If he is, fatty thinks you are a cunt! It’s got nothing to do with your sexuality , race or religion, you are just a fucking cunt!
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That's one of the things that worried me about this thread from the very beginning, that a large portion of the fanbase could easily be seen as being intolerant toward Rudiger and the process in general.
Your take on this?
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Guy likes Jim Davidson. Sounds like a closet racist to me.
John Hall made it up. He heard nothing.
It should be OK to acknowledge that racism is a problem in football, but still to question whether in this particular instance Rudiger's allegation was false.
There has been denial and indifference about racism both in the past and present, but does it help to accept every allegation of racism as true, without scrutiny, as Gary Neville and others did straight after the game? Or is that just virtue signaling, in this case at the expense of our fans' reputation?
Yes this was a very serious allegation, and rightly the club have treated it very seriously, but I think it is clear that the fan footage and audio doesn't back Rudiger up.
In the end we make our own judgements, but I think it is wise to stick to the principle our courts stick to, ie presumed innocence. In the meantime Spurs fans have been scapegoated for the 'racism in football issue'. We shouldn't accept that, especially when everyone knows Rudiger's own club have a much worse record on racism than we do.
I am sure the club are fearful of coming out and saying, 'we haven't found any convincing evidence of racist behaviour' for fear of being accused of whitewashing. But until they do, the smear on our fans reputation lingers.
There has been denial and indifference about racism both in the past and present, but does it help to accept every allegation of racism as true, without scrutiny, as Gary Neville and others did straight after the game? Or is that just virtue signaling, in this case at the expense of our fans' reputation?
Yes this was a very serious allegation, and rightly the club have treated it very seriously, but I think it is clear that the fan footage and audio doesn't back Rudiger up.
In the end we make our own judgements, but I think it is wise to stick to the principle our courts stick to, ie presumed innocence. In the meantime Spurs fans have been scapegoated for the 'racism in football issue'. We shouldn't accept that, especially when everyone knows Rudiger's own club have a much worse record on racism than we do.
I am sure the club are fearful of coming out and saying, 'we haven't found any convincing evidence of racist behaviour' for fear of being accused of whitewashing. But until they do, the smear on our fans reputation lingers.
To be fair most have recognised this and don't accept that, but some would rather take 2 peoples word against thousands, if not millions, plus the club and Met police.
Exactly.....makes you wonder eh.
Holt's always been a lying, self-serving cunt ready to besmirch anyone's reputation for a story. I remember when he was chief football writer for The Times back in the 90s, writing an outraged, hand-wringing editorial about the despicable behaviour of England fans at a game in Italy when in the very same edition the reporter who was at the match said that the England fans were beaten in an unprovoked attack by the police.
Hope that prick at the Daily Mail reads that.
See told you he was a cheating cunt.. The boy who cried Wolf, now apologise you lying Twat.
Good. Lets make sure this is spread far and wide, because you know for sure the media isn't going to make a big deal out of it...