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Nah, Tic-Tacs man.S.L.R said:Didnt we use them at the Lane once?
I love to read a lot tactical stuff so long as it's backed up with examples and pictures and clips of what is being talked about, without them they can be a fucking tedious and arduous to get through. Ultimately end up falling asleep halfway through.
I get the impression that most of their goals conceded have been from individual mistakes rather than tactical errors as such. Although I suppose that putting players in the position to make mistakes in the first place could be considered a tactical error.Liverpool's philosophy under Klopp is attack, attack, attack and out score your opponents because they cant defend?
Sign Hoillet, Afellay, Adam Johnson or Moses and we don't have these problems.
There is no doubt that Liverpool score lots of goals and the fall out is, they concede - they hope they can out score teams. i feel we have the balance just right at the moment.I get the impression that most of their goals conceded have been from individual mistakes rather than tactical errors as such. Although I suppose that putting players in the position to make mistakes in the first place could be considered a tactical error.
Anyone else think that the tactics on the first page of this thread describe how we might have set out if LVG had taken over instead of Poch (with slightly different personnel obviously)?
We don't all play the high line, but the article is a year old and some teams have added a few tricks since then.There is no doubt that Liverpool score lots of goals and the fall out is, they concede - they hope they can out score teams. i feel we have the balance just right at the moment.
I read the article-what a long read. I'm totally confused . Apparently we all play the high line but differently.
I feel all coaches play, pushing on, to confront the opposition in which ever way they set up. Its flexible and not unique to any coach or team. I can remember seeing Kane going wide in some games and running down the centre in others. Some coaches may have developed aspects of it but we all tap into whatever way is necessary. it suggested JM played it-did he? i thought he play possession football and very defensive.
Is it one up front or two?
It gives a new perspective on AVB's failed high-line.It seems like there's a sort of consensus forming at the top among teams around pressing and positional play, but requires really talented teams to pull off properly. Teams which haven't got that talent are sort of chasing the pressing style, but in a more basic way. This year's Crystal Palace have done that, with a sort of press in midfield, and then quickly throwing the balls out to wingers to then cross the ball in to Benteke.
Hell, "high-line"/off-side trap playing teams were nothing new even in England. Journalists/pundits generally have significantly worse "football knowledge" than fans though, it seems, so that was conveniently forgotten when searching for a false narrative to beat an unflavoured foreigner with.It gives a new perspective on AVB's failed high-line.
I remember a lot of people's stubborn insistence at the time that the high-line doesn't work in England or against English teams, despite repeated examples of English teams being humbled by the high-line in European competition or international play.
Basically, yeah. His novelty was getting his teams to be that intense and focused. Also, playing a three man midfield when most of the competition were still playing 4-4-2 helped.The so called Mourinho style seems ordinary to me, nothing special. A typical counter attack tactic.
Mourinho hasn't innovated in a long fucking time. Honestly I think Madrid ruined him. His only real solution now is to field a more expensive team than the competition and beat them on individual quality.The so called Mourinho style seems ordinary to me, nothing special. A typical counter attack tactic.
Simeone does have his Atletico teams doing a high press, just only sometimes during games. It's not a constant thing, more of a situational thing.Excellent article and a tactical discussion, (now that we have a manager that actually understands tactics), is a discussion well worth having.
Having said all of that calling anything the anti football crew, like Mourinho and Simeone, do pressing renders the word meaningless for me. If it isn't high pressing than it really isn't pressing in any meaningful way, it is just defending and counter attacking.
For me, thats the gist of it. To apply it effectively you need the better player. Saying that, I guess its the same for any style you play.requires really talented teams to pull off properly. Teams which haven't got that talent are sort of chasing the pressing style, but in a more basic way.