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So the Deloitte data is falsified or all 20 clubs are part of a massive fraud conspiracy - which one is it?
No you're an idiot who can't interpret financial information .... go try again, or better yet stick to the threads for numbnuts ... they're more your speed

FYI Deloitte only did one ranking in the 90's they started the Football Money League in 2002 ... but of course you knew that you were just having a laugh .... weren't you?
 
More lies

We had five Top 4 finishes in the 80s - including finishing 3rd three times -

Signing Ossie and Ricky from a World Cup winning side was the equivalent of signing Mbappe and Greizmann today. We were the top London team and certainly ahead of Chavs

Making us sound like we were the equivalent of Leicester those years is shameful and laughable

Hahahahahahahaha - what a Muppet

We had five Top 4 finishes in the 80s - including finishing 3rd three times

So that made us a top side in the 80's even though we averaged a mediocre mid-table 8th over the decade, but now we're rubbish even though in the last ten years we've managed 6 top four finishes and averaged 4th - once again your logic is impeccable - 🤫

Signing Ossie and Ricky from a World Cup winning side was the equivalent of signing Mbappe and Greizmann today

Ossie and Ricky combined were 750,000 - that represented about 10% of our annual income.

Mbappe and Greizmann today would be 350,000,000 - that would represent almost 80% of our annual income.

From a financial comparison these transfers would be nothing like the equivalent deal - and this is the finance thread after all - 😣

Making us sound like we were the equivalent of Leicester those years is shameful and laughable

More Ipswich, Forest, Leeds in those days ... but I guess you weren't around or the memory has failed - 🤫
 
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We had five Top 4 finishes in the 80s - including finishing 3rd three times

So that made us a top side in the 80's

You said Top 4 side - see blow. The answer is yes it did - now stop lying and changing the goal-posts

we've haven't been a top four side since the late 50's early 60's ...


R.E. Ossie and Ricky - I was referring to player quality equivalent - prices have increased exponentially but the point of quality stands
 
R.E. Ossie and Ricky - I was referring to player quality equivalent - prices have increased exponentially but the point of quality stands
So averaging 8th in the 1980's which we factually did, that is your measure of a Top 4 side - need I even point out how stupid that makes you look?

So you were on the finance thread talking opinionated bollocks about mythical transfers - who cares what you think when the actual data is available?

Your unfounded opinions on a finance thread where the true facts are readily available if you just look for them? ... thanks but no thanks.

as I said before maybe best stay out of threads where you're so clearly out of your depth.
 
Hahahahahahahaha - what a Muppet

We had five Top 4 finishes in the 80s - including finishing 3rd three times

So that made us a top side in the 80's even though we averaged a mediocre mid-table 8th over the decade, but now we're rubbish even though in the last ten years we've managed 6 top four finishes and averaged 4th - once again your logic is impeccable - 🤫

Signing Ossie and Ricky from a World Cup winning side was the equivalent of signing Mbappe and Greizmann today

Ossie and Ricky combined were 750,000 - that represented about 10% of our annual income.

Mbappe and Greizmann today would be 350,000,000 - that would represent almost 80% of our annual income.

From a financial comparison these transfers would be nothing like the equivalent deal - and this is the finance thread after all - 😣

Making us sound like we were the equivalent of Leicester those years is shameful and laughable

More Ipswich, Forest, Leeds in those days ... but I guess you weren't around or the memory has failed - 🤫

Haters gonna hate. Dont waste your breath
 
So averaging 8th in the 1980's which we factually did, that is your measure of a Top 4 side - need I even point out how stupid that makes you look?

So you were on the finance thread talking opinionated bollocks about mythical transfers - who cares what you think when the actual data is available?

Your unfounded opinions on a finance thread where the true facts are readily available if you just look for them? ... thanks but no thanks.

as I said before maybe best stay out of threads where you're so clearly out of your depth.
We were a Top 4 side in the 80s contrary to your lies - fact. We were also financially much better off in the 90s than your lies suggest - another fact. You've never once had any real ITK about the club - another fact
 




The findings take into account a club's playing assets (A), tangible assets (B), cash in the bank (C), potential owner investment (D) and net debt (E) to give an overall Football Finance Index (FFI) score.
 
