Tottenham Hotspur v Brighton (26th Dec) (12:30pm)

[Boltonspur]

Pretty poor first half. Harry was unlucky with the offside (VAR is shit) and if we go ahead, I think we cruise the game... but poor defending cost us and almost cost us again.
The lack of a specialist DM to protect our defenders is becoming ever more depressing and it’s at the point where I’d take Matic (rinses our foul taste from mouth). We need to address this urgently because it hurts us at some point in every game.
Thought Sessegnon was promising. He did fade, but he’s had little game time and lacks the match fitness.
second half I thought we were much better. Great reaction on the rebound from Harry to equalise, & a fucking peach (a peach I tell you) from Dele to win it.
What really pisses me off is how bad the chavs are. We should be above them now and sitting pretty in 4th. I didn’t post on that match thread because I was gutted at how bad we were in that game.

I just hope we can string together some good results now, address our gaping hole in midfield, and push on strongly to overtake those chav shits.

For Gods sake Spurs, let’s bloody do this!!

 

[Trojanhorse]

To win some fucking trophies, 3 in a decade is reasonable, 1 in nearly 2 decades is shit.

We've got two signings we all wanted at the beginning of latest transfer window, we sold Tripps as most people wanted, now we replaced Poch with manager that has won everything, repeatedly, with every club he's been into, paid him shitloads of money (twice much as Klopp earns, if I remember good?) and still people moan, shout Levy out, want the club to do what? Pay other PL teams to give up every match? I still remember from my lurking times, how some of you predicted that now we are gonna smash Liverpoo and City. Only 5-0, because of no new right back, but with him it'd be 10-0 for sure. I guess you deserve to be sacked as well? In the last decade or so, there is no club in whole Europe that made such big progress as we did. Stadium, reputation, constant top of the table, despite terrible luck in CL group draws and being thrown into hardest ones we still were predicted to go to knockout stages. CL final, etc etc etc etc, I can go on like this for few hours. And STILL, somehow there is so much negativity all around. Every player has to be instantly sold after one bad game. Including Kane. Mou already deserves being sacked. So does Levy. What about supporting the club, instead of being... this?

 

[Hrytn]

Another hard game to watch. I'm not seeing anything different in performances or when Mourinho says he has spent the last year adapting his methods.

Mark Lawerenson recommends specsavers

 

[Airfixx]

Mark Lawerenson recommends specsavers

Epic irony.

Regardless.... Obviously; prize winning insight is imminent?

 

[Yid_1984]

Badly need a world class DM and a good RWB as a back up for Aurier. this team won't make much progress unless there is a world class DM that will allow Lo Celso and Ndombele (or even winks) the freedom to play higher up the pitch

 

[Spaniel]

Working Christmas and Boxing Day so I didn't get to see the game. From the posts, it's sounds like the usual game of 2 halves. We can't seem to put a whole game together anymore.
Sounds like a complete turnaround when CE and GLC came on. I can only deduce from Mou's last few lineups that he's really setting him self up for the 2nd half of the season by really probing our weaknesses by playing Dier/Sissoko/Winks combos, starting Lucas etc etc. He's sussed out Rose already. I don't expect to see any significant buying any time soon as we all know that clubs don't want to deal with Levy and doesn't want to spend money. If Mou can keep us within sniffing distance of 4th place with the material he has now, I expect to see some pretty expensive players coming in the summer.

 

[SouthStand Billy]

We've got two signings we all wanted at the beginning of latest transfer window, we sold Tripps as most people wanted, now we replaced Poch with manager that has won everything, repeatedly, with every club he's been into, paid him shitloads of money (twice much as Klopp earns, if I remember good?) and still people moan, shout Levy out, want the club to do what? Pay other PL teams to give up every match? I still remember from my lurking times, how some of you predicted that now we are gonna smash Liverpoo and City. Only 5-0, because of no new right back, but with him it'd be 10-0 for sure. I guess you deserve to be sacked as well? In the last decade or so, there is no club in whole Europe that made such big progress as we did. Stadium, reputation, constant top of the table, despite terrible luck in CL group draws and being thrown into hardest ones we still were predicted to go to knockout stages. CL final, etc etc etc etc, I can go on like this for few hours. And STILL, somehow there is so much negativity all around. Every player has to be instantly sold after one bad game. Including Kane. Mou already deserves being sacked. So does Levy. What about supporting the club, instead of being... this?

