Dunno about facilities attracting players, think money is the most important of all and facilities = an afterthought for many players.
Someone’s paying attention.
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Dunno about facilities attracting players, think money is the most important of all and facilities = an afterthought for many players.
This is Readings training ground as of May 2019:
This is Readings new training ground........ a team that finished 20th in the Championship .
But there is clearly no merit in what I saying - just me being negative of course.
This is Readings training ground as of May 2019:
It's not hard when a certain cunt gets involved...
We have a world class training complex, it's a good thing, it means players arriving to the training every day of their working life aren't going to a poxy portacabin every day. It's not even about attracting players, it's retention, a player is more inclined to be happy here...
Waits for 'but Eriksen & Alderweireld are still out, what good has the complex done there?' answer, the training complex is a reason to stay and not the sole one. Just because players leave or arrive it doesn't make the facility a bad idea.
It's not fantasy or delusion to say we have a facility to be proud of.
You are trying to make a point on Training Grounds with one that is over a year away from being built.
People are saying that it's good that players do their work at top facilities, that they will enjoy working at them and that they stand to improve their development as players with such facilities at their disposal. And even if you were a seasoned pro because they can use the facilities to recover from sessions (seen by many Coaches as more important than doing the actual training) that they are well prepared for the next game, ergo in their best shape to compete. And in addition that those that are making their minds up on what club to join that it plays a part in their decision making on whether to join.
You say that is bollocks and to prove your point you post architect drawings of a training ground that is a long way from even being completed. What point are you trying to counter with Readings training ground which isn't built?
Couldn't be arsed to be honest, I haven't even read any of the other posts, you have whatever view you have and when you get stuck you just move the goalposts, pointless even engaging with you...
You are so wide of the mark it's unbelievable .... this isn't even complicated ...
In life people spend more time at work than doing anything else other than sleeping ... the working environment gets more importation as your salary goes up ... low paid employees will put up with a shit work place just to get paid, managers want an office, directors want a window and a secretary, owners want the private jet etc
Footballers are at the top of the tree, they don't want for anything, if they're going to spend 30 hours a week training they want that training facility to be the best, have the best equipment, best pool, best medical, best lounges, best wi-fi .... best feckin' everything ... and that's what Hotspur Way provides ...
Training ground four days a week is way more important than stadium for 90 minutes once a fortnight.
Hodgson, England in 2016 "These facilities are at a whole new level"
Brazil 2018 "The hotel, player facilities, and training ground are the finest now in Europe"
Poch "It is vital to give the players happiness when the are working, to attract the best players you need to offer this, we have the best chance to do that with this training ground"
So they all seem fairly on board with Hotspur Way ... what's your problem?
Of fucking course the contract is the biggest driver absolutely no one has said it isn’t.
What is being said by some is that the Training Ground plays a part in the decision for some players.
One simplistic way to look at it is if you were a player that has been offered the same contract say between us or Woolwich what also helps make up the players mind. Where he spends 90% of his time might have some weight to making his mind up. I believe ONLY us and City have facilities where you can sleep at in England (Utd have pods). This could be seen as significant, but I doubt it is to an 18yr old but the fact it’s thier, the fact it’s state of the art and only exists at City (an other Ellite club) just acts as validation of the Club. Go to a Porsche showroom and then to a Vauxhall showroom, there is a difference, it’s part of the validation of why you are paying ten times the cost. Same goes for most things, a Gucci store is different to TK Max.
Then to a serious sportsman, an elite athlete who wants to have the support of the best facilities, cryogenic chambers, rehab pools, gyms etc. Leicester have both already, but their cryogenic chambers are in a portacabin in thier staff car park, ours are purpose built. It’s a statement, everything is just better. It’s just well thought out, professional, it transmits excellence, perfection.
Sports performance has been reduced to marginal gains, focusing on the minute detail, from the type of washing powder used to clean the kit and the bed sheets, to where the food is grown and sourced for the canteen. It all adds up!! Whether it’s a actual or placebo, physical or mental, the difference is felt and a feeling of reassurance has been established, something concrete to back up the “spin”.
If Readings hasn’t been built yet then it can’t be felt, as it doesn’t exist. Players are coming to us and not Utd, not PSG right now, they absolutely didn’t join because of our Training Ground but it would have been in part. A good contract, a massive stadium, a state of the art Training Ground, a world class manager. It’s a compelling reason to join. It’s not pie in the sky bullshit either, they exist and are utilized. Ellite or wanna be Ellite athletes working for a club similar N’Golo to become Ellite.
I disagree with 90% of that ... not going to bother to repeat why as you clearly never read the first post ... might I suggest you go and look at what the players say about training facilities, that's what really matters ... or are they all lying just like Hodgson?
Man City have more money than god, clearly by your logic they could train in Salisbury's car park as the players wouldn't care ... yet they have spent over 200 million on the City Football Academy now I wonder why they did that?
Well, I'm NOT talking about our status being massively enhanced by the Training Ground.
I stating that it is vital to our position of a team that is trying to break into the elite group of clubs. You can't be an elite club if you don't have an elite training ground, you can't call yourself an elite club if you don't have an elite Stadium, you can't call yourself elite if you don't have elite squad, elite manager.
You say no one is talking about Hotspur Way!! That actually is utter bollocks, it's spoken about all the time within the media, and now the media are talking about the stadium too! Go onto rival fans forums and many of them are talking about our facilities with envy, some even have dedicated threads, just as they do on the Stadium too!
You also say all the top 6 have a great training ground, of course, they fucking do, that's the point, we do now! We've joined them and gone past them, ours is better. Does this enable us to sign a player? NO!! Does it demonstrate that we are a serious club? Absolutely it fucking does, it's real, it's not an architect drawing or a Club Chairmans fantasy?
All the top clubs have great Training Grounds - Ours enables us to compete with them. I guarantee you if we have a shit one we wouldn't be competing with those that do (we never have before is my evidence to this). In fact, ALL the Clubs with great training Grunds also promote the fuck out of them too, just as we are. It's an arms race, all clubs trying to proport they are the best, or they have the best. Tottenham is now in this arms race, this big swinging dick race.
Willian, 29, now claims it was always his intention to move to the Blues, but says Tottenham didn't make it easy. Speaking to Brazil TV show Resenha, Willian said:
Willian continued: "Then we’re going in the van, on the way, get to the training centre, Kia, my agent, is already down there, waiting. I thought it was weird, he was already at the door. Then I got out of the van, he said, ‘we have problems’. I said ‘oh, what happened?’ Then he ‘Chelsea made an offer’. I said, ‘So make do, I’ll get back in the van, you’ll make do and I’ll go to Chelsea, I will not sign with Tottenham." You know my objective was to go to Chelsea, but since Chelsea don’t want, then we’re going to Tottenham. I said 'oh, I’m going to sign with Tottenham, anyway, there’s no other option'. "
You don't want to get involved in us competing with PSG and Utd and getting the player to come here instead of them, but introduce Willian to make a comment!! Stop trying to "win" agreements by typing shit. It's OK to admit that you are guessing with what you say and that maybe things are simply not black and white. That there is a reason why football clubs are building better and better facilities for a reason other than ROI.
It's a part of the pitch, it's part of the validation, it's part of the dick measuring. It's NOT the sole reason, but in many cases, neither is the contract, just ask our players who could all double their contracts elsewhere.
You must be blind if you think that looks as good as Hotspur Way.
"DUUUUUHHH WHERE DID I SAY THAT DUUUUUUUUHHH"
If what you post has no implied meaning then why even post it?
No sir I didn't say the Antarctic is warm rather I said it was the opposite of being cold.