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Obviously we have a great 1st choice GK and IMO Forster is a great reserve.
But Fraser is 35 yo and we don't seem to be linked to any other GKs.
Austin and Whiteman have both yet to make their senior debut and I can barely recall watching either of them play.
DOB AGE CONTRACT NHG VICARIO Guglielmo 07/10/1996 27 2028 HG FORSTER Fraser 17/03/1988 35 2025 CT AUSTIN Brandon 08/01/1999 24 2024 CT WHITEMAN Alfie 02/10/1998 25 2025 CT U21 Gunter, Luca 23/03/2005 18 2025 NHG U21 Keeley, Josh 17/05/2003 20 2024? CT U21 Maguire, Aaron 25/07/2004 19 2024? CT U21 Bloedorn, Carey Brian 17/09/2005 18 2024? CT U21 Krasniqi, Elliot 26/10/2005 18 2024? CT U21 Archer, Samual 20/01/2007 16 2025 CT U21 Warren, Charlie 24/11/2006 17 2025
Gunter, Maguire and Keeley have been rotated in the U21.
Keeley now out on loan and doing well.
I believe Gunter has been training with the first team.
Haven't seen any of the younger ones play.
Obviously we have a great 1st choice GK and IMO Forster is a great reserve.
But Fraser is 35 yo and we don't seem to be linked to any other GKs.
Austin and Whiteman have both yet to make their senior debut and I can barely recall watching either of them play.
DOB AGE CONTRACT NHG VICARIO Guglielmo 07/10/1996 27 2028 HG FORSTER Fraser 17/03/1988 35 2025 CT AUSTIN Brandon 08/01/1999 24 2024 CT WHITEMAN Alfie 02/10/1998 25 2025 CT U21 Gunter, Luca 23/03/2005 18 2025 NHG U21 Keeley, Josh 17/05/2003 20 2024? CT U21 Maguire, Aaron 25/07/2004 19 2024? CT U21 Bloedorn, Carey Brian 17/09/2005 18 2024? CT U21 Krasniqi, Elliot 26/10/2005 18 2024? CT U21 Archer, Samual 20/01/2007 16 2025 CT U21 Warren, Charlie 24/11/2006 17 2025
Gunter, Maguire and Keeley have been rotated in the U21.
Keeley now out on loan and doing well.
I believe Gunter has been training with the first team.
Haven't seen any of the younger ones play.
Look how that turned out for the goons.I really hope that we sign a class backup for Vicario, good player but healthy competition is needed.
For the record I was not suggesting Southampton would take Royal.Yeah I’m sure Royal is high on their radar of up and coming players (assuming their scouts are both deaf and dumb).
You can’t pull the wool over their eyes nowadays, they have robust data and scouting - the days of lazy wankers like Phil brown, Redknapp etc taking a hand me down are long gone
Personally don't think it's worth it to spend £30m on a Madueke/Edwards/CCV/Walker-Peters just for squad numbers, especially if we end up in the Europa league. Rather us go in with a smaller squad, rely on youth for the extra depth and plan long term by signing players like Bergvall/Devine/Vuskovic that can eventually fill those spots. Said it before but would love us to go in big for Archie Gray this summer while he's still able to qualify as club-trained, would put us in an excellent position going forward.Madueke and Edwards also count as CT?
Whay about Carter-Vickers for the 4th CB spot?
Not sure if he would start initially but I think Ange would like him and he would get plenty of minutes because he's fairly high energy and works hard. I think he would be an excellent 6 in our system but can play all 3 midfield positions and could see Ange liking him as an 8. Also plenty of experience filling in at fullback so good coverArchie Gray seems to be a name that gets a ton of mentions.
Is he ready to play now?
It's midnight so I am not in the mood to look things up but what is the deal with Mr Jack Clarke?
15 league goals in 37 apps for Sunderland in mid table. A few assists to add?
