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Spursidol said:
By definition all home grown players have come from PL - and if any sold abroad later, almost certainly the better ones will be even more expensive than just buying HG players from PL.

Just a question of identifying the best HG players and the club's situation and buy appropriately (eg Maddison at £40m is not an expensive player for what he can do despite being HG)
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All the stars were aligned with the Madders transfer, it's not something that will happen too often. We finished 8th only Newcastle were seemingly in for him and he wanted to come to London.
 
Spursidol said:
But that ONLY works in a sport with NO relegation or promotion, as each of PL, Championship, League 1, National League and amateur leagues operate with very different expenditure levels.
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It would work in a reunified Football League. The key would be revenue distribution reaching all the way into the National League, and balancing the spending levels appropriately. Spending at League 2 is low enough, it can be made to work.
 
MemphisWill said:
I don't get how going hard on Everton is going to teach City a lesson. But that's what the authorities want you to believe, sure.

The reality is, City's previous blatant doping (like Chelsea when Abramovich took over) has baked in their advantage now. Strict FFP won't even hurt them anymore.

The way to fix the competitive balance is a more socialist structure with large scale revenue sharing and a fixed spending cap.
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I don’t think that was the point. They went hard on Everton because they completely took the piss out of a very simple rule. They posted something like a 280m three year loss against an allowed 105m. And they did it to get an advantage that could well have seen them relegated and others stay in the PL otherwise.
 
MemphisWill said:
Being an NFL fan makes following an EPL team look like child's play. Its nearly impossible to attend an NFL game even in the gods for under £250+. ST prices are easily 10X the cost for less than half the matches. It's a completely different ticketing system. In the US a massive percentage of the season tickets are owned by ticket brokerage companies - legalised touts.

It's not apples for apples, and that's not what I'm proposing.
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I wasn't assuming everything is like for like, but like i say; without a complete economic re-model that favours of the fans I'm not interested.

MemphisWill said:
What is wrong with equalized spending? You say that you want the right to win, profit off that success, and build an even larger advantage on the back of that.

That's basically what's happened in Spain with Madrid and Barca, and Germany with Bayern. I'd submit that it hasn't made football better in those countries, but worse.
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Closer to home, historically it's been more cyclical. The perfect example being 70s/80s Liverpool..... Yes the petro cunts have been a detrimental spanner in the works; but again, the error was allowing it to happen in the first place.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Equalised spending in Sport is cool in a franchise league like the US.

Relegation and promotion complicates it a bit though.

It’s also a bit forced and kills the romance of giant killing when everyone has the same ability to spend.
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6/10 titles being bought by City, 8/10 bought by City+Chelsea. How romantic!

Giant killing is basically dead. You might get an odd result here or there, but basically every trophy is won by the same clubs. Wigan and Portsmouth in the FA Cup - 2 wins basically a quarter of the way through this century.
 
MemphisWill said:
6/10 titles being bought by City, 8/10 bought by City+Chelsea. How romantic!

Giant killing is basically dead. You might get an odd result here or there, but basically every trophy is won by the same clubs. Wigan and Portsmouth in the FA Cup - 2 wins basically a quarter of the way through this century.
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Leicester was only so long ago.

That Liverpool have been City's closest rivals over their most dominant period (rather than Chavs or United) also speaks contrary to that claim.......

Relative 'Giant killing' also happens up and down the pyramid in one capacity or another every weekend.
 
Airfixx said:
I wasn't assuming everything is like for like, but like i say; without a complete economic re-model that favours of the fans I'm not interested.



Closer to home, historically it's been more cyclical. The perfect example being 70s/80s Liverpool..... Yes the petro cunts have been a detrimental spanner in the works; but again, the error was allowing it to happen in the first place.
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In the final 20 years of the First Division, 9 clubs won the title. In the past 20 years of the Premier League 5 clubs have won, and only 3 clubs have won in the past 10.

This is sustained monopolization of silverware at a level which has never been seen.
 
5purs said:
Austin, Davies, Forster, Johnson, Maddison, Skipp, Sessegnon, Whiteman

That's the list of home grown players currently in the squad

We could do with replacing one or two of those homegrown players, no?
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We have a group of Academy players with a genuine chance of making it to the first team as home grown.

Phillips, Dorrington, Devine, Parrott, Scarlett, Donley, Moore, Lankshear, Soonsup-Bell.
 
bus-conductor said:
I don’t think that was the point. They went hard on Everton because they completely took the piss out of a very simple rule. They posted something like a 280m three year loss against an allowed 105m. And they did it to get an advantage that could well have seen them relegated and others stay in the PL otherwise.
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Not against Everton being punished. Just pointing out the authorities see them as a convenient "example". They're not going to go after City, and none of their actions will impact City's massive advantage.
 
Spursidol said:
The rules say we MUST name 3 GK's in a squad.

So if we have squad places that cannot be filled (Club Trained players) then use a space for non playing 3rd GK's and use other places for the best outfield players we can get.

So the squad is being reasonably well managed.

Next summer the players we will likely sell and try to upgrade on are Sessegnon (one HG player) and the others are overseas trained players - Hojbjerg, Lo Celso, Gil and then after that possibly Davies, Royal and Solomon, but doubt we'll get onto these 3 last ones ?), assuming Werner works out.
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I know we need 3 GK in squad but we have 4 because Austin or whiteman ain't good enough as a number 2.

Yeah but if for instance we still had a Walker-Peters, Madueke or Edwards we would have a player who can actually compete and play rather than have a 4th goalkeeper
 
MemphisWill said:
In the final 20 years of the First Division, 9 clubs won the title. In the past 20 years of the Premier League 5 clubs have won, and only 3 clubs have won in the past 10.

This is sustained monopolization of silverware at a level which has never been seen.
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My argument isn't that it's perfect and we know what the cause has been....

No-one in the game's gonna vote for a wage cap, equal spend etc. here. It's simply not a model that can fit the pyramid.
 
Richard Arlison said:
They are the sky sports premier league establishment

But really, it would feel much better to beat them to win the PL than getting rid of them.

But it’s a boring club tbh.
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They're twats (and the media wank-fest of course sucks), but I don't resent the Dipper's place at the table (ditto Man U)........


Woolwich can fuck off tho'..... Franchise wankers.
 
Airfixx said:
They're twats (and the media wank-fest of course sucks), but I don't resent the Dipper's place at the table (ditto Man U)........


Woolwich can fuck off tho'..... Franchise wankers.
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I do. That fucking shady penalty in the CL final. Jota putting stitches in Skipps head and Klopp always acting the cunt.

Fergie time and the constant cheating of that era. Taking Berbatov and Carrick. Sheringham before that.
 
Jenny Talia said:
We have a group of Academy players with a genuine chance of making it to the first team as home grown.

Phillips, Dorrington, Devine, Parrott, Scarlett, Donley, Moore, Lankshear, Soonsup-Bell.
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I've only seen him in a couple of games playing as a RB but this kid is one to keep an eye on:

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