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It's late, Ive had a long day, so I'll keep this brief.

What was perhaps lost in amongst all the ref being a cunt stuff, I think, was the fact that Leicester actually, plain and simple, out tactic'd and outplayed us for big chunks of today.

And I don't often say this about any team against us, and even rarer teams from the middle of the table.

This 41212 diamond was really poor in application, with no Kane or Alli, there's very little presence or creative interplay. Llorente is very static and predictable and Son is almost the opposite, very lively but incredibly erratic, he's capable of explosive moments of productivity but also a lot of bumbling about, he rarely does anything in a composed fashion. For most of this game neither Skipp or Sissoko, the two occupying the 8 remits, offered any creative interplay either (contrast with Tielemans for example who played several incisive passes), this left Eriksen with virtually the sole creative remit, and he's really missing the presence of Kane and Alli to bounce off, to hold up, interact and share the creative load.

Puel set Leicester up in a kind of 4141 but unlike many team that come here and just try to stifle and counter, Leicester actually played football, several times outplaying us in midfield - mostly on Sissoko's side - and opening us up. First half we had more possession, second half they had 55%.

Yes, they played a couple of balls inside Tripper, but they also played one inside Sissoko, and one inside Rose that lead to their goal. There was no "targeting' of Trippier, they just outplayed us in midfield and repeatedly got behind us.

They played much cleverer attacking football than we did, Madison and Tielemans providing the kind of midfield incision that Sissoko and especially Skipp failed miserably to do for us. We made 9 key passes as a team, Madison made 7 on his own, and Leicester made 19, more than double ours, they also had 20 shots to our 12, 9 on target to our 5. We scored three goals with an x/g of 1.26, theirs was 2.76

Poch really needed to react to what was happening, switch up the diamond maybe into a 4231 with Skipp and Winks sitting, Eriksen as the 10 and Sissoko ARM, or go orthodox 433, dropping Eriksen back and pushing Sissoko into the front three, with Son WLF, but getting both him and Sissoko to track their full backs. The way this played out they just swamped out midfield, we had no-one showing, holding and bringing others into forward areas and as a result couldn't retain the ball in their third or create chances, especially second half.

Luckily for us, Eriksen came up with a nice assist and cracking goal, but even the rest of his day was pretty meh by his standards, Leicester completely snuffing him out, the excellent Ndidi keeping him very quiet - although it was Ndidi's blunder from Sissoko's hopeful pass that ultimately helped us finally seal the deal, allowing Son to canter from our own half all the way to their penalty box as they were piled forward trying to equalise.

The only two players to really come out of this game with much credit were Lloris, who finally saved a penalty and made a couple of other really good stops, Sanchez, who was excellent throughout, several times putting his pace to good use, but was also calm under pressure with the ball too (63 passes 91% second best behind Winks) and Winks who once again held things together, got through a shit load of ball and is also improving his defensive play, game by game.

Players

Lloris - Great penalty save, very good game.

Trippier - Positioning was poor for the first chance for Brooks, but after that just got caught out like others did by our poor pressing ahead of him and inability to stop them playing through us.

Sanchez - Very good game, using his pace well and staying calm under pressure.

Vertonghen - Pretty decent, tough day though.

Rose - Decent enough, got done by a ball inside for their goal but no different to the other side, there was little he could do about it, it was just good football.

Sissoko/Skipp/Eriksen - This wasn't a bad performance by Sissoko's standards, and he finished with an assist, albeit helped by Ndidi committing harry carry and Son still needing to run half the pitch, and Eriksen curled a lovely assist for Sanchez's goal and scored a cracker, but none of these three contributed enough for most of the 90 minutes. Skipp's a kid having his second start, so he gets plenty of latitude, but Eriksen and Sissoko really needed to provide more imputes to this game, but they weren't helped by the poor structure and tactics.

Winks - Becoming a vital component of the way we play. Another very good game.

Son - Goal aside, which was great, he was poor today, got himself offside (as often does) too often, flitted about and was really flimsy without the ball too, allowing players to go past him too easily and not dropping in and helping an outnumbered midfield enough.

Llorente - He worked hard by his standards, and showed some decent touches, but we miss Kane's energy and hold up play enormously.
 
Yes, they played a couple of balls inside Tripper, but they also played one inside Sissoko, and one inside Rose that lead to their goal. There was no "targeting' of Trippier, they just outplayed us in midfield and repeatedly got behind us.
FORTY-SEVEN!!!!!!!! per cent, that's 47%!!!!! of their build-up came down their left. THEY TARGETED HIM!
 
It's late, Ive had a long day, so I'll keep this brief.

What was perhaps lost in amongst all the ref being a cunt stuff, I think, was the fact that Leicester actually, plain and simple, out tactic'd and outplayed us for big chunks of today.