Adam Smith on loan for a year
It's wrong, his buy-back expires 30th June 2024 so we have the start of the window if we wanted to sign him but might be unlikely now given his injury struggles.This article seems to suggest the Cirkin buy-back has now expired
Sunderland confirm Dennis Cirkin injury blow - but there is a silver lining... - Sports Illustrated Sunderland Nation
Dennis Cirkin has had surgery to correct his hamstring problem, and that means a mixed bag of news for Sunderland.www.si.com
Yeah looked really good in the games I've seen him play for Sunderland and was very promising for the academy but just seems to get every sort of injury now. Missed games for ankle injuries, concussion, hernia operation etc. in previous seasons and this year he's had hamstring problems so he only started a handful of games and has had to have hamstring surgery (similar to Sess) and been out for months. I think they want to keep him so could pretend we were going to activate it and then use that in a deal to sign Chris Rigg.Is he any good?
DOB | AGE | CONTRACT | |||
NHG | VICARIO Guglielmo | 07/10/1996 | 27 | 2028 | |
HG | FORSTER Fraser | 17/03/1988 | 35 | 2025 | |
CT | AUSTIN Brandon | 08/01/1999 | 24 | 2024 | |
CT | WHITEMAN Alfie | 02/10/1998 | 25 | 2025 | |
CT | U21 | Gunter, Luca | 23/03/2005 | 18 | 2025 |
NHG | U21 | Keeley, Josh | 17/05/2003 | 20 | 2024? |
CT | U21 | Maguire, Aaron | 25/07/2004 | 19 | 2024? |
CT | U21 | Bloedorn, Carey Brian | 17/09/2005 | 18 | 2024? |
CT | U21 | Krasniqi, Elliot | 26/10/2005 | 18 | 2024? |
CT | U21 | Archer, Samual | 20/01/2007 | 16 | 2025 |
CT | U21 | Warren, Charlie | 24/11/2006 | 17 | 2025 |
Keeley can't be on list B because he's been loaned out before he got to 2 years so will count as overseas on List A.Thought I would broaden the topic. Our eligible club trained players next season will be:
Lyons-Foster CB
Tanganga CB
Robson MF
Parrott Striker
Skipp MF
Austin GK
Whiteman GK
I believe Keeley GK can be included on List B as he has been with the club 2 years?
If that's correct perhaps Ange will let Whiteman leave. That would leave us the UEFA required 3 GKs and another GK that has at least some senior experience as he is currently on loan at Barnet.
Austin must surely be kept along with Skipp?
As he showed with Lloris, Ange will not let a space go unfilled.
Robson is currently training with the first team. I don't know how good he is or if he would be willing to be just a sub in UEFA games because he is unlikely to get an EPL HG slot.
Tanganga would surely not accept a similar role but perhaps Lyons-Foster would? He seems happy at THFC as an over-age player in the U21s.
I know we have exciting young strikers but Troy has been doing well on loan (7th top striker in Belgium for a mid table side).
He definitely would not accept just playing in Europe but if he impresses in pre-season maybe Ange would include Parrott in the EPL HG squad?
I can't see when Ange would ever play Robson - no professional games experience, not even a certain pick for u21's this season etc. Possibly only reason to consider him is his contract expires June 2025.
Given Santiago has been on bench a few times, surely he might be more likely ?
View: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1646907481568817153?s=20
If we ever wanted/needed a 25th player I suspect he'd use the most appropriate u21 player next season rather than keep on a 4th club trained player just for the sake of it.
I can't see when Ange would ever play Robson - no professional games experience, not even a certain pick for u21's this season etc. Possibly only reason to consider him is his contract expires June 2025.
Given Santiago has been on bench a few times, surely he might be more likely ?
View: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1646907481568817153?s=20
If we ever wanted/needed a 25th player I suspect he'd use the most appropriate u21 player next season rather than keep on a 4th club trained player just for the sake of it.
No, you could have 5 CT and 3 Association though
yeahThanks, Football Chap . Spursidol
Sorry for being thick but could you therefore have 16 NHG, 3 CT and 5 association players?
Or 15, 3 and 6?