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The race for top four.

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Totti, 9 Mar 2019.

  1. The Fish

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  2. Super Jan Fan

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    I hope we treat this like a race for the top three because whoever finishes fourth may not qualify this year.
    As the table stands, imagine is City won the CL and Woolwich the Europa. Utd would then miss out on CL football next year. I hope this happens to one of rivals, I just don't want it to be us it happens to again.
     
  3. Totti

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    The only way 4th place doesn't get CL is if the winners of the EL and CL finish OUTSIDE the top 4.

    So City winning the CL means fuck all.
     
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  4. Park Lane Mark Twain

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    So the safest thing is Man U getting a tough one tomorrow, even though I'd fancy our chances against them in the QF or SF
     
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    Uurrrrgh.... still another WEEK dwelling on LAST weeks' game!!!
    :dier::eriksenserious::pochfacepalm:
     
  6. BF3

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    #286 BF3, 15 Mar 2019
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    I think we can now put to bed the chances of any team finishing outside the top 4 winning the CL. I think Chelsea finish outside the top 4 but win the EL. Looking at schedules, we should be able to get 16 points from the last 8 games, and that should put is in the top 4.
     
  7. Park Lane Mark Twain

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    Mate I've watched a poor Chelsea team consisting of Ryan Bertrand etc overcome Barcelona and Bayern Munich to kick us in the teeth. I'm not ruling Man U out of doing similar and neither should the club, in fact the team need to expect this as a genuine scenario, they need to believe that 4th place won't be good enough to qualify for next season
     
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    So

    Final PL table
    City
    Liverpool
    Utd
    Spurs

    Chelsea v Woolwich EL final so one of them will get a CL spot

    Do we lose our CL place?
     
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  10. Park Lane Mark Twain

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    We only lose our place if it looks like this or something similar etc:

    Man City
    Liverpool
    Woolwich
    Tottenham
    Man U
    Chelsea

    Man U win the Champions League, Chelsea win the Europa League. We basically need both the 5th & 6th place teams not to win the cups in Europe. One or the other is fine but not both. It's fine for the team that is in the Europa (Woolwich or Chelsea) to win it and finish in the top 4 if Man U wins the Champions League, we just can't finish 4th and have 5th & 6th in the League win the European competitions
     
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    I think the club wants to solidify their spot in 3rd for a myriad of reasons, so I don't think that is a concern.

    I believe the chances of the CL winner to be an English club outside the top 4 is very unlikely as only us and United could do it. 40:1 odds by some rough math based on a few different things floating around out there.
     
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    #292 Park Lane Mark Twain, 15 Mar 2019
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    Man U are 5 games away from doing what Chelsea did that year to the team that finishes 4th potentially. Get past Barcelona and they will get to play either Porto or Liverpool, very winnable for Man U both of those are and then it's final time.

    Personally I want to see them get hammered in that first leg vs Barcelona almost as much as I want to see us do City. One dodgy decision or sending off in that Man U vs Barcelona game throws those odds drastically down and we all know anything can happen in a game of football
     
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    From the last month, it would seem impossible for us to get Top 5. That's how bad it's been. Expected, or rather our shit attitude has caught up with us, but still infuriating.

    We can all be the most supportive fans, but can Poch inspire this group? Can they show it on the pitch? Does Poch have the tactical nous to respond to teams like Burnley and Southampton? We'll see.
     
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    I missed this part.... Got any links?

    I'm guessing your first para isnt part of this claim?
     
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    Title
    3rd
    Top 4
    Porto in the quarters


    Seasons a write off

    :memeokay:
     
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    I'm not shitting myself about the top 4 unless we drop points at home. We haven't lost at home since May 8th, 2016. Haven't dropped points at home since October 29th, 2016. When that happens I'll join the melt brigade.
     
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    I actually ‘watched Mackay, White, Jones, Blanchflower........

    Shall I go on???
     
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    Elbow Room by 2pm
     
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    Thanks, I'd forgotten that. I guess us or Utd could end up outside the top four but I doubt either of us will win the CL in all honesty.
     
  20. Park Lane Mark Twain

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    Two games for us to keep a keen eye on this weekend even though we ain't playing.

    Really we want Man U to draw with Wolves (replays at this stage right or is it extra time?) And we want Everton to make the most of their home advantage against the chavs

    Two games that kind of impact Spurs in a way. One of the best things about being a team competing is how many more other games you are forced to take an interest in. The big one by far is the toffees doing us a favour though, would be like 3 points for us in all honesty
     
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