Great post.

 

[Murphy]

Another hard game to watch. I'm not seeing anything different in performances or when Mourinho says he has spent the last year adapting his methods.

He’s got to change the entire mentality of a team that’s been going backwards for a year. He’s been in the job like 8 weeks lol

Time will of course tell, but fuck me

 

[Murphy]

To win some fucking trophies, 3 in a decade is reasonable, 1 in nearly 2 decades is shit.

I suspect you are supporting the wrong club. We are trying to build success the right way.

That said we have been desperately close. Multiple finals over the last 20 years and many semi finals. We fail at the final hurdles; that’s a lack of luck and mental fragility.

 

[mouse]

So... prepared for the hate. But another game and Eriksen comes on to save our midfield (and Dier wasn't even on the pitch this time).

Not just his vision but his positive passing and his work rate. Contract politics aside, we are being overrun in the middle game after game. Perhaps starting him we wouldnt see the same energy or impact, but he has been very influencial when subbed on.

 

[MVP]

I suspect you are supporting the wrong club. We are trying to build success the right way.

That said we have been desperately close. Multiple finals over the last 20 years and many semi finals. We fail at the final hurdles; that’s a lack of luck and mental fragility.

I'm supporting the wrong club because I want to win more that 1 trophy in 19 years? You're telling me we can't build success and win more than one trophy?

 

[Arch]

This we should be smashing teams like Brighton at home really is a strange mentality to have , they smashed us off the park at their place a two months ago so why on earth would we be expected to win easy .

Only one team have really handed Brighton a beating this season , for all the doom and gloom surrounding the performance i think we did a good job .

Brighton aren't one of those teams you just have to turn up and win teams anymore , they play proper football even though their league position looks to show otherwise , so a excellent battling 3 points imo , not a we should of won by 5 game at all to start with .

 

[ChrissyWaddleShares]

I'm supporting the wrong club because I want to win more that 1 trophy in 19 years? You're telling me we can't build success and win more than one trophy?

Why’ve you picked 19 years, instead of ‘11years since the last trophy’? Or, even, ‘6 months since being in the final of the biggest club tournament in world football’? I think- but correct me if I’m wrong- that there might be an agenda?

 

[Distaste for scouse]

I genuinely can't believe Mourinho is getting this much stick when he's taken us from what 12th-14th or wherever the fuck we were languishing to within 3 points of the top 4. In a handful of games.

I've been willing to sack off this season for weeks but not because of Mourinho because VAR is killing the game and Liverpool have had it sewn up for months now.

But I just think people have an agenda here.

I don't buy the "negative football" crap. And it is crap. We've scored lots of goals and played some entertaining matches since he's come here, and anyone who thinks Poch's build from the back and pass the ball endlessly sideways football of the last 12 months was any better needs their heads testing.

It's clear we need new fullbacks and a new DM. Get those and we are a different proposition. Put Trent Arnold, Robertson and Kante in our team we are suddenly challenging for the title. And I'm sure with his experience Mourinho is well aware of what we need.

Get him behind FFS!
COYS!

 

[MVP]

Why’ve you picked 19 years, instead of ‘11years since the last trophy’? Or, even, ‘6 months since being in the final of the biggest club tournament in world football’? I think- but correct me if I’m wrong- that there might be an agenda?

Both are true and both are unacceptable?

We didn't win it though, I respect the achievement more than most but we didn't win.

 

[Murphy]

I'm supporting the wrong club because I want to win more that 1 trophy in 19 years? You're telling me we can't build success and win more than one trophy?

If trophies are the benchmark of "success", then yes. Despite what the Dippers think, NO club has a right to win trophies. They must be competed for. You stated that we should be winning two or three trophies a decade, then pick an amount of years that conveniently misses out a SECOND trophy in 20 years. Go back a little further and we won another; in 29 years we've won 3 cups. Is that enough for a club of our size or stature? I'm not the one to answer that, but when you want a minimum of two per decade, there's one per decade. By your own metric, that's not too far away.