And I don't often say this about any team against us, and even rarer teams from the middle of the table.

This 41212 diamond was really poor in application, with no Kane or Alli, there's very little presence or creative interplay. Llorente is very static and predictable and Son is almost the opposite, very lively but incredibly erratic, he's capable of explosive moments of productivity but also a lot of bumbling about, he rarely does anything in a composed fashion. For most of this game neither Skipp or Sissoko, the two occupying the 8 remits, offered any creative interplay either (contrast with Tielemans for example who played several incisive passes), this left Eriksen with virtually the sole creative remit, and he's really missing the presence of Kane and Alli to bounce off, to hold up, interact and share the creative load.

Puel set Leicester up in a kind of 4141 but unlike many team that come here and just try to stifle and counter, Leicester actually played football, several times outplaying us in midfield - mostly on Sissoko's side - and opening us up. First half we had more possession, second half they had 55%.

Yes, they played a couple of balls inside Tripper, but they also played one inside Sissoko, and one inside Rose that lead to their goal. There was no "targeting' of Trippier, they just outplayed us in midfield and repeatedly got behind us.

They played much cleverer attacking football than we did, Madison and Tielemans providing the kind of midfield incision that Sissoko and especially Skipp failed miserably to do for us. We made 9 key passes as a team, Madison made 7 on his own, and Leicester made 19, more than double ours, they also had 20 shots to our 12, 9 on target to our 5. We scored three goals with an x/g of 1.26, theirs was 2.76

Poch really needed to react to what was happening, switch up the diamond maybe into a 4231 with Skipp and Winks sitting, Eriksen as the 10 and Sissoko ARM, or go orthodox 433, dropping Eriksen back and pushing Sissoko into the front three, with Son WLF, but getting both him and Sissoko to track their full backs. The way this played out they just swamped out midfield, we had no-one showing, holding and bringing others into forward areas and as a result couldn't retain the ball in their third or create chances, especially second half.

Luckily for us, Eriksen came up with a nice assist and cracking goal, but even the rest of his day was pretty meh by his standards, Leicester completely snuffing him out, the excellent Ndidi keeping him very quiet - although it was Ndidi's blunder from Sissoko's hopeful pass that ultimately helped us finally seal the deal, allowing Son to canter from our own half all the way to their penalty box as they were piled forward trying to equalise.

The only two players to really come out of this game with much credit were Lloris, who finally saved a penalty and made a couple of other really good stops, Sanchez, who was excellent throughout, several times putting his pace to good use, but was also calm under pressure with the ball too (63 passes 91% second best behind Winks) and Winks who once again held things together, got through a shit load of ball and is also improving his defensive play, game by game.

Players

Lloris - Great penalty save, very good game.

Trippier - Positioning was poor for the first chance for Brooks, but after that just got caught out like others did by our poor pressing ahead of him and inability to stop them playing through us.

Sanchez - Very good game, using his pace well and staying calm under pressure.

Vertonghen - Pretty decent, tough day though.

Rose - Decent enough, got done by a ball inside for their goal but no different to the other side, there was little he could do about it, it was just good football.

Sissoko/Skipp/Eriksen - This wasn't a bad performance by Sissoko's standards, and he finished with an assist, albeit helped by Ndidi committing harry carry and Son still needing to run half the pitch, and Eriksen curled a lovely assist for Sanchez's goal and scored a cracker, but none of these three contributed enough for most of the 90 minutes. Skipp's a kid having his second start, so he gets plenty of latitude, but Eriksen and Sissoko really needed to provide more imputes to this game, but they weren't helped by the poor structure and tactics.

Winks - Becoming a vital component of the way we play. Another very good game.

Son - Goal aside, which was great, he was poor today, got himself offside (as often does) too often, flitted about and was really flimsy without the ball too, allowing players to go past him too easily and not dropping in and helping an outnumbered midfield enough.

Llorente - He worked hard by his standards, and showed some decent touches, but we miss Kane's energy and hold up play enormously.
Bollocks analysis.
That could of been pulled out of a cornflakes packet with a free gift of football quotes in it.
Ten out of ten for verbosity and two on the basis that if you throw enough hackneyed comments into a box a couple might fall right.
I sat on the halfway line and Sissoko''s performance was nothing like you described. For significant sections of the game we had them hemmed in - in a massed defence and all of their progress was due to Skipp's non show initially and momentum afterwards. We have them too much space but all they did was prove that it was safe to do so.
I can't be bothered with the rest of your tosh
You just don't understand football.
 
Luck be a lady tonight .

This was like the Man Utd second half game in reverse . How we didn't pull that one out of the bag was criminal . Today Leicester must feel the same . Outplayed but lady luck was with us .
Midfield was sliced through like butter , collectively poor . 3 points but blimey it was a hard watch.

