Summer 2019 transfer thread

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Bill Madrid

Bill Madrid

Bill Madrid
eanN17 said:
Quite typical in the German sports press to add the City name to a club: Woolwich London, Juventus Turin, Rosenborg Trondheim, you get the drift.
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I didn't fight in two world wars so that Fritz could go around incorrectly naming football teams

(pauses to consider Glasgow Rangers, Athletic Bilbao, Sporting Lisbon...)

I surrender!

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Claud601

Claud601

Claud601
ILSpur said:
My guess is that he actively doesn't want to be here any longer, and we just need to offload before issues arise. He's worth more than that, but the priority is probably to keep him away from the squad and get some value for him, even if lower than expected, instead of having him hanging around so we can reinvest.
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That’s the “painful “ part
 
Spursidol

Spursidol

Spursidol
Mampi said:
Well we start the season with Villa home, City away, Toon home - a week gap between each.
For me, first game we should be winning comfortably, getting players match fit if not already, and preparing for a 6 pointer against City.

Villa: Who will expect a drubbing - big day out, men behind the ball trying to be hard to break down;
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Lloris
Aurier - Alderweireld - Vertonghen - Davies
Winks - N'Dombele - Lo Celso
Moura - Kane - Eriksen


City: Now this is the big one. They will expect to spank us and limit our chances. When we do attack, a bit of magic will be needed so would go with Dele, but more importantly we need to hound and get at them trying to deny space - so a rare Lamela call up for me here, and a proper defender up against Sterling or whoever else goes against our left back. We went with Trippier and Rose in the champions league games last season, but doesn't look like either will be here. Son still suspended.
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Lloris
Aurier - Alderweireld - Sanchez - Vertonghen
Sissoko - N'Dombele
Lamela - Dele - Eriksen
Kane


Toon: Expect that shit show to go down this season, and think we should be going for the jugular on the back of a harsh defeat away to City, which is quite likely. High up wing backs, expect to have the ball more than we need to win it back, but players who can pass through what they will inevitably set up as.
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Lloris
Kwp - Alderweireld - Sanchez - Vertonghen - Sessegnon
Winks - Lo Celso
Moura - Kane - Son


It goes on form, injuries, performances and everything - but really we should be winning 2 of those games with our 2nd 11. It's the city game we need to look at as the bench mark for our starting 11 being good enough and transfers needed.
The side from last season miraculously managed to score 3 against them away, and the defence held them off at home. But with that logic, City could say 'we should be capable of scoring away to Spurs' when obviously their attack is fucking incredible. They were the better side and lost over 2 legs anyway.

I want us to, and believe we can win the league this season. But that massively comes down to form, momentum, injuries, luck, mental approach to name a few things.
Winning or losing the City game I believe will have quite an impact on momentum and mentality in particular, with Gooners away after the toon game.

Lo Celso and Sessegnon I didn't include in the potential City squad. Do they offer the level of solidity needed for such a task? I'm not convinced. I think that's a game to use our strength and height - dipping into the squad 'depth' for an 11 suitable for the task at hand. Didn't Pep call us the most physical team he has ever played against or something?

Horses for Courses. For me the want of players like Sessegnon or Lo Celso are more about breaking down shit teams we often fail to do with a squad that ought to be more than capable of doing so already.
But my idea is to have a squad that is capable of being the better team in 38 games, or getting as close to that as possible (like City). A bit of form and momentum with last years squad would turn some of those defeats into wins against inferior opposition. But if we sign Lo Celso and Sessegnon, are we really on par with City?
I would like us to bring those players in, but for me it's about having different options for different situations.

With our squad as it is (even if we include Lo Celso and Sessegnon), I would say we lack;
- A solid defending 'backs to the wall' right back
- A quick to release the ball accurately attacking mid (a bit like Eriksen but maybe left footed)
- A fast, potentially lethal back up striker (Gabriel Jesus type)
- And a consistently good corner / set piece taker - which you would hope could be included in the attacking mid player mentioned above.

Sorry to go on a bit. Wasn't necessarily aimed at who I quoted.
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I stopped reading when you didn't know that Aurier will almost certainly not be fit for the first couple of games of PL season - he's just come back from Afcon and after ,3 weeks off will start preseason just before PL season starts

Foyth and Son are suspended for the first ,2 games as well.
 
Bill Madrid

Bill Madrid

Bill Madrid
I think making 1300 before the close of play today should be considered a good week's work. Get posting your tittle tattle and pointless personal sniping and lets make it happen
 
bus-conductor

bus-conductor

bus-conductor
Airfixx said:
(I'm interpreting evidence.... Stats if you will... Funny you'd be against that... Again, twice in 24 hours you turn your nose up at me doing so.... Complexity of character or just hypocricy? Hmmmm....)

We were led to believe Serge was unfit for the CL final... So all the melting goes, he and the 2 Harrys should not have been on the pitch.

Q. Why was Serge played in the bulk of CL games instead of say Brighton, Newcastle et al? :kanehand:
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Airfixx said:
(I'm interpreting evidence.... Stats if you will... Funny you'd be against that... Again, twice in 24 hours you turn your nose up at me doing so.... Complexity of character or just hypocricy? Hmmmm....)

We were led to believe Serge was unfit for the CL final... So all the melting goes, he and the 2 Harrys should not have been on the pitch.

Q. Why was Serge played in the bulk of CL games instead of say Brighton, Newcastle et al? :kanehand:
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I have absolutely no problem with "stats" (when contextualised etc) and welcome/encourage the use of any factual evidence used to support an opinion, I wasn't criticising you for using stats, I was highlighting your double standard of lambasting me for using them. whilst in the same thread conversation using them yourself.

