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I'd rather not as I have "better" things to do and most people here tend to accept posts they don't agree with or don't understand, or posters they are on different tones to... or alternatively just say "cunt", post a funny gif and move the fuck on. All options I would prefer, however, I'll give in just this once as my work is unfortunately even more boring and if it stops us having more of these discussions it may be worth it (but probably not).
Seems theres an awful lot of "arent our fans shit" from the "redknapp is a wanker" brigade..... what if you got it really wrong?
I was replying, tongue-in-cheek, to the post above separating Spurs fans into brigades. I questioned if our fans weren't shit or Redknapp wasn't a wanker in order to gauge the implication of what the "awful lot" got wrong... I realise this was unnecessary, but I felt Eskimo's post was equally unnecessary regarding the Wigan match.
So our support is fantastic and Arry didn't mug us off at all?
We lost 1-0 to Wigan under him as well. Bottom line is sitting silent or abusing our team only helps the opposition so it's an idiotic thing to do if you actually support Tottenham.
Note the question mark and LOL face after my first line which you missed a couple of times in quotation. Furthermore, note the acceptance that we lost 1-0 to Wigan, have done so in the past, and the bottom line was the the support in this game could have been better, not the discussion of Arry - this is because the result has been the the same for this game regardless of managers or whomever thinks whomever is a wanker. But I can easily agree to disagree and move on here, I assume Eskimo and the rest of the forum did.
Indeed I furthered these intentions to move on.
Our fans are brilliant, just like Tottenham are brilliant. But neither turned up today. Roll on Thursday night!
This is where your response to me comes in.
"Us"? So now, despite this thread being full of how fucking shit some of our support is, when it comes to Harry's comment you see Spurs fans as one unit. I dont, Im disgusted by some of our support.
You want to bring up why I say "us" with regards to Spurs fans, what this thread is full of, Harry's comment about Spurs fans, and being disgusted by your definition of some of our support. In hindsight here is what I could have replied:
Or alternatively left it alone. But I realise the Internet can be a confusing place and you asked me a question, or at least a confused statement with a question mark. So I decided to help you out a bit with this:
This thread is about the Wigan match. My post wasn't related to Harry's comment or everyone else's posts in this thread. Yes, I see Spurs fans as one unit. One unit in the San Siro, one unit at United/Fulham away, one unit that came together for Muamba, one unit at Wigan at home. What's the point in creating further divisions amongst our own?
Some of our fans that abuse our team are the same that have invested heavily during the shit times and sang loudest as well, some of them are not - it really doesn't matter to me. I personally don't think it helps, but each to their own. I'm not in any "Redknapp is a wanker brigade" or "our fans are shit brigade" which is what my post was referring to.
I disagreed with Arry, but I still wanted him to learn from mistakes and do well for Tottenham and be a better Tottenham manager. I'll disagree with AVB too. The manager, the team and the fans as a collective unit didn't turn up yesterday for a variety of reasons. That doesn't mean I want AVB out, our team out, our fans out, or think our club is shit etc. - but even if it did, we can put any differences aside and still come together and support Tottenham for 90 minutes.
I just want everyone to learn from this experience and react positively as opposed to having a go at each-other. I think we will on Thursday night. We can sing for the shirt from the beginning so we aren't left wondering what would have happened if we had a better atmosphere and energy from the start... if you don't want to do that then fine. But I recommend our support as a collective to try it out and see if it helps the performance of the team.
To which you replied:
I think we agree here. I too believe that Spurs fans should have a common goal and should unite, but was severely shot down on that here:
http://www.thefightingcock.co.uk/forum/threads/my-god.3360/
Thats why I dont see us as one unit, and when the negative boo boys get called cunts, Im not offended by that, as we are not the same type of fan.
I didn't reply to this as it seems to be another topic in which you may have taken a joke the wrong way or personally taken a comment out of context that I wasn't even involved in. Either way you missed the common goal was to support Spurs for the full 90, regardless of manager discussion.
But you replied again:
Without wanting to be accused of being argumentative or anything, this is the line I responded to:
"So our support is fantastic and Arry didn't mug us off at all?
We lost 1-0 to Wigan under him as well."
I dont see how you can then go back and imply I was the one taking it off topic?
As I explained above, the context was a lot longer than that. But regardless, people read things and imply things differently. Furthermore, even if you read something and you are on the same wavelength and someone does disagree with you why not just accept it?
I've had fundamental philosophical and global political debates on here, thoroughly disagreeing on major issues, but still been offered a pint for the next match by the guy I've disagreed with.
I'll happily buy you a beer at Maribor. Not because I agree with everything you say on an individual experience level, but because you're Spurs (and it is easier than shanking you).
Sorry, almost forgot...