They were both crap today and thats why one of them was subbed off.
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Sissoko is not a DM. Our midfielders are also supposed to create or at least facilitate creativity by passing out of midfield. Our FB's are definitely supposed to create, especially when they are WB';s and we don't play any lateral AM's.
Sissoko didn't even do his own job, let alone anyone else's.
You remind of a bloke on SC (Gibbs) who kept telling everyone Modric was shit.
You really talk some utter fucking nonsense sometimes.
I think Winks sub turned the game in their favour because he was the one cleaning up for the 14 million times Sissoko lost the ball.
And I’m a certified “Sissoko lover”.
His energy was missed, and that last goal doesn’t happen with Winksy out there.
All the subs were detrimental today, and Poch has been getting a lot recently, just not today.
Kane starting was ok for me.....but chucking in wave after wave of attacking players was just naive.
We used wing play, but the wing play was poor......needed to go through the middle and make a braver decision in who he subbed off
Fucking hell.
Yeah, Poch just throwing on attacking player after attacking player was odd and seemed very unlike Poch to be honest. We needed to keep control of the game and we took the only one who could control off in Winks.
Sissoko has been on good form but today wasn't his game, his game is to get the ball and run with it, but with Burnley playing with numerous men behind the ball, it was never going to work for him, we needed intricacy and Sissoko is about as far from that as possible.
It's genuinely no surprise that as soon as Winks went off, Burnley opened up more and took the game to us because they know they had midfield from there on out.
Hopefully something Poch will learn from.
Sissoko has been on good form but today wasn't his game, his game is to get the ball and run with it, but with Burnley playing with numerous men behind the ball, it was never going to work for him, we needed intricacy and Sissoko is about as far from that as possible.
It's genuinely no surprise that as soon as Winks went off, Burnley opened up more and took the game to us because they know they had midfield from there on out.
Hopefully something Poch will learn from.
Sissoko was toilet today....I was taking the piss out of your ridiculous argument that Eriksen has to do Sissokos job and that’s why he was poor (while claiming Eriksen wasn’t poor at the same time, make your mind up)
If Eriksen lost his discipline and neglected his role because he took it upon himself to play as a hybrid DM/CB then that’s on him.
But that did t happen did it. He was just completely ineffective for the vast majority of the game but unlike other weeks, he couldn’t mask it with a goal or assist.
I often wonder if I was watching the same game.
An on-field leader is needed to shake the lethargy out of everyone. No good having a captain standing between the posts.
I can understand why Poch played Sissoko and Winks due to it working against Dortmund. But by the same logic, we should have had Vertonghen at left back and started with Moura.
Kane off the bench would have been a great option, but it is a lot easier to see now.
Regardless, it is clear we lack a leader in defensive midfield.
I don't really blame Sissoko and Winks for not stepping up but at the same time it is a serious problem for the rest of the Premier League season.
Kane off the bench would have been a great option, but it is a lot easier to see now.
Regardless, it is clear we lack a leader in defensive midfield.
I don't really blame Sissoko and Winks for not stepping up but at the same time it is a serious problem for the rest of the Premier League season.
Think it’s alright to be angry after that performance. There was a huge amount riding on that game and we knew what we were in for but instead we got bullied all over the pitch. We were lethargic in possession and looked toothless in the final third.
I get top teams lose these types of games and you can’t always play well but given what was riding on today, the manner of the defeat was just really disappointing.
Also i wish ppl would stop using this ‘do you remember the days of Christian Gross’ as an argument against fans being pissed off. This team and manager is so good, the best in my life and because of that, it raises expectations and quite rightly, because we’re such a good side and have some exceptionally gifted individuals it’s perfectly acceptable to be pissed off at losing to Burnley with a limp performance.
I get top teams lose these types of games and you can’t always play well but given what was riding on today, the manner of the defeat was just really disappointing.
Also i wish ppl would stop using this ‘do you remember the days of Christian Gross’ as an argument against fans being pissed off. This team and manager is so good, the best in my life and because of that, it raises expectations and quite rightly, because we’re such a good side and have some exceptionally gifted individuals it’s perfectly acceptable to be pissed off at losing to Burnley with a limp performance.
I really can't believe some of this stuff.
some of the theories and tosh being put to print..........
some of the theories and tosh being put to print..........
and yet, if Man Utd beat the dippers tomorrow, we will remain in contention
Hello lads, Burnley fan here. I see there's not much credit coming our way but understandable being a Spurs forum.
My wife's family who are Spurs were at Turf Moor and they thought we were worthy winners.
Believe me this was a massive win for us, not been home long after a pub crawl around Burnley to celebrate.
I thought everything went through Erikson in 1st half but managed to keep him quiet in the 2nd, Son was dissapointing, I expected better as he is a great player.
What a player Kane is, you would never know he's been out for weeks, his pace for the goal was fantastic, our players couldn't get near him.
The ref came in for some stick off your fans but come on, they're all crap, we all have our share of dodgy refs.
Anyway, mixed family here of Burnley & Spurs so here's hoping Spurs win all their remaining games and finish above the Scousers and Burnley stay up of course, desperate to go to the new stadium.
My wife's family who are Spurs were at Turf Moor and they thought we were worthy winners.
Believe me this was a massive win for us, not been home long after a pub crawl around Burnley to celebrate.
I thought everything went through Erikson in 1st half but managed to keep him quiet in the 2nd, Son was dissapointing, I expected better as he is a great player.
What a player Kane is, you would never know he's been out for weeks, his pace for the goal was fantastic, our players couldn't get near him.
The ref came in for some stick off your fans but come on, they're all crap, we all have our share of dodgy refs.
Anyway, mixed family here of Burnley & Spurs so here's hoping Spurs win all their remaining games and finish above the Scousers and Burnley stay up of course, desperate to go to the new stadium.
Agree that we look shit playing 3 central defenders, and it baffles me why we use it against teams in the bottom half of the table! We certainly loose offensive power. Our best formation is 4-2-3-1
One thing that both annoys and baffles me is that almost every time we have some kind of extended break, we're invariably shit the very next game. Honestly, we're much better when we have game after game.
I'd love to know what goes on at that training ground. 10 days off yet based on today's gloriously well-worked and meticulously-planned short corners it seems not a lot.
I'd love to know what goes on at that training ground. 10 days off yet based on today's gloriously well-worked and meticulously-planned short corners it seems not a lot.
I will be more worried about keeping 3rd place
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If we win our next two then all is forgotten and forgiven - could easily have won today as expected and drawn with the Chavs ans Woolwich both of which would be respectable. Appreciate it hasn’t happened yet but point I’m trying to make is, in a weeks time everything could look a lot more rosy!
I think we drastically lost our shape when we opted for the gung ho approach. The 2-3 minutes building up to their goal we were so sloppy at the back, hacking & slicing balls away instead of getting your foot on it and making the most of the attacking quality we had on the pitch. A couple of players started to flap, Sissoko, Aurier & Eriksen I remember swiping recklessly at a poor Burnley pass that was intercepted, those kind of things gave them a lot of reason to commit players forward and keep the pressure on us at the back and they got their reward. If that 2nd goal doesn't go in we'd have seen a different Tottenham in the last 7-8 minutes I'm sure.
Still as you say, you live and you learn. I admire Poch for being ballsy but I do think he panicked a little