That's true but other teams do that as well. Play the back up/cup keeper.
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Although the other top six still somehow manage to win them. Thats what the debate is about really
Yes, maybe. But after so long without a trophy, and 7 successive semi final losses we have more reason than them not to do so. Our supporters deserve better.
It is, which leads to the question why do the other top 6 manage to win them. To say that it's because Poch doesn't want to win them or that he doesn't take them seriously is a lazy answer.
Poch treats the cups the same as any other top 6 manager, maybe he his more vocal about it, which could be a failing.
I personally think it's not down to attitude (players want to win) or ability, we have/have had a good squad but maybe not enough depth of quality and also it does come down to a bit of luck.
Agreed actually. Because we were at something like full strength against an opponent we were better than, playing nominally "at home", and we totally bottled it.
You only need to look at the trf thread to see how many fuckers would absolutely wreck the club if let loose on the finances.
Indeed... What about all those mid table teams/managers that throw the cups early just to protect their mid-table status....?
That would drive me fucking mad if we literally had nothing else to play for every year.
For me trophies are the end game. This isn’t a Woolwich imitation. We’re shouldn’t be aiming to just finish 4th.
The aim should always be to win the league, and if not then at least show that you are building towards it. By challenging for the league every season, you get the CL by default.
The CL comes 2nd and this is exactly the same principle as the league. Aim to win it and show you can seriously contend.
Fact is the league and CL bring in the most money and with that revenue and high profile we can attract better and better players, which then means we can actually build the kind of squad that can compete seriously for both domestic cups without it hindering their league performances.
Poch has normally “gone for it” in a cup competition outside of the league every year
14-15: League cup
15-16: Europa League
16-17: Fa cup
17-18: Fa cup
18-19:League cup
We’ve just never had that serious squad depth to compete on multiple fronts... the question is how do we go about increasing that squad depth?
How can we have "7 successive semi final losses" when we've reached 2 finals in recent years (inc. CL)?
John-onomics.
We've had luck since we last won a trophy in 2008. We can't use that excuse all the time.
More income to channel into trf fees & wages.....
i.e.
New stadium.
Regular CL qualification.
Despite the constant criticism of how the club's been run over the last decade, we're on the right track.
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What was that funny name you called yourself on that fighting thingy forum, again?
Airfixx
What was that funny name you called yourself on that fighting thingy forum, again?
Airfixx
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Da fuck's your alter ego, you muppet? .....Adrian fucking Durham?
Btw, I guess you won't be commenting about your psuedo-stat above?
We’re a profit making club!!! Levys in it for the money. For a guy thats all about saving the pennies he sure gives himself a healthy salary doesnt he. Wouldnt suprise me if they go for a club like aston villa next. Good history, in dire need of restoration, breaking through back onto the PL scene. Profit to be earned, money to be made KER-CHING! Back of the net. Money money money money money money money 
A 5 pound note gets levy rock hard.
A 5 pound note gets levy rock hard.
We’re a profit making club!!! Levys in it for the money. For a guy thats all about saving the pennies he sure gives himself a healthy salary doesnt he. Wouldnt suprise me if they go for a club like aston villa next. Good history, in dire need of restoration, breaking through back onto the PL scene. Profit to be earned, money to be made KER-CHING! Back of the net. Money money money money money money money
A 5 pound note gets levy rock hard.
Damn good wage for a damn good chairman... Much like we pay a damn good wage to our damn good manager.
Damn good wage for a damn good chairman... Much like we pay a damn good wage to our damn good manager.
Yeah, top geezer. Firm but fair. Reckon he’d give me a decent wage too. £10.50 an hour to clean the toilets. decent rota, hours not too long, get to see a player now and again, discount burger after match days. Decent number.
Considering he's the first chairman since world war 2 to oversee a full decade without a single major honour I assume you set your standards pretty low then.
Edit: thank God people like you ain't in charge of the club coffers
As a club there have been instances when we haven't taken it seriously enough and our opponents have.