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Quite possibly, as the Prime Minister said it was okay?
Surely as the leader of the country he has the overriding say.
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More likely it's been referred to them by the police who've autonomously decided to arrest people for it, they've had a look and decided it's a load of bollocks with zero legal basis.
Just been reading the BBC's new article on this and I note the CPS have made this statement.....
This is particularly interesting and they aren't required to offer such a statement. Under the circumstances I would say that such a statement has really thrown this into the air. While, if you read between the lines, they are clearly saying in this paragraph that future prosecutions may be possible, at the same time they've effectively offered up a rod for their own back by laying the groundwork for an argument that chanting Yid Army doesn't amount to a racial attack. In future all people will have to do would be to quote this paragraph if they got any shit from police for chanting Yid Army and a CPS case would be undermined from the start - well, unless the law itself were changed.
This is particularly interesting and they aren't required to offer such a statement. Under the circumstances I would say that such a statement has really thrown this into the air. While, if you read between the lines, they are clearly saying in this paragraph that future prosecutions may be possible, at the same time they've effectively offered up a rod for their own back by laying the groundwork for an argument that chanting Yid Army doesn't amount to a racial attack. In future all people will have to do would be to quote this paragraph if they got any shit from police for chanting Yid Army and a CPS case would be undermined from the start - well, unless the law itself were changed.
I would take Baddiel by the balls and drag him into court and do him for deformation of character, mental anguish, low esteem & anything the CPS can throw at him. Then we can pay for it. Sounds familiar? Better still in one of my earlier threads take him outside and do him with a baseball bat....
What I would deem more likely is that they want to make clear the word "Yid" is NOT acceptable in all contexts - i.e. if Chelsea start chanting "Yids, go to Hell" or something tomorrow they could still be prosecuted. But in this context, it is fine.
I wouldn't go that far. They statement specifies "in these three cases". It doesn't give a free licence for Spurs fans to use it however they want. I would be inclined to agree that it does leave the door open to go after the likes of Chelsea fans, but then, at the same time, that raises the question of why there has been a failure to do so.
They are good for sniffing wine.!!Racist. Big noses are not deformities.
Brilliant post. Summed up exactly how I feel about all this stupidness.
Friends of mine today shouted 'Yid army' going into the ground and got told by the o.b. to come to one side once they'd got in/past the first line of stewards.
o.b. saying it could be classed as an offence etc. if someone's offended he could be in trouble etc. talking shit basically so my mate was saying well who's offended? Are you arresting me or not?
Cut a long story short the copper was saying I'm not arresting you I'm just warning you if someone's offended by it you could get in trouble etc.
o.b. saying it could be classed as an offence etc. if someone's offended he could be in trouble etc. talking shit basically so my mate was saying well who's offended? Are you arresting me or not?
Cut a long story short the copper was saying I'm not arresting you I'm just warning you if someone's offended by it you could get in trouble etc.
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suggest there might be a chance they could just be warning people so they can arrest them later indiscriminately (He did not endorse this idea just entertained it). As I will constantly say they need to warn you by law. Believe it or not this is a minor offence so you need to be warned over your behavior.I went in with the escort so the old bill were just keen to get us in so none of this. I was saying in the pub actually different context would be the street and perhaps a different stadium. We are not totally off the beady eye of the police. If people know the law you can avoid trouble.
I never said that at all. I think you are misreading me somewhat. What I said was that the law hasn't changed and this was not a bar to future prosecutions. I never suggested there would be no warnings, simply that the framework for action was still firmly in place.
I also said, after having read the CPS statement and gotten further insight into their decision, that future prosecutions might be hindered by the contents of said statement.
Really happy that these 3 haven't got any criminal convictions over this.
Does anyone happen to know where these 3 were arrested? Was it inside the ground or outside? From reading the CPS' statement, they placed great emphasis on the context of the alleged offence, and that it would be likely to result in an unsuccessful prosecution. I think if they were arrested inside the ground, that might be the context that swung their opinion. They might still be willing to pursue a case against Spurs supporters using it in public places away from the ground, e.g. at pubs, on the High St, on trains, etc. I think that might be the next test case.
Does anyone happen to know where these 3 were arrested? Was it inside the ground or outside? From reading the CPS' statement, they placed great emphasis on the context of the alleged offence, and that it would be likely to result in an unsuccessful prosecution. I think if they were arrested inside the ground, that might be the context that swung their opinion. They might still be willing to pursue a case against Spurs supporters using it in public places away from the ground, e.g. at pubs, on the High St, on trains, etc. I think that might be the next test case.
Pretty sure they were arrested in the Lane. The West Ham game I think.
They have no case, you must show hostility towards an ethnic group under the definition of 'racialized'. Section 5 on its own is not offensive because the y word is only offensive if it is used as an ethnic slur, so they need 'racialized' on the charge.
does this mean we have won?
Yes. If the CPS aren't prepared to act, then the police won't bother to arrest anyone. This isn't just great news for Spurs supporters, it's great news for society. I wish I was a fly on the wall when Badele got the news
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The police won't arrest anyone unless they think they will get a prosecution. They have failed once and realise they will get even more egg on their faces if they fail again. Unlike you, I think we may have seen the last of this stupidity.
That said, unlike most people, I believe a word is nothing more than a combination of letters. I was brought to believe that sticks and stones break bones etc. People have become far to sensitive, and really need to man up. It's my opinion to insult someone for their weight, big nose or lack of hair is far more offensive than their colour or religion. For some reason the liberal fascists have targeted everything alien to our natural heritage as delicate areas. It's come to the point that the media would rather report on a racial slur than a murder or a rape. The rest of Europe must be pissing themselves when they read about our overreaction to these matters.
The police won't arrest anyone unless they think they will get a prosecution. They have failed once and realise they will get even more egg on their faces if they fail again. Unlike you, I think we may have seen the last of this stupidity.
That said, unlike most people, I believe a word is nothing more than a combination of letters. I was brought to believe that sticks and stones break bones etc. People have become far to sensitive, and really need to man up. It's my opinion to insult someone for their weight, big nose or lack of hair is far more offensive than their colour or religion. For some reason the liberal fascists have targeted everything alien to our natural heritage as delicate areas. It's come to the point that the media would rather report on a racial slur than a murder or a rape. The rest of Europe must be pissing themselves when they read about our overreaction to these matters.
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Same. I would have landed on his head and done a little poo.