop, buy a replica kit etc.
Makes you think...
The only issue with that is that the fans are part of the attraction. So eventually less proper fans less tourists.
 
We currently haven't progressed, this time last year we were fourth. Maybe by the end of the year we may finish higher but I do agree with you nothing will happen, ENIC will carry on counting their money and doing the bare minimum and fans will keep moaning.

We ended up 8th last season, do you think we'll finish par and lower than that this season?

Besides all that progression is linear, we have progressed as a club and we are in a much better place than we were last year.
 
We currently haven't progressed, this time last year we were fourth. Maybe by the end of the year we may finish higher but I do agree with you nothing will happen, ENIC will carry on counting their money and doing the bare minimum and fans will keep moaning.
Since the multi sports and entertainment arena was completed we've actually gone backwards....Massively
 
We ended up 8th last season, do you think we'll finish par and lower than that this season?

Besides all that progression is linear, we have progressed as a club and we are in a much better place than we were last year.
Have no idea if we will end up higher or not , my point was that we have not progressed as yet so in effect have not continued to progress as you stated.
There is a slightly happier feel about the place due to better football, but I am not sure we are in a much better place.
 
Massively? We’ve gone from not winning trophies before moving in to not winning trophies after! Nothing has changed.
We've gone from not winning trophies to not even competing for trophies.
Champions League regulars to ➡️ Europa League to ➡️ Conference Leage to ➡️ No European football whatsoever.
Sold one of the best, if not the best striker in the world, banked the money and replaced him with , errm ...a system 😆

The funny thing is, all those die hard ENIC enthusiasts were telling us for years that once the multi-purpose stadium was finished the complete opposite would happen.

We'd be competing with Europe's elite. We'd be competing for and winning major trophies again,. And we'd finally be competing for and signing the best players again.

Patience, they said

Now we're supposed to be grateful that we look like bettering last season's 8th place finish!
 
Have no idea if we will end up higher or not , my point was that we have not progressed as yet so in effect have not continued to progress as you stated.
There is a slightly happier feel about the place due to better football, but I am not sure we are in a much better place.

You think progression is exclusively tied to your position in the table, it's not.

Progression is things like improving on play style, manager, players, recruitment, staff... Then you have things like the academy, u21s etc...if you look at those things now we are in a much better place than where we were this time last year.

It's why the fans are generally happier these days because we have something to hold onto becsuse the future is looking brighter, much brighter than it was last year.
 
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Billionaire Joe Lewis Places a 34-Year-Old Atop Besieged Empire​

  • Co-CEO Josh Levy is taking on extra duties at Tavistock Group
  • Lewis is awaiting sentencing on insider-trading charges in US


Daniel Levy, right, and his son Josh Levy.

Daniel Levy, right, and his son Josh Levy.
Photographer: James Williamson/AMA/Getty Images
By Benjamin Stupples
7 March 2024 at 15:00 GMT+8
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When Joe Lewis bought a major stake in Tottenham Hotspur Football Club in 2000, he did so alongside Daniel Levy, the scion of a UK clothing business and father to a 10-year-old boy named Josh.
More than two decades later, Josh Levy, now 34, finds himself sitting atop Lewis’ empire, trying to navigate the fallout from the billionaire’s guilty plea to insider-trading charges in the US.
Levy recently was named co-chief executive officer of Lewis’ Tavistock Group, which has assets including five-star hotels, US restaurants and enclaves for the world’s rich. Along with fellow co-CEO Nick Beucher and Chairman Shehan Dissanayake, he’s among the leaders in the succession race for who calls the shots at the investment firm that helped Lewis build one of the UK’s biggest fortunes.
It’s a stark example of how the world’s ultra-rich keep a tight-knit circle of confidants around their fortune. Lewis’ children, Vivienne, 62, and Charles, 61, are both managing directors at Tavistock, with Charles previously working alongside Daniel Levy, 62, at another company from 1998 to 2008. One of Lewis’ granddaughters, Alexandra, a physician, has also served as a medical director for Tavistock’s real estate development arm.

