True. I think Archer will generally take most of his chances but Carsley did something different and when you win a tournament you can't argue with it really. I think we were wasteful throughout the tournament as we finished with 11 goals in total but could have had double that if players had shown a bit more composure in front of goal. We missed a number of what you would consider sitters or very close to. But most of them will go on to improve that side of their game.
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True. I think Archer will generally take most of his chances but Carsley did something different and when you win a tournament you can't argue with it really. I think we were wasteful throughout the tournament as we finished with 11 goals in total but could have had double that if players had shown a bit more composure in front of goal. We missed a number of what you would consider sitters or very close to. But most of them will go on to improve that side of their game.
Scottish ??
Nope. Just drunk.
Sylvain Ripoll dismissed as France U21 manager - Get French Football News
After another disappointing tournament campaign at this summer's Euros, France U21 manager Sylvain Ripoll has this Monday been dismissed from his position by
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Let’s hope DD goes the same way soon.
DD has reached 3 finals, been knocked out on penalties twice, and been knocked out by the eventual winners 1-0. That is an astonishingly good record. I think he can play better football but I don’t see any international teams over the past decade play great football. It’s about control and différence makers.Sylvain Ripoll dismissed as France U21 manager - Get French Football News
After another disappointing tournament campaign at this summer's Euros, France U21 manager Sylvain Ripoll has this Monday been dismissed from his position by
Let’s hope DD goes the same way soon.
Happy SR has gone.
I think if he didn’t have such an outstanding squad that would be acceptable, but he does and it’s a bit like saying a PSG manager is doing well for one championship win and two runners ups and finished in the Europa places on gd a couple of times.
It sounds good without context. And the football has been unbelievably reactive/negative at times.
And the guy that appointed him and kept him in a job was a twat who’s now been sacked.
Bit of a poor comparison. France have the best/deepest squad in international football but not by some insane gap like PSG have in Ligue 1.
International tournaments are incredibly hard to win - very little prep time, every two years, they've had injuries to key players etc.
The style related criticisms are fair but I struggle to think of any NT who plays really good football at tournaments. Players are incredibly nervous, quite often tired, extreme heat is often a factor & there is very little in the way of chemistry.
And even if you get rid, the elite coaches who have a really progressive style in mind generally don't want to coach international football. You'll likely end up with a Zidane who will do the same - make them solid and reliant on the incredible individual talent.
Can’t put it better
I take the point about international managers, who are invariably guys who for one reason or another can’t get a top club job, but it’s not impossible to get a half decent one who can only play reactive bus park football.
The last two major tournaments have been won by an aggressive, proactive Argentina (Scaloni) and Italy (Mancini). Germany (Low & Flick) and Spain (Del Bosque & Enrique) both tried to play proactive football with Germany and Spain both winning trophies while doing so. Croatia have been incredibly successful playing mostly decent football.
France could easily find a coach who could be much more proactive. And maybe they’d have actually won more than one trophy (which even in that game they were outplayed for large chunks).
I disagree about how far ahead the quality of their squad is, or at least has been for the last few years. They could have won a tournament with their reserve 11.
None of the traditional big nations have been strong for 4-6 years.
I honestly thought Argentina were mostly a lot of busy work and get the ball to Messi. And loads of penalties. Maybe I need to rewatch them a bit. Italy won a tournament on penalties but then have fallen off a cliff since so they’re a mixed bag.
I also found Spain in their prime incredibly boring to watch. I know we have disagreed on this before, but they had the biggest talent gap I’ve seen and won games 1-0 more than any team I have ever seen. Germany under Low were definitely good to watch, but bar a couple of games demonstrably more so than France? Not sure, I’d have to go back and watch.
Flick’s been a disaster as Germany coach so far. Croatia are a good point but feels like they too have had a lot of games where nerve and grit have got them through boring games, but the expectations are lower.
France could probably find a coach who would play nicer football. Whether in a tournament environment it would be any more successful is debatable imo. I think these tournaments are much more skewed towards ‘get the basics right’ coaches, whether that’s a result of those being the only managers who are interested or the nature of the competitions I couldn’t say for sure.
We disagree on how far ahead France are so won’t get in to it as don’t feel like it goes anywhere, ‘‘tis just an agree to disagree point. I certainly would agree they’ve had the best team in the world for a while but then two cup finals and a WC in that period is good going. Two of those tournaments lost by a total fluke wonder goal by fucking Eder and penalties. Fine ass margins.