5 Reasons Tottenham Are The Most Progressive Club In The League

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NorseYid said:
And have done so under three top sympathetic managers (well, for Brenda regarding the footy at least) who have aimed to play proper football no matter the context.

... and have used 'discarded' players from the top along with a whole string of players brought up through several promotions, our own Mark Gower a brilliant example.

As a compatriot, it's difficult to not have Laudrups side as a sort of 2nd PL team to sympathize with.

Laudrup is a born gentleman, courtious and intelligent. Played golf with him once.

Oh, and you don't get to get in this side by being a proper mug

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He's been saying the right things recently as well, I enjoyed reading his comments on here
http://www.football365.com/swansea/...esperate-to-manage-a-bigger-club-than-Swansea

Key bit:
The 48-year-old, who played for Real and Barcelona during his career, said: "I have ambition but I have never had any special dream to go to a specific team or a top team.
"Let's say that years ago I had set myself the ambition to become the manager of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester United, Chelsea or Juventus, and that I finally arrived after 10 years of trying.
"Let's say I finish second in the League, lose in the semi-finals of the Champions League after penalties and lose 2-1 in the national cup final.
"The club say: 'Sorry, no trophies. Thank you very much, goodbye.' I have done everything for 10 years and then after nine months I am out. You can't live like that.
"It gives me much more pleasure to see how well you can do where you don't have to win all the time.
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His problem is, that he is almost too much of an introvert thinker. Football is a mean business and players are sometimes almost like feral, flashmobbing youths. Just look at those chavs from Fulham Broadway.

Laudrup is much better off with up-and-coming talented players as well as being allowed to bring out his Agustiens, Guzmans and Michu's out of "nowhere".
 
S.L.R said:
Lol@ football clubs being described as socialist.
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Haha, was just about to post about that too, what a load of bollocks! Cause Wenger said so, it must be true! There is nothing socialist about paying millions to young blokes kicking a football about no matter how good at it they are, nor is there anything socialist about paying the manager over 7mil a year. Nor is there anything socialist about using your financial superiority to recruit players from smaller clubs. Nor is there anything socialist about charging a fortune for tickets to see said millionaires kicking a ball about, or having a massive commercial operation designed to wring as much money as possible from loyal fans, and thus being able to pay out healthy dividends to your shareholders, nor....well, you get my drift...
 
You've got to love Laudrup really, one of the very few players to remain a legend at both Barca and Real. Beautiful player who always kinda reminded me of Hoddle actually, so stylish, seemingly effortless at times. And to top it all off he seems like a genuinely nice guy, no great ego or anything like that.
 
I agree with a lot of the Swansea comments here but 'progressive' could be seen as a devisive term.

I think we see progressive as taking from one position to another, whereas if I was playing devil's advocate I might say Man United, to cycle through the generations of squads they have and maintain a bona fide championship challenge every year with spending that's not at the same levels of Chelsea or Man City is arguably as progressive as you can be.

That said it's hard not to like what Swansea have done and the way they have played consistently well since joining the prem, so much more endearing than Stoke!
 
Not sure about point 5. The table doesn't lie, but it's the one at the end of the season that holds the most truth and actually means something. I'm trying very hard to believe but last season's collapse is still very much in the memory.
 
78Spur said:
I agree with a lot of the Swansea comments here but 'progressive' could be seen as a devisive term.

I think we see progressive as taking from one position to another, whereas if I was playing devil's advocate I might say Man United, to cycle through the generations of squads they have and maintain a bona fide championship challenge every year with spending that's not at the same levels of Chelsea or Man City is arguably as progressive as you can be.

That said it's hard not to like what Swansea have done and the way they have played consistently well since joining the prem, so much more endearing than Stoke!
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Nice food for thought, but what Swansea have done in the past few years is remarkable.

I really would like to watch them sometime. That, and I'd really like to watch more Bundesliga.
 
CSWY said:
Not sure about point 5. The table doesn't lie, but it's the one at the end of the season that holds the most truth and actually means something. I'm trying very hard to believe but last season's collapse is still very much in the memory.
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I think last season's collapse was very much against the run of normal football. It really was one extreme to the other. Personally, I would be fine with us having a late season wobble, provided we still end up in fourth. Unless, by some utter miracle, the scum manage to overturn Bayern and go on to win the CL, then there is no threat to fourth this year. For me, in terms of keeping us as a top four side and maintaining our progression, fourth would be enough so that we get back into the CL. That is the most important thing. Finishing above the scum, and/or third, are just very sweet added bonus. I prefer with the bonuses than without, but I won't be having a grumble if fourth and CL is what we end up with.
 
Smoked Salmon said:
I think last season's collapse was very much against the run of normal football. It really was one extreme to the other. Personally, I would be fine with us having a late season wobble, provided we still end up in fourth. Unless, by some utter miracle, the scum manage to overturn Bayern and go on to win the CL, then there is no threat to fourth this year. For me, in terms of keeping us as a top four side and maintaining our progression, fourth would be enough so that we get back into the CL. That is the most important thing. Finishing above the scum, and/or third, are just very sweet added bonus. I prefer with the bonuses than without, but I won't be having a grumble if fourth and CL is what we end up with.
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I think 3rd is important. I think being guaranteed at least the group stage of the CL would mean we'd spend a little more freely in the summer before hand.
 
Smoked Salmon said:
I think last season's collapse was very much against the run of normal football. It really was one extreme to the other. Personally, I would be fine with us having a late season wobble, provided we still end up in fourth. Unless, by some utter miracle, the scum manage to overturn Bayern and go on to win the CL, then there is no threat to fourth this year. For me, in terms of keeping us as a top four side and maintaining our progression, fourth would be enough so that we get back into the CL. That is the most important thing. Finishing above the scum, and/or third, are just very sweet added bonus. I prefer with the bonuses than without, but I won't be having a grumble if fourth and CL is what we end up with.
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Am I right in thinking 3rd gets you straight into the group stage, yet 4th puts you in the final qualifying round?

That being the case I actually think 3rd does a hell of a lot more for our prospects than 4th.

As with our CL qualification last time it wasnt certain until we beat Young Boys which if memory serves wasnt until the second or third week of August.

This meant we had already finished our preseason, started the PL season and had only a short period to buy in players that will move to a CL club, but to good to step down.

Securing 3rd, for me, means we can do all our shopping early, there is no risk of a qualifying upset (ala Everton) and we can have a full and thorough pre season with our full strength squad giving us the best possible chance of hitting the ground running - for once!

That said it is of course theoretical, we all know Levy will still wait until midnight on deadline day to do his business :avbfacepalm:


EDIT - or iin other words what Raitei and YidoBuckler just said!
 
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