Shame charles bronson lost his parole hearing today, given he's spurs I think he would have brought a great skill set to the enic out movement.... Ere joan Thomas grease me up will ya.
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He was probably on the short list for the vacant manager position, but said "fuck that I ain't working with levy take me back"
#FrankCam
ENIC can take credit for trophies won by Spurs before they take over?
If that was your original point, you are even more lost in this debate than I thought.
Let's see how it sheiks out (
)They have a shot ton of debt and need a new stadium. Even for Qatari's, it just doesn't make business sense to invest all that and the 400m they need to refresh their aging squad.
Zokora replaced Carrick and was a massive downgrade.
I think the alarmists and " DOOM SAYERS " just getting on the bandwagaon to spread more negativity... if this is looked at pragmatically , rather than just looking for the worst on purpose and spinning it.
Im no levy lover (bald cunts needs ousting ASAP!!)... but BALDY defo together with the club would have done their due diligence together with legal counsel on this 1000% the most RISK AVERSE leader in PL History .
Paratici is implicated by association, he wasnt making the decisions/ final decision, he wasnt signing off and he wasnt the mastermind behind that plan, it was the AGNELLI's and the board. FP carried out the negotiations with the clubs after the AGNELLI's and board instructed him as that was his job. Also pricing of a player is subjective one team values their player at XXXXX millions , market value is an estimate until negotiations and rivals bids compete to inflate prices.... ALSO a kicker here is that buyout clauses nowerdays are set at ridiculous amounts 500M or 1BN, which essentially is what they are valuing the player at. The price they put on the financials was what they valued the player was, for example apart from united no one would have paid 80M for Maguire even at that time, Chavs 75M for fofana? Enzo Fernandez was £10M MV a year ago and chavz paid £100M... if you put that value on your spreadsheets as player valuation before and you would be deemed as the same offence juventus have been accused of. Players valuation also have future potential attributed to them aswell
Juventus have done exactly what CHAVS have been doing for years over paying for youth and portion of first teamers and then just loaning then out with big buyout clauses say for example the signing of Romero for £20M Juve then loan him out to Atalanta with a buyout clause for more than double the fee they bought , he has a good season sell him for £45M, players actual valuation rose mid-season while he was at Atalanta and eventually he was Defender of the year in Serie A , but Juve had already increased his value on potential, just like Chavs have done with all their dodgy loaness and tbf many many other clubs have too (just not to the level of the dirty chavz)
CHAV's and MAN City have been doing way more way way way more illicit shit in more than just one area for many many years , slap on the wrist fines (ok they can afford them but that not the point plus how many teams apart from them can afford 50M fines)
As mentioned above FP is implicated by association or being employed at a director level, but he wasnt the decision maker, man who signs off the mastermind or the instigator,
Chavs and Man City take a different approach. Rather than faking transfers and player value (likeJuve), they fake the top line revenue through commercials deals > market value which is much harder to challenge
False. Click on the quotes to retrace the thread.
Somebody used the fact we were 4th most successful club based on trophies before Enic took over to bash the leadership. I pointed out we’d still be 4th were it not for city and Chelsea.
You know… those clubs that have completely changed the footballing landscape in this country by harnessing the wealth of a nation to give them an undesirable advantage over honest clubs like ourselves.
So before ENIC we were 4th most successful.
During their reign, we are less successful than what 6/7 clubs, including Leicester....
Not sure what your point is. Not sure you know what your point is.
Not really, they just can afford the most expensive legal counsel to help dodge their CRIMES , same with PSG, as they did the same at city in sponsorship via their owners through partnerships and shell corps funded by the owners.
How long do we have to play our tiny violins for Daniel? The disgusting bastards could invest some of their gains to challenge the aforementioned (and in turn increase the value of their investment) but no. Self funding paupers, whilst the tax avoiding scumbags count their speculative gains in the Bahamas whilst we take cock from our rivals
Agree with everything you say except for the fail to fight back philosophy, watching us lose will never give me pleasure. I was here before ENIC and will still be here after them, Joe Lewis aint no Benjamin Button and his departure from this mortal coil is sure to put a cat amongst the shitehawks.
I see what he means. We would still be fourth most successful but wow, hardly a glowing endorsement. The trophies were won prior
Agree - but the faux partnerships and shell corps are much harder to challenge (whereas Juve have faux transfer contracts which are more straightforward to police). It’s breaking FFP but in a different manner
I told you my point and I explained why Leicester do not have more trophies than us. I can’t explain to you gain that 5 is less than 18.
Next time don’t get involved in other peoples discussions if you can’t be bothered to read what their discussion was about.
10 now
Anyone else seen this 
Did someone say Banter Club!
Did someone say Banter Club!
Yeah, this. Chelsea and City have used a variety of financial engineering that makes it harder to prove, while Juventus was just conducting transfer business involving visibly fraudulent valuations, and it was noted at the time as well. Plenty of people were ringing alarm bells about it. I think that if the club looked at that business, which Paratici was emphatically involved in at a decision-making level, and felt that there was nothing concerning, that speaks rather poorly of their due diligence/research process.