Summer 2019 transfer thread

[Freundian slip]

He has 2 options. Leave or sign a new deal.
If he fails to do either, he needs to understand he won't be playing for us between now and next summer.
Let's see if Real Madrid and Denmark want him after a year of hardly kicking a ball.

Might make his pen hand a little more useful.

No chance he won't play, even if we signed a new AM he still starts, wasted sat on the bench. I think top flight football is past the point where contracts matter, as long as he puts a shift in it's down to talent.

 

[MVP]

The best way is to tell him he won't get much game time and see how he reacts.

Sign a new deal or find a new club. If you don't do either, expect to find your career limited for the next 12 months.

He'll could just think to himself that it's worth it, he walks away free at the end of 12 months with a big signing on fee.

 

[Bill Madrid]

Ahhh. The Ford Crapi.

Total babe magnet. Or so I thought aged 10

 

[Spursidol]

Considering our final 12 league games of last season ( 1/3 of a season ) delivered 11 points it would seem bizarre that the logical reaction to that form is to sell players, weaken the depth of the squad and to appear to give up a week before the season begins. Yet that’s how it’s looking / feeling to a lot of us ( not all I admit )

While the addition of Ndombele is a positive step, he is only replacing Dembele, so that’s not an upgrade as such.

If we are to accept that the final 1/3 of last season being so shit was the price we paid for the brilliant Champions League run, we must still be aware of how luck played it’s part, as did players like Llorente, yet he is no longer even a Spurs player. Why not... what was the plan to replace him ? Was there a plan as it does not look like there is right now.

It’s all very odd. Far too quiet and quite concerning actually that despite Madrid and the golden goose opportunities it could well be a case of austerity leaving us with stagnation, which is not what we are actually supporting and paying for.

Dembele we clearly struggling and half s effective as he had been in 17/18 and the first half of 18/19 as well as injury reducing he number of games he could play.

So if you think Ndombele is " just a replacement," think again - one thing Dembele was never good at is once he'd broken through the lines he could not pass, resulting I AMs and Kane needing to drop deep to pick up a pass.

Ndombele adds passing to Dembeles game ( so AMs will be far more effective ) and at age 22 might be at Spurs for another decade - and improve under Pochs coaching.

Ndombele isn't s replacement for Dembele he's a huge upgrade.

 

[Spursidol]

Total babe magnet. Or so I thought aged 10

So you lied to me before when you said it was the Ford model T !

 

[MVP]

I am not sure a player can choose a club to go to and force it to the donor club specially if that club doesn't him. Let me remind you, Tripps said last summer he wants to stay in London, see where he ended up.

He wanted to go there, if he digs his heels in, it's a different matter.

 

[Airfixx]

Erisken holds all the cards. Can’t force him out.

Literally EVERYTHING has to be explain to that guy... It's incredible!

 

[Mick Cooper]

Are you not churning out the same thing to posters when you complain about them having opinions all the time but never offer a counterpoint though?

I think you will find that's not the case if you actually bother to read what I write I have a wide variety of opinions but again, I am in the transfer thread, discussing transfers or in this case, lackof.

The only thing I an repeating myself on at the minute is telling other posters to stop insulting people for having a different opinion to them, that seems to be a common theme in this thread specifically.

Am I obliged to take part in your interminably tedious debates, am I?
I come on here hoping to find news that we have signed Sessegnon/LoCelso etc
and all I find is people denigrating the club, manager, transfer policy and declaring end of days because we haven't signed some right back I've never heard of from some Lithuanian League 2 club
If you are not sure what I mean, take part in a conversation with 8 or more people and keep repeating the same point over and over again, for added effect try to sound more and more hysterical with each repetition.
I'm fairly sure that eventually someone will tell you to fuck off.

 

[Matt1882]

He'll could just think to himself that it's worth it, he walks away free at the end of 12 months with a big signing on fee.

Or alternatively, no one wants him and he ends up at Fenerbache or West Ham.

No chance he won't play, even if we signed a new AM he still starts, wasted sat on the bench. I think top flight football is past the point where contracts matter, as long as he puts a shift in it's down to talent.

We need to give him an incentive to sign a new deal. If it means making him sit out the first 6 or 7 games of the season to see if he comes around, then do it.

 

[Hrytn]

No chance he won't play, even if we signed a new AM he still starts, wasted sat on the bench. I think top flight football is past the point where contracts matter, as long as he puts a shift in it's down to talent.

He didn't care last season on the pitch, what are you going to to expect from him this season?

 

[SouthCoastSpur]

I don't want to see Eriksen at the club next week if he hasn't signed an extension. We simply cannot afford to let a £50m+ player leave on a free next season.

Parrott and Tanganga both played well in pre-season. I doubt the latter will be given first team football this season but if he could go out on loan to a PL or Championship club I reckon he'll be ripe for next season. Parrott looks good enough to sit on the bench this season to be honest. Really impressive.

So we're not desperate for any more signings. If Eriksen leaves then Lo Celso has to come in. If Rose leaves then Sessengon needs to come in. Dybala would be nice but unlikely given his alleged price tag.

But yeah. If Eriksen is still here at the end of the window and hasn't signed an extension it'll be a colossal fuck up by Levy.

