9 points away from home since October. Thrashed by Brighton, Fulham and Newcastle.
WOW!!!!
Didn't realise is that bad. That's absolutely shocking.
The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...
9 points away from home since October. Thrashed by Brighton, Fulham and Newcastle.
Terrible but, hardly a shock, especially as I don't think we have kept a clean sheet since before Christmas.WOW!!!!
Didn't realise is that bad. That's absolutely shocking.
Man City and Liverpool absolutely do play a high line though. Ridiculously high.
The main difference is they're much better in the final third when it comes to ball retention as well as winning it back when they lose it (or making niggly fouls to stop counters)
City have conceded sooooo many goals this season due to their back line being far too high.
Will Ange adapt? I think his overall philosophy, no. But I think next season when he drills the guys tactically, mixed in with a much better eleven, the goals conceded column will look alot better (like it would if you took away the 12 goals we conceded with Emerson/Davies CB pairing)
Van Dijk is the rock at the back for Liverpool,does same job Ferdinand done for Utd for years,no high line needed there as there reading of the game means they dont even break sweat,dont think either have ever tweaked a hammy!Man City and Liverpool absolutely do play a high line though. Ridiculously high.
The main difference is they're much better in the final third when it comes to ball retention as well as winning it back when they lose it (or making niggly fouls to stop counters)
City have conceded sooooo many goals this season due to their back line being far too high.
Will Ange adapt? I think his overall philosophy, no. But I think next season when he drills the guys tactically, mixed in with a much better eleven, the goals conceded column will look alot better (like it would if you took away the 12 goals we conceded with Emerson/Davies CB pairing)
Are you sure you’re new, because you sound like a seasoned veteran. Just wait until you meet next year’s Saha and Nelson.Historically Postecoglou has had major clean outs and been able to get who needs. I'm new to this forum so I'm getting picture that isn't necessarily going to happen this time, haha.
I do think next season is the acid test.I didn’t say injuries I said we are not doing it correctly. That there are performances that have effected the way we play that there is now fear in the way we play which causes mistakes. Look at the first two goals against Newcastle one where Udogie was out muscled by Gordon because he was scared. Then the second from kickoff we played it back to Vicario and then to Porro, then a sliced pass played them in.
We are playing with fear especially Bissouma. You cannot play attacking football with fear. This fear has leaked into our game. I have seen the fear in our game since Christmas. I don’t know what did it and I am sure Ange sees it too.
WOW!!!!
Didn't realise is that bad. That's absolutely shocking.
Terrible but, hardly a shock, especially as I don't think we have kept a clean sheet since before Christmas.
People have convinced themselves we're better than we are.
Worrying that our remaining games are mostly away to good teams.
7/10 teams we played in the first 10 games current positions.
12
13
14
15
18
19
20
Teams we play last 10 current positions.
6 in the top 10. Let’s see how we do.
1
2
3
6
8
9
It's frightening when you think that a) teams have had a season now to figure us out and b) we ourselves seem to have regressed a lot IMO7/10 teams we played in the first 10 games current positions.
12
13
14
15
18
19
20
Teams we play last 10 current positions.
6 in the top 10. Let’s see how we do.
1
2
3
6
8
9
It's frightening when you think that a) teams have had a season now to figure us out and b) we ourselves seem to have regressed a lot IMO
I am rather worried about our remaining games tbh.
WOW!!!!
Didn't realise is that bad. That's absolutely shocking.
We have been cack away from home for ages. Towards the end of Poch’s spell we went an entire year without an away win.
Nothing about Ange persistently insisting he'll never do that, indicates that he will ever do that.You can't blame injuries since late January.
9 points away from home since October. Thrashed by Brighton, Fulham and Newcastle.
Our tactics have been found out and we need to change or die. (by die, I mean the innevitable nosedive next season and another sacked coach)
You can't blame injuries since late January.
9 points away from home since October. Thrashed by Brighton, Fulham and Newcastle.
How many points have any teams won away from home since October?
Regarding your point, here's the top 4 and us:
Woolwich - 24
Liverpool - 24
Man City - 20
Aston Villa - 22
Spurs - 10
Points won away from home since end of October. There's a reason they're above us and all deserve to be. No shame in that.
We've got the 5th best away record in the league overall this season too. With of course only the current top four above us, again.
All depends. We still need to improve our first team strength but we need to do that with or without Angeball. If obviously the biggest problem Levy is not bought in we are in trouble no matter who is manager.I do think next season is the acid test.
My gut feeling is that it'll be a bit of a shock as we don't progress, but I really do want to be wrong.
I've certainly convinced myself we are better than we were.People have convinced themselves we're better than we are.
Worrying that our remaining games are mostly away to good teams.
I don't think anything less than a title challenge is a disaster, but to be the first team to throw away top 4 after our good start to the season would be concerning. We all know that the fixtures favoured us slightly at the beginning, but yeah I'm most disappointed if we throw a title challenge away due to insanity against Chelsea at home, and if we throw top 4 away again due to not learning a basic lesson against Newcastle away.We are a decent distance behind them.
Not really excusable.
Sticking by my take that anything less than a title charge is a fucking disaster for this club now but I'll deal with that disaster given the context and circumstances of this season.
God that's horrific!Regarding your point, here's the top 4 and us:
Woolwich - 24
Liverpool - 24
Man City - 20
Aston Villa - 22
Spurs - 10
Points won away from home since end of October. There's a reason they're above us and all deserve to be. No shame in that.
We've got the 5th best away record in the league overall this season too. With of course only the current top four above us, again.