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Smoked Salmon

Smoked Salmon

Finest human being of all time
David Moyes had the second highest win percentage of any Manchester United manager, including Matt Busby....
Name Nationality From To P W D L GF GA Win%[nb 1] Honours Notes
A. H. Albut England 1892 1900 (n/a) (n/a) (n/a) (n/a) (n/a) (n/a) (n/a) [nb 2][nb 3]
James West England 1900 September 1903 113 46 20 47 159 147 40.71 [nb 2][12]
Ernest Mangnall England 10 October 1903 9 September 1912 373 202 76 95 700 476 54.16 2 First Division titles
1 FA Cup
2 Charity Shields [nb 2][13]
T. J. Wallworth (n/a) 9 September 1912 20 October 1912 6 3 2 1 11 7 50.00 [nb 4]
John Bentley England 28 October 1912 28 December 1914 82 36 16 30 127 110 43.90 [nb 2][14]
Jack Robson Scotland 28 December 1914 31 October 1921 139 41 42 56 183 207 29.50 [15]
John Chapman Scotland 31 October 1921 8 October 1926 221 86 58 77 287 274 38.91 [16]
Lal Hilditch England 8 October 1926 13 April 1927 33 10 10 13 38 47 30.30 [17]
Herbert Bamlett England 13 April 1927 9 November 1931 183 57 42 84 280 374 31.15 [18]
Walter Crickmer England 9 November 1931 13 July 1932 43 17 8 18 72 76 39.53 [19]
Scott Duncan Scotland 13 July 1932 7 November 1937 235 92 53 90 371 362 39.15 1 Second Division title [20]
Walter Crickmer England 9 November 1937 15 February 1945 76 30 24 22 131 112 39.47 [19]
Matt Busby Scotland 1 October 1945 4 June 1969 1,120 565 263 292 2,286 1,536 50.45 5 First Division titles
2 FA Cups
5 Charity Shields (inc. 2 shared)
1 European Cup [21]
Jimmy Murphy Wales February 1958 June 1958 22 5 7 10 27 42 22.73 [nb 5][22]
Wilf McGuinness England 4 June 1969 29 December 1970 87 32 32 23 127 111 36.78 [23]
Matt Busby Scotland 29 December 1970 8 June 1971 21 11 3 7 38 30 52.38 [21]
Frank O'Farrell Ireland 8 June 1971 19 December 1972 81 30 24 27 115 111 37.04 [24]
Tommy Docherty Scotland 22 December 1972 4 July 1977 228 107 56 65 333 252 46.93 1 FA Cup
1 Second Division title [25]
Dave Sexton England 14 July 1977 30 April 1981 201 81 64 56 290 240 40.30 1 Charity Shield (shared) [26]
Ron Atkinson England 9 June 1981 6 November 1986 292 146 79 67 461 266 50.00 2 FA Cups
1 Charity Shield [27]
Alex Ferguson Scotland 6 November 1986 19 May 2013 1,500 895 338 267 2,769 1,365 59.67 13 Premier League titles
5 FA Cups
4 League Cups
10 Community Shields (inc. 1 shared)[nb 6]
2 UEFA Champions Leagues
1 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup
1 UEFA Super Cup
1 Intercontinental Cup
1 FIFA Club World Cup [28]
David Moyes Scotland 1 July 2013 22 April 2014 51 27 9 15 86 54 52.94 1 Community Shield
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Proof that win percentage is meaningless.
 
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PPG only becomes relevant after a good sized data sample. 2 seasons at least.

For example, if you were to take a single season as reference then you could argue certain years that Sunderland or Ipswich were good sides.

Salmon is right, PPG is pointless until at least 2 seasons worth of results can be assessed. Anyone can have a flukey 6 months - 1 year.
 
Smoked Salmon said:
Proof that win percentage us meaningless.
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I wouldn't go so far…

One interesting thing about my experiment on the number of times Spurs have had a PPG rate as good or better as TS's current one (75 times in the past five years) is that though that is true, it's also only 75 times since ENIC has taken over the club.

So a rolling sample of half a season is actually not a terrible indicator of the relative health of the club. It's when it's cited out of the context of what's going on around it that trouble emerges (like that Moyes inherited a team with a better win %age).

Telling, then, that Harry and AVB had several runs of 19 matches where our PPG was even above 2. IMO, that shows the general strength of the squad over the past five years, calling into doubt precisely how much of an effect the managers actually had at all…
 
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