We were led to believe Aurier was well and truly fit for the final - and he was on the bench - he didn't make it on to the pitch?

Trippier played 627 minutes in the CL last season including both QF's, both Semis and the final (with Aurier available), Aurier played 425.

Your big game theory is pretty weak. last Season in the PL (Poch's priority) Trippier started the vast majority of big games (even when Aurier was available):

Trippier League
ManU (a) Aurier on bench
Liverpool (h) Aurier on bench
ManC (h) Aurier on bench
ManU (h)
Chelsea (a) Aurier on bench
Woolwich (h) Aurier on bench
Liverpool (a)

The only two "big" games Aurier stared were when Trippier was injured (I think):

Aurier League
Woolwich (a) Trippier injured
Chelsea (h) Trippier injured


In the CC semi final they started one each.


As for your earlier claim about Trippier being targeted, I posted a heat map which covered the whole of 17/18 season after this was claimed at the start of this season, it's in the Trippier thread, and shows that we conceded more chances down our left than right through that whole season. None of us have a clue if any opposing managers targeted Trippier, or of they did if they targeted Trippier because he's "Trippier" of if they do it because tactically, the way we play will always expose pushed up FB's, particularly the more attacking one, but there's no real evidence that suggests defensively over a long period of time we've been "weaker" down our right - unless someone posts the same for last season and it is reversed - but we have heard people like Pogba interviewed and stating they worked min attacking behind both our fb's.
 

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Mampi

Mampi

Mampi
Spursidol said:
I stopped reading when you didn't know that Aurier will almost certainly not be fit for the first couple of games of PL season - he's just come back from Afcon and after ,3 weeks off will start preseason just before PL season starts

Foyth and Son are suspended for the first ,2 games as well.
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Well I had the decency to quote and respond having read the entirety of your post.

Last I saw, Aurier had a 'hurty wrist' and would expect him to make the squad for the first game.
Didn't include Foyth anywhere and specifically referenced Sons suspension.

Why bother even replying to be honest? Jesus - you might have to be my first 'block' on this forum.
Trying to make out you're some kind of oracle regarding Aurier's fitness, and anyone else less than yourself in that regard is simply not worth reading material from.

BUT it's important to let people you know you stopped reading, with your high and mighty justification for doing so.

Plenty of posts I can't be bothered to read - but I'm not going to quote them and reply with something pathetically pedantic.

Sort it out if you don't mind. I feel I can say what I like about you this far down the post because you probably won't be reading beyond how little I know about Serge being guaranteed to miss the first couple of games. Twat. You even said 'almost certainly' - so that's not even a certainty?? Christ. £100 says Serge makes the opening day squad, passed as fit to play?
 

snowkarl

snowkarl
Mampi said:
Well I had the decency to quote and respond having read the entirety of your post.

Last I saw, Aurier had a 'hurty wrist' and would expect him to make the squad for the first game.
Didn't include Foyth anywhere and specifically referenced Sons suspension.

Why bother even replying to be honest? Jesus - you might have to be my first 'block' on this forum.
Trying to make out you're some kind of oracle regarding Aurier's fitness, and anyone else less than yourself in that regard is simply not worth reading material from.

BUT it's important to let people you know you stopped reading, with your high and mighty justification for doing so.

Plenty of posts I can't be bothered to read - but I'm not going to quote them and reply with something pathetically pedantic.

Sort it out if you don't mind. I feel I can say what I like about you this far down the post because you probably won't be reading beyond how little I know about Serge being guaranteed to miss the first couple of games. Twat. You even said 'almost certainly' - so that's not even a certainty?? Christ. £100 says Serge makes the opening day squad, passed as fit to play?
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Aurier just started his vacation - he'll barely be back in London when the season's started and will be nowhere near match fit. That's what your missing.
 
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Thin Lilywhite Duke
Macch said:
You know the deal is really close when you start hearing rumors like this..

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BF3 said:
This smells like that Ndombele to United shit.
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If nothing else, the past couple of years have given us the rough template for these protracted transfer sagas.

- initial vague reports
- more reputable outlets start reporting it (if real)
- pause
- speculation ramps up with rough figure for fee
- terms allegedly agreed with player
- 'two clubs valuations are far apart'
- *shock link with rival club completely out of the blue*
- selling club signs player who is suspiciously of the same position
- reliable media reports that it's done
- Spurs social media keep us waiting at least 24 hours longer than we can handle
 
Mampi

Mampi

Mampi
snowkarl said:
Aurier just started his vacation - he'll barely be back in London when the season's started and will be nowhere near match fit. That's what your missing.
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My point was that his post was pathetic and pedantic.
He has been recovering for nearly a month already since he hobbled off against Morocco, and expect him to be undergoing rehab and fitness work pretty much on schedule.
To be honest that doesn't even matter anyway - the response was .... well jesus if you don't see it yourself I cant really help you.

I'M NOT READING BEYOND THIS POINT BECAUSE SERGE MAY OR MORE LIKELY MAY NOT BE FIT FOR THE OPENING GAME. EVERYTHING ELSE IS REDUNDANT. POINTS ABOUT SIGNINGS ARE NO LONGER RELEVANT COS CUNT DUN NO SERGE INJURED AND MISSING FIRST GAME LOL I NO ALL DOUGH.

Or something to that effect. On your bike with your vacations.
 

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