Llioris , saved the day , 8.
Trippier , constantly out positioned , 3
Sanchez , good goal , 6
Verts, 6
Rose, at least he,was a outlet , 5
Skipps, taking age away he was ineffective 3
Sissoko , 5
Winks 5
Eriksen , at least some creativity 6
Son , erratic but a threat 6
Liorente , offered so little , my granny upfront would have been more threatening 3.

Poch , played his get out of jail card .4
 
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Where's the MotM poll?
Great write up and analysis but it's incomplete without a poll.
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No, it's also a consequence also of our narrow diamond, it invites a team to attack through these channels. BUT 47% came down his flank, not Rose's (although they also tried that side too). Ask your self why they favoured Tripp's flank and not Roses and the answer as to how the oppo views the quality of our FB's is laid bare. And yes their goal came from getting behind Rose before anyone pipes up. Just wish bus-conductor bus-conductor stopped trying to rewrite history to protect himself from his love affair with one of our worst players in the side.

Can't disagree with your point. But Poch is clearly positioning Trippier very high up the field so he knows its inviting Leicester to put the ball behind Trippier - and Poch does it in a regular basis.

IMO it would be better to have Trippier play that way with 3 CB's to give more cover when Leicester put balls behind. But Poch doesn't, and I can't believe he's not considered that.

So I can only assume Poch wants (1) To get Trippier's attacking input and crosses and (2) to encourage Leicester to attack giving Spurs more opportunity to attack than if Leicester parked the bus.

If so, the tactics paid off as Leicester didn't have players capable of finishing, whereas Spurs did.
 
some very generous ratings on here. I thought it was just about our worst performance of the season.
Second half they were literally creating chance after chance; not through any incredible attacking play, but just because there were holes everywhere.
 
Then again, apparently we were lucky to win to some.
This narrative is all over the place, the media, our fans, even vaguely hinted at by our players. How good Leicester were, how they deserved to win, I just don't get it.

I thought we were the better team overall and took our chances well. They didn't, and were ridiculously favoured by the referee.

Really glad you said that, I thought I was the only one. They played well, better than a lot of visitors, but the cooing about their performance seems way, way over the top.

The world's reverted to Fairytale Mode Totti!
 
Lloris 10: flawless performance so maximum rating
Trippier 5: Always looked a bit suspect defensively
Sanchez 8: Best performance I can remember from him
Vertonghen 6: Ok. Clumsy challenge for the pen
Rose 7: Offers so much more than Davies. Good game
Winks 8: Another good performance
Son 6: Great run and finish for the goal. Otherwise not great
Sissoko 8: Starting to really stamp his authority
Skipp 4: Anonymous. Looked way out of his depth
Eriksen 8: Always a threat. Great finish. Pay the man his worth.
Llorente 5: Offered very little
 
Sissoko was MoTM for me by a long stretch in terms of outfield players. Winks and then Rose behind him.

Then Sanchez , Eriksen, Vertoghen and Son for differing reasons behind that trio.

Skipp is too inexperienced, Trippier better but not as good as he needs to be and Llorente just added physical presence but lacks belief in his ability.

Lloris was very good, Tielemans near miss aside.

Leicester are good in the midfield and elements of their attacking play was excellent. Remember they deservedly beat City.

Vardy all day long for us as a number 2 to Kane would make us very strong in that department in my opiniion.
 
So far so good. You seem to be acknowledging this is a tactical issue.



It's this utter fictitious garbage I have an issue with. He is only marginally just behind Eriksen as our best key passer - both of them nearly double the next nearest players - that's got fuck all to do with crosses, that's passing to people that results in chances for them.

In terms of assists, over the last three years, he's been by far our most productive player after Eriksen:

Minutes per assist:

Eriksen 237
Trippier 324
Son 337
Alli 401
Lamela 441
Kane 577
Davies 591
Rose 684
Sissoko 771
Moura 1656

Outside of our centre backs, nobody sees that ball or makes more passes in our team per game than Trippier, making almost double Rose does, but still completing fractionally more of them. This is also a reason why our right side is slightly more vulnerable at times, because Trippier is more involved in our build up play.

But here's the thing, I've shown you that over the course of last season we conceded less chances down our right than we did our left. So either Trippier's a world class defender (even I don't think that), because despite being "targeted" his position conceded less chances, or your theory is a bit out of whack?

Pochettino wants him to cross the ball sometimes, if he didn't want him too, he wouldn't be, Pochettino would drop him for one of our other two right backs, Rose crosses the ball too, just that Trippier's crosses are generally better than Rose's. And Trippier, factually passes the ball more than Rose, and creates more chances than Rose.

All I’ve ever said is you have to take a balanced view and factor in the way we play, the way we use FB’s, the fact that we’ve had shit right sided cm’s for two years, and generally a weak midfield for the last two years, and the productive pay offer get with Trippier against his weaknesses.
He is shite.
 