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The findings take into account a club's playing assets (A), tangible assets (B), cash in the bank (C), potential owner investment (D) and net debt (E) to give an overall Football Finance Index (FFI) score.


Hmm, Barcelona in 14th position, several MLS clubs on the list.....

Spurs playing squad value 984m . Quick close transfer thread, we don't need any more players (and certainly not a squad overhaul) according to these guys...…....

Think I'll ignore any advice they want to give
 
We were a Top 4 side in the 80s contrary to your lies - fact. We were also financially much better off in the 90s than your lies suggest - another fact. You've never once had any real ITK about the club - another fact
You do know that you saying "FACT" doesn't make it a real fact

In the 1980's we averaged 7/8th place ... please explain how that makes us top four when six sides were consistently better than us ... and FYI just saying fact ten times, well sorry to break this to you that doesn't actually work ...

1980's Spurs - 14,10,4,4,8,3,10,3,13,6 - average 7.5 ...... how is that a top 4 fact?

We were so well off in the 90's that Sugar sold the club in 2002 saying his ten years was "a complete waste of time" pointing out that the club was still struggling to make money and needed huge investment that he wasn't willing to make ... but hey he was only the Chairman what does he know compared to your imaginary 'fact' ..... you are funny in a very sad way.
 
You do know that you saying "FACT" doesn't make it a real fact

In the 1980's we averaged 7/8th place ... please explain how that makes us top four when six sides were consistently better than us ... and FYI just saying fact ten times, well sorry to break this to you that doesn't actually work ...

1980's Spurs - 14,10,4,4,8,3,10,3,13,6 - average 7.5 ...... how is that a top 4 fact?

We were so well off in the 90's that Sugar sold the club in 2002 saying his ten years was "a complete waste of time" pointing out that the club was still struggling to make money and needed huge investment that he wasn't willing to make ... but hey he was only the Chairman what does he know compared to your imaginary 'fact' ..... you are funny in a very sad way.

How anyone can say that we haven't significantly grown as a club during the ENIC years I have no clue.

The PL table during ENICs first season in charge:

Man U
Woolwich
Liverpool
Leeds
Ipswich
Chelsea
Sunderland
Aston Villa
Charlton
Southampton
Newcastle
Tottenham Hotspur
Leicester
Middlesborough
West Ham
Everton
Derby County
Man City
Coventry
Bradford City

If people can't see how many teams have stumbled compared to how few have prospered during that time then there's no speaking rationally with them.

Top training facilties during that time, a top stadium, a team that's gone from Zidane saying "who are Tottenham" to wiping the floor with them in the Champions League and extremely healthy on a financial level. Yes we strive for trophies but literally everything at the club is set up long term for that and all organically done. Ours wasn the a quick fix, ours took plenty of time. Just ask the fans of West Ham who have had their owners in place for 10 years or those that tried and failed with Aston Villa, or the Newcastle fans if they'd swap the last 10-20 years worth of build with what we've been doing. We are in a very good place, have been for a while now all it requires are the finishing touches which I'm sure Levy and co won't be losing sight of anytime soon.
 
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Tottenham are expected to announce within weeks their annual revenues have rocketed beyond the £400million mark, Football Insider understands.

The Champions League runners-up from last season are due to post their latest set of financial results by early April.

A Spurs source has told Football Insider that figures are set to be released that show turnover soared to a club-record high of beyond £400m for the latest accounting period.

Tottenham’s last annual report for the 2017-18 season showed their revenue rose from £309.7m to £380.7m.

It further swelled in 2018-19 to a new high as they reached the Champions League final for the first time in their history.

The Londoners were defeated by runaway Premier League leaders Liverpool but raked in £85m from the run that took them to Madrid.

However, profits are not expected to reach last year’s level, when Tottenham posted a post-tax profit of £112.9m, the highest ever registered in the Premier League as they beat the mark Liverpool had set weeks earlier.

An increased wage bill – it was worth £147.6m in 2017-18 – has also had an impact on profits, with Harry Kane, Dele Alli and Hugo Lloris among those signing lucrative new deals in the accounting period.