There's other things to consider. Have you not seen the big fucking beautiful building in the middle of Tottenham? That's progress. The swanky training ground? The fact that since 2013 we have NOT sold any of our best players* that we didn't need to. The fact that we now have a world class manager that has won EVERYTHING. Are these not all signs of progress? How about continuing to break our transfer record, all at a time when we are told we don't spend?

We are building things the right way. In an era where corrupt Russian Oligarches and corrupt Countries are hiding money in sport exist. That's what we are competing against. And yet in the same era, we've LOST four cup finals, and fallen short multiple times in semi finals. There's your missing trophy numbers. Small margins.

The bottom line is we could have won more. It comes down to the players. They are weak, mentally. We now have a coach that isn't. Let's see what happens.

*Kyle Walker aside. But obviously he was sold with the manager's blessing.

 

[MVP]

If trophies are the benchmark of "success", then yes. Despite what the Dippers think, NO club has a right to win trophies. They must be competed for. You stated that we should be winning two or three trophies a decade, then pick an amount of years that conveniently misses out a SECOND trophy in 20 years. Go back a little further and we won another; in 29 years we've won 3 cups. Is that enough for a club of our size or stature? I'm not the one to answer that, but when you want a minimum of two per decade, there's one per decade. By your own metric, that's not too far away.

There's other things to consider. Have you not seen the big fucking beautiful building in the middle of Tottenham? That's progress. The swanky training ground? The fact that since 2013 we have NOT sold any of our best players* that we didn't need to. The fact that we now have a world class manager that has won EVERYTHING. Are these not all signs of progress? How about continuing to break our transfer record, all at a time when we are told we don't spend?

We are building things the right way. In an era where corrupt Russian Oligarches and corrupt Countries are hiding money in sport exist. That's what we are competing against. And yet in the same era, we've LOST four cup finals, and fallen short multiple times in semi finals. There's your missing trophy numbers. Small margins.

The bottom line is we could have won more. It comes down to the players. They are weak, mentally. We now have a coach that isn't. Let's see what happens.

*Kyle Walker aside. But obviously he was sold with the manager's blessing.

So trophies aren't a benchmark of success but a big ground and a training ground is? I don't think Newcastle and sunderland got the memo on that one.

This board wasn't in charge in 1999 when we won the league cup. We've won no trophy this decade, you think the likes of Kane is content with winning nothing? We are doing things in a particular way because that is what we are forced to do with the resources we have it's got nothing to do with some kind of moral crusade. Most fans don't really care too much about where the money comes from.

You have a point about the players being mentally weak but I blame the management and the board also.

 

[Airfixx]

So trophies aren't a benchmark of success but a big ground and a training ground is? I don't think Newcastle and sunderland got the memo on that one.

This board wasn't in charge in 1999 when we won the league cup. We've won no trophy this decade, you think the likes of Kane is content with winning nothing? We are doing things in a particular way because that is what we are forced to do with the resources we have it's got nothing to do with some kind of moral crusade. Most fans don't really care too much about where the money comes from.

You have a point about the players being mentally weak but I blame the management and the board also.

2 financially doped clubs have been hoovering up a large chunk of domestic trophies for the last 15 years.... Us, Liverpool, Scum ... Even Man Utds trophy-rate has dropped as a result. (Not that we've been prolific since the early 80s anyway!)

Yet in the face of such adversity we're bigger and have regularly achieved higher league finishes, multiple CL qualifications and a bunch of finals.

....And yes, managed to build a bling new stadium with the proceeds t'boot.

We don't live in a black and white world... No, trophies aren't the only metric.

 

[Atomic knob]

Fuck me; that finish from Dele!

I also loved the little side foot from Aurier to get it to Dele.

 

[MVP]

2 financially doped clubs have been hoovering up a large chunk of domestic trophies for the last 15 years.... Us, Liverpool, Scum ... Even Man Utds trophy-rate has dropped as a result.

Yet in the face of such adversity we're bigger and have regularly achieved higher league finishes, multiple CL qualifications and a bunch of finals.

....And yes, managed to build a bling new stadium with the proceeds t'boot.

We don't live in a black and white world... No trophies aren't the only metric.

If we get fifth place people will consider that a success then right? That's punching above our weight and well worth the 15 million a year we are paying Jose.