We can't win the CL except for deluded fans so may be the sooner out the better to concentrate on PL and top 4 plus the FA cup for the trophy cabinet.
The next 2 games being Watford must win and Liverpool must not do Munich.
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The next 2 games being Watford must win and Liverpool must not do Munich.
But most importantly, if Poch makes it to January, will Levy back him up in the transfer market? Cause if he won’t, then there’s no point sticking with Poch for that long.
We’re 3pts off top 4.
It’s not good enough at the moment, but it’s still so early.
No one is tipping Palace for Champions Leafue just because they’re 4th....
Food for thought....
If we buy a few players in Jan, will Poch actually play any of them before next August?
[Seems I have struck a comedic chord here.... Was actually planting a more serious 'seed' - i.e.. How long before anyone could be expected to make a difference - but hey ho.
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8 games in and nothing left to offer.
That sounds a lot like losing the dressing room...
I agree with this except 3-6th? Can’t see it at the moment but there is a way to go I guess
Let me ask a hypothetical question here, at what point do we consider it to be so damaging that we NEED to sack him?
If we lose the Watford game? Like how many more losses will it take? I don't mean this in a confrontational way, I mean it as a genuine question.
Let's look at our next 5 PL fixtures:
Worst case scenario
Watford - 0 points
Liverpool - 0 points
Everton - 0 points
Sheffield - 0 points
Wet Spam - 0 points
Ok so say we lose every one of those games, which seems far fetched when I write it but given our current form and that four of those games are away, doesn't actually seem all that unlikely, would that be enough for a change? That takes us to the 23rd of November and we would likely be near the bottom of the table in that scenario.
Ok so, what about these results:
Watford - 3 points
Liverpool - 0 points
Everton - 3 points
Sheffield - 3 points
Wet Spam - 0 points
9 points from our next 5 fixtures, would that be enough to justify keeping him on?
I am just trying to understand now, what is enough to prove that he can turn things around?
If we lose the Watford game? Like how many more losses will it take? I don't mean this in a confrontational way, I mean it as a genuine question.
Let's look at our next 5 PL fixtures:
Worst case scenario
Watford - 0 points
Liverpool - 0 points
Everton - 0 points
Sheffield - 0 points
Wet Spam - 0 points
Ok so say we lose every one of those games, which seems far fetched when I write it but given our current form and that four of those games are away, doesn't actually seem all that unlikely, would that be enough for a change? That takes us to the 23rd of November and we would likely be near the bottom of the table in that scenario.
Ok so, what about these results:
Watford - 3 points
Liverpool - 0 points
Everton - 3 points
Sheffield - 3 points
Wet Spam - 0 points
9 points from our next 5 fixtures, would that be enough to justify keeping him on?
I am just trying to understand now, what is enough to prove that he can turn things around?
Have they removed that post?
Getting like the Soviet Union now.....another week, another report about players losing all faith in Poch.
We got to the final so I’d say maybe four straight relegations and then consider someone new
But seriously, lose to Watford and it’s “give him til Everton can’t expect to win at Anfield”
Losers
I agree with this except 3-6th? Can’t see it at the moment but there is a way to go I guess
Things seems bleak atm, but....
Disregarding "oooh, they've started well" picks (see palace); after 38 games which 6 teams do you genuinely believe will have proven better than us?
How many chances are we going to give Poch before we're in the championship. Without Kane, Son, Lucas and whoever else wants to stay in the premiere. He has had too many already and it's time for a change.
He's had all the time in the world......
Calm down, Doc... Reach for the perspective pill.
Or perhaps I can perscribe you a steady bout of masturbation this afternoon? ;o]
I am really surprised he has not been fired yet. I keep checking NewsNow to see if the axe has been swung.
That’s a fair question. On current form I’d say
Many City
Liverpool
Chelsea
Woolwich
Leicester
And then it gets questionable. Possibly Man U. Unlikely wast ham but I do remember the 90’s when they finished above us more than once. I suppose the message here is keep a clear head and don’t panic. I don’t feel any better though
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It's so difficult to keep one's cool. I rewatched Saturday's game to try to find a chink of light but I just see negative, boring uninspired play.
I'm finding it more and more difficult to be positive about the immediate future.
Where's that KY?
I also see a link has emerged between Son and Napoli. I'm not one for tabloid rumours but it's indicative of what will happen if this carries on.
As a long time supporter and clearly one of the real thinkers here, let me ask you in which direction should we go? In my view, Poch and Levy are a toxic combination. Levy won't go, it's a cash cow for him so it has to be Poch. I can't think of anything else we might do.
I can only speak for myself, but it's the manner of the loss yesterday that changed my mind. Losing is one thing, that shit-show was something else.
I love Poch. He is the best manager I have seen at Spurs. I appreciate some prefer Redknapp, fine, but for me it is Poch. But something is wrong this season, badly wrong. I can kinda understand shipping the 7 vs Bayern as we went looking for goals: it sucks but it happens. But when you do ship 7, the next match you better have a response. If your response is to lose 3 - 0 to likely relegation candidates while looking like you barely even fucking care...hard to conclude anything other than the manager has lost the dressing room.
If Poch doesn't get sacked, could I see him turning it around? It's possible. Beat Watford handsomely and then win (in any fashion) at Liverpool...I'd be back on board. But I see it as very unlikely at this point. The less-risky option is to replace him while there is still time for a new manager to turn the season around.
I love Poch. He is the best manager I have seen at Spurs. I appreciate some prefer Redknapp, fine, but for me it is Poch. But something is wrong this season, badly wrong. I can kinda understand shipping the 7 vs Bayern as we went looking for goals: it sucks but it happens. But when you do ship 7, the next match you better have a response. If your response is to lose 3 - 0 to likely relegation candidates while looking like you barely even fucking care...hard to conclude anything other than the manager has lost the dressing room.
If Poch doesn't get sacked, could I see him turning it around? It's possible. Beat Watford handsomely and then win (in any fashion) at Liverpool...I'd be back on board. But I see it as very unlikely at this point. The less-risky option is to replace him while there is still time for a new manager to turn the season around.
Levy is desperate not to fire him because he's one of the very few managers that will not walk away and just accept what he is given without too much fuss.
Levys golden goose.