Nevertheless, Tottenham are set to announce increases in the three principal revenue streams – broadcasting, matchday and commercial income.

The club moved into their new stadium last April and this immediately boosted the club’s bottom line.
 
You'd think with it being ready made for NFL that the natural progression for American Football in the capital would be to shift all games to N17.

Some people have beef with how Levy does things, that's up to them for whatever reasons they have but the planning around this and if it comes off to its biggest potential (a permanent NFL franchise) will have been a financial master stroke.
Depending of course on where the NFL monies go.

To ENIC

To THFC

Or to the NFL team.
 

However, profits are not expected to reach last year’s level, when Tottenham posted a post-tax profit of £112.9m, the highest ever registered in the Premier League as they beat the mark Liverpool had set weeks earlier.

An increased wage bill – it was worth £147.6m in 2017-18 – has also had an impact on profits, with Harry Kane, Dele Alli and Hugo Lloris among those signing lucrative new deals in the accounting period.

Nevertheless, Tottenham are set to announce increases in the three principal revenue streams – broadcasting, matchday and commercial income.

The club moved into their new stadium last April and this immediately boosted the club’s bottom line.

I hope some on here know the difference between REVENUE and PROFIT.

Somehow, I very much doubt it.
 

Tottenham are expected to announce within weeks their annual revenues have rocketed beyond the £400million mark, Football Insider understands.

The Champions League runners-up from last season are due to post their latest set of financial results by early April.

A Spurs source has told Football Insider that figures are set to be released that show turnover soared to a club-record high of beyond £400m for the latest accounting period.

Tottenham’s last annual report for the 2017-18 season showed their revenue rose from £309.7m to £380.7m.

It further swelled in 2018-19 to a new high as they reached the Champions League final for the first time in their history.

The Londoners were defeated by runaway Premier League leaders Liverpool but raked in £85m from the run that took them to Madrid.

However, profits are not expected to reach last year’s level, when Tottenham posted a post-tax profit of £112.9m, the highest ever registered in the Premier League as they beat the mark Liverpool had set weeks earlier.

An increased wage bill – it was worth £147.6m in 2017-18 – has also had an impact on profits, with Harry Kane, Dele Alli and Hugo Lloris among those signing lucrative new deals in the accounting period.

Nevertheless, Tottenham are set to announce increases in the three principal revenue streams – broadcasting, matchday and commercial income.

The club moved into their new stadium last April and this immediately boosted the club’s bottom line.

Certainly not surprised that revenues (to be announced end March/start April if club follows previous years dates) will be higher than last years, this being a period where matches were largely played at Wembley with about 5 at the new stadium.

I'd be surprised if profits weren't higher too - despite wage rises, although there may be one off hits (eg continuing to pay for Wembley despite not using it, start up costs such a staff training at the new stadium etc) which have hit profits last year. However underlying profits are probably higher.
 
Certainly not surprised that revenues (to be announced end March/start April if club follows previous years dates) will be higher than last years, this being a period where matches were largely played at Wembley with about 5 at the new stadium.

I'd be surprised if profits weren't higher too - despite wage rises, although there may be one off hits (eg continuing to pay for Wembley despite not using it, start up costs such a staff training at the new stadium etc) which have hit profits last year. However underlying profits are probably higher.


Not a great source but this bloke reckons it could push towards £459.3m. It'll be interesting to see what figures actually come out:

https://www.cityam.com/how-tottenha...wich-to-become-londons-richest-football-club/

Edit: change Woolwich to you know what in the URL
 
You'd think with it being ready made for NFL that the natural progression for American Football in the capital would be to shift all games to N17.

Some people have beef with how Levy does things, that's up to them for whatever reasons they have but the planning around this and if it comes off to its biggest potential (a permanent NFL franchise) will have been a financial master stroke.
I could see the NFL moving all London games to Tottenham at some point in the future, but I would be very surprised if it happened this season. I expect the Wembley option to be picked up but after 2025 it is likely that all NFL games will be hosted at NWHL.

NFL players and coaches greatly prefer NWHL over Wembley as it is purpose built to host NFL games.
 
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