I guess. But it then does not correlate at all with how much value they provide when playing. What is the point of having 25 under 21s who have lots of potential selling value versus a bunch of older ones who can actually win things.
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That's not what they are trying to do though, they are valuing in £ if sold or so I thought. You are describing best or most likely to win, different thing.
You say mostly, but I've provided 3 different scenarios that are hardly uncommon and significantly distort the notion that wages = quality.
Isolate this discussion from the original tweet and think for a mo..... If someone said to you "X has the best squad cos they have the highest wage bill" you'd just say "meh".... Well I certainly would anyway.
I guess if thats what they want to do, sounds like a boring thing to do. Not like anyone is selling their entire squad, so no point in guessing such a value. Id be more interested if someone worked on finding out how good a squad actually is.
That would definitely be a meh moment. But like i said to the other rusx, transfermarkt values are also not about whose squad is good. Its just about how much would someone get sold for based more on their age/contract length
They rank all sorts of shit which is mostly guesswork most valuable brand etc no real value but has uses if taken as it is. Broadly it shows who can generate revenue with sales if needed. Taken with transfer fees it shows who improves players vs opposite.
All bollox but if you know what it is still some use.
......But not without the over-riding consideration as to how good they are.
Oh they do.Age/ Length of contract almost overrides everything. Sissoko is currently 9 million, winks 18 million, Fernandinho 1.8million. Is Sissoko 5 times better or Winks 10 times better than Fernandinho? Age+ length of contract absolutely blasting any relevance of how good the player is. Everything on that website is completely distorted by age+length of contract.
If only we could have got 9 million for Sissoko or 18 for winks.
Age has a tangible value outside of contractual terms though..... If you had 2 players of equal percieved ability; one 22 and one 32..... Inevitably, the one with room to grow and physically more in the tank would be more desirable (and thus percieved as more valuable) no?
Anyway, I think we're better off agreeing that neither are an ideal, nor exact science, mate....
Chambers on £130k pw? Seriously they are a shower of shite!!?
O yea definitely not exact science at all.
Weve always laughed at transfermarkt values on this forum. Would be silly to suddenly embrace them.
My only real take-away from the tweet was that a) it was compiled without bias and b) yet again we see financial par underlined in yet another metric.
Wow
Yea its very possible that we have the 5th best squad currently(possibly 6th) but I would agree with transfermarkt that far too much of our value is generated by Kane(our lottery win) and Son. The rest of the squad isnt as good as it should be even if we can acknowledge that some effort was put in fixing a few of the problems within the squad (but not enough)
Has a lot more potential to increase than last year to be fair. I mean they might all be shit, but we knew after 3+ years of Sissoko, Aurier and those other stinkers that we had less hope than Bob
When you look at some of the fees we've doled out, one could argue we should be even better (valuable?).....
I know what you mean by "lottery win", but if we'd sold him and spend a massive fee in the trf market would that change the perceived underlying value of the squad (see Villa/Grealish) and somehow make it more valid....?
There's also the fact that Foden, Rashford, Mount, TAA or whoever you care to mention are academy-born first teamers that add significant value (both footballing and financial) to their respective teams.... Why should only we be down-valued based on that criteria?
Finally, the money we (and others) invested in academy and scouting could have just as easily been spent in the trf market... It's all ties in with the chain that is income + profit > wealth (affordability) > spending > squad (quality/value)..... There's no more tangible value/quality added to a squad if they were to have closed their accademy and just plow all their income directly into the trf market.
Talking of wages, Salah's demands for 1/2 mil p.w don't seem to fit his supposed ethos
Islamic law considers money to have no intrinsic value. Money is a measure of value only, and not valuable in itself; it is a medium of exchange or a unit of measurement, but not an asset. Money must therefore be converted into a commodity in order to be useful.Feb 13, 2017
Egypt forward Mo Salah makes huge wage demand to remain at Liverpool past 2023
The 29-year-old forward reportedly wants a hefty pay rise to represent his importance at Anfield...
www.football365.com
Slimey little git.
Got no love for the dippers, but rather than rock the boat 3 weeks into the season; why not pull that stunt during the trf window and give them a chance to sell if a deal can't be agreed?
RAWK must be feeewming! ....Off to get some pop-corn.
Liverpool approached him to negotiate a contract extension now not in the transfer window.Egypt forward Mo Salah makes huge wage demand to remain at Liverpool past 2023
The 29-year-old forward reportedly wants a hefty pay rise to represent his importance at Anfield...
Slimey little git.
Got no love for the dippers, but rather than rock the boat 3 weeks into the season; why not pull that stunt during the trf window and give them a chance to sell if a deal can't be agreed?
RAWK must be feeewming! ....Off to get some pop-corn.
Ah, fair enough.... Cunts on either side of the table regardless.
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