Thanks
Greaves357_bestever
for clarifying this for me.-
The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...
Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports
Greaves357_bestever
for clarifying this for me.
because i hate them. And their stadium. I even hate the red colour. We should burn the library not play OUR HOME games there
Ok. How did you feel when we signed Gallas and the whore?
Because to play in the pigpen would be silly. And it will never happen. So toot, toot.
No it wouldn't. It would make sense for us. I accept it won't happen but it is the correct option.
Fair enough, but they'd never let us.
and people say the club never listensTHEY RESPONDED TO MY CONCERNS! ON THE MICROSITE!
Which is exactly why this is not a problem. There is no chance that this would not have been considered by the club.
Most probable contingency is that whoever we agree a stadium tenancy with will include a second year option should we need it.
Point isn't that it's unlikely to overrun, point is there's no chance this won't be planned for.
I don't know. I still like TFC's chances at assessing risk better than whatever top-level City insurers Levy and Lewis hire.
On the contrary Greavsie, I certainly did read your post and several others regarding Enic and the new stadium proposals.
In fairness I have been more of a supporter than critic of you and your views and always feel that everyone should have the right to air their opinions without being personally attacked or abused.
I feel though that now you are so hung up on Enic and your total dislike/distrust of them that it is giving bias to some of your reasoning. I personally don't think there is any evidence whatsoever to suggest that full and thorough planning is not and will not be in place. I do not believe that Levy will risk any of the outcomes you fear but I guess there, we will just have to agree to disagree.
How can Spam block us rom sharing the OS? They are renting it, they do not own it.
They have even used taxpayer money to convert it, paying fuck all themselves, so how do they have that right?
So, when state aid claims are issued it's nothing to do with them, it's the LDDC, but when someone else would like to rent the stadium for one season it's their decision?
They were reluctant to pay anything in th first place, and coughed up £5m, cunts.The were forced to up that to £15m
Surely they cannnot also receive money from sponsorship in naming the stadium, yet they say they are entitled to a share? Fuck me, the cough up £15m, which was like getting blood out of a stone, are paying £2m, yes just £2m a year for rent and they want a share of the naming rights, negotiated by the LDDC, of a stadium they don't own.
Are the LDDC and West Ham are partnership ffs. This is a national scandal
They have even used taxpayer money to convert it, paying fuck all themselves, so how do they have that right?
So, when state aid claims are issued it's nothing to do with them, it's the LDDC, but when someone else would like to rent the stadium for one season it's their decision?
They were reluctant to pay anything in th first place, and coughed up £5m, cunts.The were forced to up that to £15m
Surely they cannnot also receive money from sponsorship in naming the stadium, yet they say they are entitled to a share? Fuck me, the cough up £15m, which was like getting blood out of a stone, are paying £2m, yes just £2m a year for rent and they want a share of the naming rights, negotiated by the LDDC, of a stadium they don't own.
Are the LDDC and West Ham are partnership ffs. This is a national scandal
No probs Rob, glad to helpThanks
Fair enough, each to their own etc. You are wrong that I totally dislike/distrust ENIC, I have praised them on many occasions.
Indeed on this particular issue I am not criticising them at all, though certain people, including perhaps you, are misreading what I say.
I am simply saying that ENIC now face a massive task ahead of them to get this right.
Of course you could argue that by leaving us needing to move to a temporary stadium, ENIC have left us open to various possible problems. But that has not been been the thrust of my argument on this particular matter. The need to move is a fait accompli, I am now addressing the dangers implicit in such a move, and would be discussing them whoever was in charge.
Last edited:
Hi DG, AFAIK, West Ham can only block us in their first year at the OS, but we would need it in their 2nd and perhaps 3rd year there, so they cannot block our sharing the stadium. Of course they can oppose it, and probably would.
There are various problems, and they have been discussed many times, including MPs and the Mayor having their say on it. There is the problem of addressing fixture clashes (traditionally we get to play at home when Woolwich are away, West Ham alternating with us might cause problems there). There is the problem of security and policing. There is the problem that the Prem would want guarantees that both clubs could deliver all their Prem games there in an 'unfettered' manner. There would doubtless be other problems too. The fact that we have no 'ITK'/reliable news that Spurs are interested in going for the OS may well indicate we're not interested. It seems ENIC are going for Wembley/MK Dons, and in reality it's MK Dons all the way AFAIC.
BTW I'm glad to see someone else other than me talking about what a scandal the OS 'carve up' has been. A lot of people on here seem to think West Ham haven't got a great deal at all, indeed the way they go on about how rubbish the OS is, they must think West Ham are overpaying at £2m a year
Everyone thinks West Ham got a great deal, most people however don't see it as something which will turn them into Man City or Chelsea.
HahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaAs I have said many a time I'm very worried about our 'temporary move'. Leaving our fate in the hands of another club, Wembley, whatever, is something that makes me very nervous.
We stand the risk of becoming hostages to fortune, or more precisely, ill-fortune. What happens if the building works on our new stadium overrun? Doubtless we will draw up contracts with all sorts of 'safety net clauses', but life has a horrible habit of going wrong, and the law sometimes isn't sufficient to put it right.
It looks like Milton Keynes will be our temporary home, as we should be able to deliver our fixtures to a standard the Prem requires from there. But it's not ideal, to say the least.
The thought of us fucking up on this, and getting chucked out of the Prem because we don't have a home fit for purpose is frightening to say the least. A 61k stadium in the Conference
Getting this move right and us safely back into the new stadium is going to be the biggest challenge ENIC have faced during their ownership of this club, I hope they're up to the task.
Oh I've missed this place.
What a mental old shit.
is shocking, isnt it..he thinks that multi billionaire businessmen wont have considered what do to if it overruns
even for a good deal, its gonna cost them about 400 million minimum. 100 yr lease, 2 million a year. 5000 tickets given away per game to the council. even if its the cheap, 20 tickets that are closer to WHL than their pitch (and Im betting they aint..Im betting some of them are gonna be top of the line. cant expect the local politicians not to have the very best, can we?), thats 100k per game. just shy of 2 million per season. thats approx 400 million. before you take into account the lost revenue from catering, hospitality etc . and at the end of the day, they will be paying 400 million for nothing to show at the end of it all.
Greaves only looks at the little picture. That's why his dissenters go on ignore.
Wouldn`t be as bad if the ground was near here, but it ain`t !
Forget the stadium for a sec, what is currently giving me sleepless nights is the thought of Poch fielding only 8 players in our first game. I know its unlikely, but by god it could happen.