For this to actually confirm your narrative we'd need to know whether this is normal for us, normal for Leicester, what happens usually in their matches and our matches and other influences (such as does the opposition have stronger players left or right etc and which of our sides do we expose more by our attacking preferences etc).

Have you got a link to where you are getting this 47% from so I could have a look at other games?

I wish you'd stop this silly BC loves Trippier bollocks. I just happen to not hate him like you do and try not to feed everything int an anti Trippier narrative.

I don't think Trippier is a brilliant defender, but I don't think Rose is either. And I know Walker wasn't - he's been heavily criticised lately by Guardiola, his own fans and called out publicly by people like Ferdinand in the media.

But to a degree, this is the lot of the attacking full back in the modern game. I just seem to grasp this better than you.

Trippier was the only defender I criticised for a mistake yesterday. I can't find where you got your stat from, but I can see they did have more play down our right, but they also had plenty down our left too.

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You've also got to take into account the players Leicester used yesterday compared to other games. I watched a fair old bit of West Brom this season and Harvey Barnes was used a lot for them a season an attacking outlet.

With no Vardy in the starting XI and with Barnes only just coming back to Leicester from his loan it's hard to say if it was the targeting of our weak areas they were trying to exploit more or due to their personnel etc.

I do think we need a couple of new fullbacks either side as I don't see enough of the ones we have, bar when Rose goes on one of his runs that offers anywhere near enough in defence or going forward but I don't know/ think Leicester targeted Trippier yesterday.

One thing to note as well is that for all of our supposed frailties we have scored the 3rd most goals in the league and conceded the 3rd lowest, only 5 goals behind City in 2nd so it can't be as bad as some believe it to be both ends of the field
 
It is a deliberate tactic, always has been no matter who the FB/WB is. If you want to attack us there are two main routes, a) Space behind FB's or between CB & FB b) ball over the top of our high-line. By & large we have these areas locked down, we expect these balls and deal with the vast majority of attacks, even if they result with a few last-ditch tackles or 1v1 situations and Lloris sweeping up.
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Ok glad we are in agreement on that part.

Against lower PL sides (and Leicester are probably at around the border of the lower PL sides and the better PL sides (and I might even include Wolves in that list these days), the tactics probably work in enticing teams to play rather than park the bus - or their forwards are not good enough to take advantage and if they do our forwards are good enough to score (as shown by our scoring 3rd highest goals in PL). But I think that Trippier does have a positive attacking threat against those sides.

But against the better PL sides those tactics are much higher risk. Poch could tell Trippier to take a less high position up the pitch, or even forgo the attacking side of his game and just defend, but I don't think Poch does, so its a risk Poch seems prepared to take (and as I have said before against better sides to include Trippier the risk needs lowering by using 3 CB's) .

However Poch is still picking Trippier as no 1 RB regardless of the opposition (and maybe he shares my view that Aurier is bang average and has no advantages over Trippier) and (against my judgement) doesn't seem to trust Walker-Peters as RB which is why he's only started abut a dozen games in 3 years (my guess is Poch is concerned .KWP has not yet developed physically as much as Poch would like).

So I think for the rest of the season, unless Poch starts to play KWP nothing will change, In the summer I certainly hope we upgrade Aurier, and quite possibly Trippier (but in that order)
 
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Danny Rose - MOTM for talking straight smack in Vardy’s ear when he was about to take the penalty.

Lloris - did his thang on a couple of those stops

Missed the game from the 70th min on
 
But it was his fault that he had to handle 2 or 3 people at once?
No, it's also a consequence also of our narrow diamond, it invites a team to attack through these channels. BUT 47% came down his flank, not Rose's (although they also tried that side too). Ask your self why they favoured Tripp's flank and not Roses and the answer as to how the oppo views the quality of our FB's is laid bare. And yes their goal came from getting behind Rose before anyone pipes up. Just wish bus-conductor bus-conductor stopped trying to rewrite history to protect himself from his love affair with one of our worst players in the side.
 
I think Blakey’s analysis is fairly spot on. It was a hard watch. During the game I couldn’t decide whether it was Leicester playing well above their usual levels or us being poor. I still can’t so I suppose it’s a bit of both.

Hugo, Dave and Winks the standout performers. Sissoko and Rose has very good moments.

However, they cut through us far too easily and on far too many occasions. Something for the manager to sort out. On that I thought Poch handled the last 25 mins poorly. Changes in shape and throwing on defensive personnel added to the chaos but he would argue we got the win (somehow!).

It’s a sign of a good team to find ways to win when playing poorly or not at the usual levels - Fulham, Watford, Newcastle and Leicester - and I’m pleased and proud of our team for doing this when in the past we would’ve crumbled. I hope we see a return to swashbuckling ways with Kane and Alli back....
 
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