Careful, I've been accused of claiming Liverpool are acting as victims for some other reason other than the gane at the weekendWhy wasn't there more written about the penalty that Wolves didn't get vs Man Utd?
Liverpool make it look like they're the only victims of wrong decisions from VAR ever. Not to talk about all the pre-VAR decisions in their favor.
Liverpool demand to receive access to the VAR audio from Diaz's goal
Liverpool have demanded that referees' chiefs release the audio of the bungled VAR call that cost them a goal at Tottenham on Saturday.www.dailymail.co.uk
OLIVER HOLT: A replay is a step too far over VAR error
OLIVER HOLT: Discontent about the VAR system , about the standard of refereeing and the current interpretation of the handball rule has been simmering and now it has boiled over.
Liverpool's ultimate aim in VAR row becomes clear as new evidence comes to light
Liverpool are seeking answers from the PGMOL over their disallowed goal in Saturday's 2-1 defeat to Tottenham, but they do not want a replay contrary to some suggestionswww.mirror.co.uk
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Don't need to, got a bunch of them living next door to me.Anyone else looking through there phone contacts to find an liverpoo fan to wind up
Haven't seen them the last couple of days, which might have a lot to do with me playing the game repeatedly on my phone...
In the back garden ...
At maximum volume.
One of them likes a spliff out there. I'll be willing to bet he hasn't enjoyed a single draw over the last few days.
It's quite mild out at the moment, might just watch the second half again...
No but then you've got idiotic ex-footballers and current players/managers who don't know the rules and think that as long as Bissouma's leg wasn't snapped in 2 then it's "very harsh"
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"Wasn't intentional" so fucking what
"Jones is a good lad" and this is relevant how
"He's not that type of player" well clearly he fucking well is
I welcome all these red cards. Maybe over the course of a few seasons of this attitude to "reckless" then we may reduce the amount of players who have to retire through terrible injuries. I'm encouraged that under Ange we seem to have improved our discipline. Sure, a fair few yellows, but no one's got close to a red yet that I can remember.
And if people actually thought things through properly, then a referee's key metrics should include
"no one got carried off an a stretcher on my watch"
View: https://x.com/LFC/status/1709267123766186445?s=20
My only surprise is the ban was not increased by a frivolous appeal of the potential leg breaker
It was only a matter of time...
Klopp's rage
Poor angry Jurgen can't stand the fact that VAR didn't give Liverpool the match.www.captiongenerator.com
That is grounds for a replay & I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks.
So they are either complete and utter fucking no brain, empty headed idiots with no business being near football ever again. Or they are fixing the game whether in bias or more nefarious reasons in plain sight. Fucking hell, pretty damning to be honest.
I refuse to believe they are this stupid to be honest.
Gotta love how this rings massive alarm bells for the whole VAR operation yet there are rival fans whose reaction is "see, it was just a mistake". Like Liverpool fans expected the audio to say take that you Scouse bastards...
Now we need to demand our point, don't give a shit what happens to Spurs, they can keep 3 for all I care but we deserve ours.
I had just about got over it today but listening to that has made me fucking rage.
Incompetence? This is cheating/match fixing/corruption - take your pick Game has to be replayed
It's like getting run over by a car and then someone showing you the video while you're lying with broken bones in hospital.
Pray for him....
The service will be held at 11am on Sunday...
Everyone is invited back to the house for the Shivva afterwards.
I wish him "Long Life!"
If you know, you know!
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It’s not nearly as bad as some of you make it.
The issues I found:
There’s a ton of chatter. The first thing we hear is the linesman talking to the center, saying a few times “both pushing”. It’s not very value added and it’s distracting.
Once the goal happens, they actually do a pretty nice job deciding it’s onside. Obviously, the problem is they don’t actually say it’s onside and use a terrible phrase like check complete.
Obviously, there’s confusion in the several seconds after play is restarted. Once they figure out what happened, the ref makes a smart decision to say stop the game. Then someone overrules him and says they can’t.
That’s a big mistake. The point of refereeing is to get the call right. They could have gotten the call right. Nothing useful happened in those few seconds play restarted.
The issues I found:
There’s a ton of chatter. The first thing we hear is the linesman talking to the center, saying a few times “both pushing”. It’s not very value added and it’s distracting.
Once the goal happens, they actually do a pretty nice job deciding it’s onside. Obviously, the problem is they don’t actually say it’s onside and use a terrible phrase like check complete.
Obviously, there’s confusion in the several seconds after play is restarted. Once they figure out what happened, the ref makes a smart decision to say stop the game. Then someone overrules him and says they can’t.
That’s a big mistake. The point of refereeing is to get the call right. They could have gotten the call right. Nothing useful happened in those few seconds play restarted.
I'm not sure that's a good idea though. What is the threshold? They can stop play for a decision 5 seconds after it happens? 15 seconds? 1 minute? 5 minutes?
I wonder if they will just introduce changes more around like, specific wording that needs to be used. Like, if it's an offsides decision, they have to say "Goal" or "No goal."
It
Needed to be done.
In no way am I defending anyone involved in this or in the system itself, but any time there is a human element there is always inherently an opportunity for a total and complete fuck up. VAR was never going to eliminate any complaints, so anyone expecting perfection was just expecting unrealistic things.
At a minimum there is always going to be a certain amount of subjectivity to it all as well, but maybe not so on offsides or ball crossing a line, etc. So, there are two options going forward:
1. Just accept that human error is a part of the game and just do away with VAR entirely and everyone will just take their luck as it happens.
2. Implement as many automated systems as possible to eliminate the human aspect wherever possible.
There is also probably a certain element that the continued complaints about the drag on the speed and flow of the game with may have created this issue. It was a very basic and simplistic error but appears to be that taking an additional 5-10 seconds may have changed the outcome.
We have basically made a worse situation in the search for perfection.
At a minimum there is always going to be a certain amount of subjectivity to it all as well, but maybe not so on offsides or ball crossing a line, etc. So, there are two options going forward:
1. Just accept that human error is a part of the game and just do away with VAR entirely and everyone will just take their luck as it happens.
2. Implement as many automated systems as possible to eliminate the human aspect wherever possible.
There is also probably a certain element that the continued complaints about the drag on the speed and flow of the game with may have created this issue. It was a very basic and simplistic error but appears to be that taking an additional 5-10 seconds may have changed the outcome.
We have basically made a worse situation in the search for perfection.