Behind the scenes, Tavistock’s day-to-day operations haven’t changed since Lewis’ guilty plea in January, with the current management team running the company, a spokesperson said. The Bahamas-based firm declined to make Levy, who joined in 2016, available for an interview.
A succession plan has been underway for years, predating Lewis’ legal troubles, the spokesperson said. No additional alterations to the plan are currently being considered, according to a person with knowledge of the matter, who asked not to be identified as the details are private.
Lewis, 87, who has a net worth of about $7.3 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, is scheduled to be sentenced in federal court in New York in early April.
Tavistock named Levy as co-CEO along with Beucher in September, two months after federal prosecutors charged Lewis with insider trading.
In December, Levy replaced Dissanayake on the board of Australian Agricultural Co., a Queensland-based beef producer identified in the insider-trading indictment against Lewis. The company hasn’t been accused of wrongdoing. Beucher, Dissanayake and Levy are also part of Tavistock’s board and executive committee.
Lewis “was part of my family my entire life,” Levy said in a 2021 interview. “I got to know him from a friend and an advisory perspective.”
Levy’s Tavistock roles date back almost a decade. He’s served since 2015 as a director of UK pub operator Mitchell & Butlers Plc, in which the firm has a roughly $500 million holding, starting while he was still an investment banker at Investec specialising in UK deals.
The following year, he became Tavistock’s investment director and was appointed CEO in 2019 of Ultimate Finance, a UK bridge-financing firm backed by Tavistock. He still holds that position and led the Bristol, England-based firm to reporting a loan portfolio of more than £310 million ($395 million) at year-end, a 10% increase from 12 months earlier.

Still, financing small-to-medium-sized British companies represents just a fraction of Tavistock’s businesses. That underscores the challenges Levy faces as co-CEO of Lewis’ sprawling empire, leading some observers to question the onetime banker’s credentials.

“He’s appointed someone who has been head of a division,” said Christina Wing, founder of Wingspan Legacy Partners, an advisory firm to ultra-wealthy families. “But that doesn’t mean he knows how to run a multibillion-dollar empire.”

Discretionary Trust​

Despite its long-term association with Lewis, Tottenham Hotspur has largely avoided the fallout of the billionaire’s insider-trading case. In 2022, Lewis transferred his majority stake in the team he’s supported since childhood to a discretionary trust. That ended decades of him being the direct owner of the club, where Daniel Levy is currently chairman.

Tottenham Owner Joe Lewis Surrenders in Insider Trading Case

Joe LewisSource: Bloomberg
Team representatives still moved swiftly to distance themselves from Lewis following the release of the charges against him in July, repeatedly describing the case to media outlets as an unrelated legal matter and outlining the recent changes in the club’s ownership structure.
Tottenham Hotspur — which still features prominently on Tavistock’s website under key investments — is worth about £2.4 billion, according to research from Football Benchmark. That compares with a valuation of about £73 million when Lewis and the elder Levy took control more than two decades ago.
Daniel Levy and his family’s Tottenham Hotspur stake, which is also held in a trust, is worth more than £600 million based on the team’s current valuation, underscoring how their association with Lewis has turbocharged their fortune after selling their discount clothing chain in 2006.

Bahamas Advisers​

When calculating the net worth of Lewis and his family, the Bloomberg Billionaires Index still attributes them a majority stake in Tottenham Hotspur, due to him being Tavistock’s founder and his relatives being beneficiaries of the trust that controls the holding. That stake is worth about £1.5 billion, based on Football Benchmark’s latest valuations.
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Two professionals based in the Bahamas — Katie Booth and Bryan Glinton — oversee the Lewis family’s Tottenham Hotspur trust and are now cited as persons with significant control of the club. Booth is an adviser on international asset structuring for private entrepreneurs, while Glinton is a veteran lawyer who has previously served as an adviser to Tavistock and Albany, a 600-acre gated community in the Bahamas that’s among Lewis’ largest investments.

A representative for Tottenham Hotspur declined to comment.
Read More: Tottenham Hotspur Chairman Levy Is Open to Stake Sale
In a rare public statement, Tavistock said in January it has retained law firm Sidley Austin to review its compliance programs in an effort led by the US Department of Justice’s former top criminal official.
Whatever happens with Tavistock going forward, Levy has made it clear he isn’t going to his allow relative youth to be an impediment.
“I have been trusted from a young age,” Levy said in the 2021 interview for content marketing firm Raconteur. “Age is just a number.”

— With assistance from David Hellier
 
I can’t remember when they started the season ticket list.
Late 90s it was a piece of piss to get tickets.
Think around 2008/2009 they started the waiting list maybe?

As for noise I think depending where you sat in the old stadium had the biggest impact.
Paxton road family stand was quiet. Hence the paxton Give us a song chant
West stand - posh and quiet.
East stand - mainly moany fuckers and noisy towards the south stand
Lower South stand. A good laugh but rarely non stop noise.

On the occasions it did go off in each stand there though it was a cauldron of noise. I think it’s easy for people to remember those nights and not stoke 0-0 on a Tuesday night.

And it’s just very sanitised nowadays. Tourists, families, OAPs, blokes with guitars in the concourse and a much nicer environment overall. That’s premier league football. That’s what you pay your money for. It’s pure entertainment.
I think you also have to factor in it’s a different type of product. 90s football in England much more direct, more crossing more end to end etc. More up and at them. Todays game has moved into a new place. And with it more onlookers who might be interested in shape and tactics and high/low block etc.
 
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