Jim McLean had an aura and respect with his players after there careers had finished Dave Bowman if your familiar with Scottish football was hardly a shrinking violent, he’d accompanied Jim McLean to a function he had a pint but asked permission to have another. Fully grown adultAye, his wife Cathy had the final say I believe. Happy wife, happy life I suppose. I do also think he wanted to win another European trophy too. He’d won the Cup Winners Cup in 83, the Super Cup in 84 (as well as the League and Cup double) and had came close in Europe again. So I doubt it was all down to her.
Sliding doors for both clubs as we ended up with Peter Shreeves and Aberdeen eventually suffered the nightmare of Ian Porterfield. The odd high point aside, pretty much unfulfilled promise from both clubs for the past almost forty years.
Jim McLean was amazing, yes. He was a scary fucker. Looked quite mild mannered until he opened his mouth and had a look that he could put on that turned you to stone. Remember being a ball boy once at an Aberdeen v United match. Must have been 11 years old maybe? just before kick off, he wandered up to me smiling, the turned that look on and growled “no fucking about son, I’m fucking watching you”, keep the gaze on me for what seemed like a month and then strode off. I shat myself. Think I was still shaking the following week.
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Strangely these clips made me happier about Ange. Good reminder it does not happen all at once and a similar belife in how you play being as important on occasion as the result( just not this Sunday)
Dave Bowman was a fucking lunatic on the pitch. The thought of him asking permission to have a pint does raise a chuckle.
I see Paul Hegarty quite often these days. He has some fantastic stories about life at Dundee United back then. Only serve as confirmation of what you think was going on back then.
Scotland then Narey (lucky toe poke) & Hegarty , Miller & McLeish , Levein, Hansen, Evans (villa) no old firm players in the mix scotland blessed with central defenders early 80sDave Bowman was a fucking lunatic on the pitch. The thought of him asking permission to have a pint does raise a chuckle.
I see Paul Hegarty quite often these days. He has some fantastic stories about life at Dundee United back then. Only serve as confirmation of what you think was going on back then.
Midfield and attack not too shabby then either. No idea why we didn’t do more as a national team.
Fuck your “lucky toe poke” though. Wonderful goal. Seem to recall every goal in that match was top quality.
That Scotland team also had Dalglish and Souness. They basically had the 3 best players in the best team in Europe at the time (Liverpool). Plus Strachan, Robertson, Archibald and a few others. Plus a legend manager in Jock Stein.
They still did nothing. They’ve never had any team as strong since.
World Cup in 82 scotland had a good team they players you mentioned but managed to fuck it up, Ferguson was maybe assistant to Stein ?
Not at that point.