I'd love to see Eriksen sign an extension and stay. If not then agree we should sell ideally but we can't make him move and we can't make him extend if he wants to run his contract down. So no not a colossal fuck up by levy on my books.

 

[Tottenham Sean]

Erisken holds all the cards. Can’t force him out.

But as was said, we don't have to play him.

 

[Airfixx]

Total babe magnet. Or so I thought aged 10

You could pull me driving that now, damn-it!

 

[skywalker68]

1600 makes me think of the 1970 Capri, still one of favourite ever cars

Yeah the 3.1 was the one I wanted and I also loved the rs2000 mk 1 escort

 

[Hrytn]

Keep seeing this posted over and over again ... it's pure fiction, there are at least four things to consider

Spurs are highly unlikely to confirm a sale until one or both of their replacements are also confirmed, pretty stupid to let the club you're buying from know that you've already sold the player who's being replaced ... that kinda destroys your negotiating position.

RM paid way to much for Hazard as did Barca for Coutinho ... who else is going to piss away that kind of money?

Eriksen is only worth what another club is willing to pay .... very few clubs are going to pay even 50m for a player they will get cheaper in January, or indeed for free next summer ... maybe an EPL club (Man Utd) if they get desperate next week, but that's about the only one.

Any European club interested will wait until the EPL window closes, that takes all the possible EPL buyers out of the equation, we will have bought in a replacement by then so we will want to get Eriksen of the books even at a discount, if no replacement then he stays anyway.

and finally for all we know Eriksen may have been offered a contract by dozens of other clubs, we know he had offers last summer, we can't force him to accept any of them even if they bid 100m, maybe he wants to play a final season and leave on a free, nothing anyone can do about that, not even with a #Eriksenout campaign, life just doesn't work like that

the idea that Levy can somehow force him to leave ... simply not true

I don't click disagree button.

 

[Airfixx]

But as was said, we don't have to play him.

I do kinda like that approach in principal; but with it does come the need to resign ourselves to both losing him on a free and paying him for fuck all for a year.

Sadly, unless we can get him to sign a deal or sell him now; we lose.

 

[Incomplete_usernam]

The point to take from the past is that over the last decade and more the squad has gradually got better and better. It's not a linear increase but certainly obviius.

The only reason for building the stadium and training ground for the best part of a billion is to get a sustainable club and part of that is to get satisfied fans ( or at least as satisfied as fans can be ) who fill the ground regularly, and get means playing entertaining football competing at the business end of competitions - nobody with any sincerity can promise to win PL or CL or any other competition but the club are showing we can compete at the top ( eg CL final) and that is clearly the aim.

And to do that means getting the best squad we can - whether through buying ready made players (Ndombele - no apostrophes) ,buy in top talent to develop ( Clarke) and develop our own ( Skipp, Parrott et Al). But it's never s fast process - what seems to have been forgotten is Poch said it's the start of another 5 year project a few months ago.....so it's not just one transfer window he was thinking about.

I agree with you entirely, there is no debating the squad quality has improved, our first team quality is up there with the best, no doubt about that whatsoever.

I also agree that building the stadium is about sustainablity over the long term, that can't be denied and it's a good strategy to have but I also think that it's about balance, I get the impression from our owners and Levy that the stadium is there to keep us profitable and they are happy as long as we remain in the CL and keep getting supporters in through the doors, however the impression I get from our wider fanbase and our manager is that they want us to remain competitive for trophies and not just become a Woolwich 2.0, a stadium but top four is our everything.

And whilst I realise it's unrealistic to expect winning a trophy every season I think it's about intent and ambition.

When we signed Ndombele there was a shift from supporters because it felt like a change in how we did business was happening, we had a target we wanted and we got it secured, early on and for a reasonable price.

However since then, It seems to have reverted back to what we have been accustomed to, which to me at least is an indication that our owners think that signing is enough to secure top four and keep us profitable, if we were however to bring in LO Celso and Sess and get a decent RB in it would indicate to me and a lot of fans that we are serious about achieving more than just a top four finish and actually are serious about challenging for a title.

Does getting those signings mean we will challenge? It's hard to say really but what I do know is that it will show that we have intent to win a trophy and we have done our best and given our manager the best tools possible to try and achieve that and that to me is what's important.

Instead we seem to be going into the season very short in regards to depth and with one position in particular looking short of options completely, we also have numerous players with contracts about to expire and no conclusion to those in sight.

When you combine that with the fact we got 11 points on the back end of last season and barely scraped top four I think that's why you are seeing a lot of our supporters starting to question things.

Also, based on Poch and the language he has been using, it didn't sound like he meant another rebuilding project, he said we need to "find a different way operate if we want to win trophies now the stadium is built" and then immediately moved on to talking about wanting signings.

That to me indicates he thinks we need to spend and we can no longer rely on the old model if we truly want to compete, maybe he didn't sign his new contract thinking that would be the case but that's how I believe he feel right now and I believe that Levy probably fundamentally disagrees with that (although I could be wrong on that completely.)

 

[Macch]

Literally EVERYTHING has to be explain to that guy... It's incredible!

Given some of his posts, it’s not all that surprising

 

[Hrytn]

I think we will have two signings by next Thursday.

Eriksen and Toby signing new contracts.

 

[asterdroid]

But as was said, we don't have to play him.

That just gives him a chance to save his legs for next season.