But he’s had Kane and Son available and we’ve still been shit.
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If Jose had taken over after the CL final, then he would have taken over that team. But he didnt, he joined many months after that where Poch's preseason had already caused a lot of damage to the team which was then in 14th position in the league and had lost 7-2 vs Bayern in the CL. Poch inherited a team with Dembele, Vertonghen, Eriksen, Walker in their primes. This current squad is not even close with many of our best players gone, old or run ragged.
Never saw us under The Man in the Raincoat?
Hey
sammyspurs
we are waiting for a response to the oranges vs oranges comparison. And Klopp has only won like 5 trophies to Mou's 27(?). And if he can't at least equal Klopp here what gives you faith that he will do it next year when at best he will be the 4th best/most sought after manager in the league (based on rep) and the one with the probably weakest team.
sammyspurs
we are waiting for a response to the oranges vs oranges comparison. And Klopp has only won like 5 trophies to Mou's 27(?). And if he can't at least equal Klopp here what gives you faith that he will do it next year when at best he will be the 4th best/most sought after manager in the league (based on rep) and the one with the probably weakest team.
So now you are comparing Klopp losing a final to Jose winning oneOk then Sammy, Klopp took over a shitty Pool side around the same time as Mou and got them to a cup final. Should we expect similar in the oranges to fucking oranges comparison? Suck it, Sammy.
edit: shouldn't take you this long
You talk a lot of shit man. You got a hardon for Poch and wanted his head on a platter. Good for you but this nonsense you speak and that libelous BS you spouted but didn't have the balls to walk-back yesterday doesn't serve you well.
All 4 of those players you name benefited from Poch as much as Poch benefited from them. He made their primes and they should be grateful for it.
Capitulating a ten point gap on the scum in 4 months too
Hey
I have faith because he’s a world class manager
Just like I’d have faith in Ronaldo if we signed him even though he’s never played for West Brom before and only done it at big clubs
Nope wanted Poch to stay
That's just weak sauce Sammy. All that time and that's all you could come up with? You should have just conceded the point.
But yes, if Jose wins a cup then he would compare favorably to Klopp who took over under worse circumstances and a team that consistently finished behind us, had lost their Harry Kane and their Sonny tthe summer prior. But if your 'winner' cannot at least match Klopp then what does that say?
See, this is fun Sammy.
But Klopp is a serial loser and a fraud. You said so yourself many times. What gives Arthur Hopcraft?
Matching Klopp by losing a final doesn’t make him a winner
With friends like these, I guess. But that makes it clearer then. You just don't know what you're talking about.
Does anyone know what our fans obsession with getting to but losing a final is?
Why is it seen as achievement?
Its no more of an achievement than being top with one game left but not winning the title.
It is in fact, failure.
Why is it seen as achievement?
Its no more of an achievement than being top with one game left but not winning the title.
It is in fact, failure.
Hold it, so you mean playing vs coaching are two different things? Who'da thunk it, Sammy?
And Ronaldo's goal tally would be expected to go down moving to a shitter team jsut like it has at Juve...and likewise RM's has. Playing in a worse team lessens your chances of success just like coaching a worse team.
Move to the mental floor exercise Sammy because I'm killing you on the mental pommel horse.
It’s better than getting to a semi and losing. You know, 4th with 12 points or 5th with 70. You’re the prime architect of this line of reasoning.
I apply the same logic to a manager as I do a player.
The better the manager or player, the more faith I have.
Id have more faith in Pep than I would Pardew even though Pep has only done it with money.
So if you disagree because Klopp lost a final, that’s fine.
Because getting there is half the battle Sammy and smart people recognize that. Getting there consistently is even more of an accomplishment. Getting there all doped up on Portuguese or Russian gangster money is less so.
And until Poch is in the fucking final with the most expensive team then how do you feel comfortable labelling him not a winner? Oranges to oranges my man.
No we haven’t