Lucas Moura

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The only thing he said was being opposed to distributing a "Gay Kit" for children, and you're saying he supports killing of homosexuals? ONLY SHIT.
Bolsonaro said that "I would be incapable of loving a gay son," and added that he would prefer any son of his "to die in an accident..."

That's a drop in the bucket compared to the things he's said about Black people, women and the poor.
 
Bolsonaro said that "I would be incapable of loving a gay son," and added that he would prefer any son of his "to die in an accident..."

That's a drop in the bucket compared to the things he's said about Black people, women and the poor.

I agree that some of the things he has said are absolutely disgusting.

Having said that, nobody should jump to the automatic conclusion that Lucas endorsing this man's campaign for goverment means he is agreeing with his views on homosexuals, women etc.

Unless I'm missing something and those radical views are written in black and white, in his manifesto, as policies for his government.
 
I agree that some of the things he has said are absolutely disgusting.

Having said that, nobody should jump to the automatic conclusion that Lucas endorsing this man's campaign for goverment means he is agreeing with his views on homosexuals, minorities etc.

Unless I'm missing something and those radical views are written in black and white, in his manifesto, as policies for his government.
Of course Lucas supporting him dosen't mean he agrees with everything the man says but it does open an element of possibility that he could do which i'm not sure I like.

On twitter he was actively denying things that Bolsonaro had said in the past too.
Hopefully he learns from this mistake.

:avbpray:
 
Of course Lucas supporting him dosen't mean he agrees with everything the man says but it does open an element of possibility that he could do which i'm not sure I like.

On twitter he was actively denying things that Bolsonaro had said in the past too.
Hopefully he learns from this mistake.

:avbpray:

Assumption is a dangerous thing.

I'm not completely ruling out the possibility that Lucas Moura is a extreme far-right fascist. I also am not ruling out that it's a genuine possibility Lucas doesn't really know what he's talking about and isn't aware of the full history of the man he's endorsing for government.

Who knows, but to just assume that based on the very little that he's liked and said on twitter doesn't sit comfortably with me.

He would have been advised by the club / his agent already to stop tweeting about politics, so I doubt we'll see anymore from him.
 
The bin dipper's keeper Alison Becker also supports and follows Bolsonaro on instragram yet you won't here a peep from the media about that. Only when it's one of our own that it gets plastered all over the interwebs.
 
Assumption is a dangerous thing.

I'm not completely ruling out the possibility that Lucas Moura is a extreme far-right fascist. I also am not ruling out that it's a genuine possibility Lucas doesn't really know what he's talking about and isn't aware of the full history of the man he's endorsing for government.

Who knows, but to just assume that based on the very little that he's liked and said on twitter doesn't sit comfortably with me.

He would have been advised by the club / his agent already to stop tweeting about politics, so I doubt we'll see anymore from him.
So he cant talk about politics unless he's on the fascist far-left side?
 
I still support Lucas at the club but i'm amazed by some hand waving this away here.

If this was a Chav player that came out in support of him we would of hounded them.

This is a candidate that said Indigenous people and blacks have a "culture of crookedness"
Wonder how Sanchez or Rose feel about him supporting someone like that?

I think it's hard to judge without knowing the way of life in Brazil, the other candidates, all the bits and pieces that go along with it.

What I'm sure of is that Lucas is a really good guy, he's always smiling, he takes time out to share moments with fans, he's clearly very friendly etc. He might be misguided but then so might the people judging him when it comes to this. We all know the media like to stir things up and whilst it ain't initially good to see what this certain political leader seems to advocate, I don't think people should pass judgement without knowing all of the ins and outs regarding what exactly has been said, what this guy could bring to his homeland, what exactly is going down that leads to Lucas believing a drastic change is required for the place he calls home etc. It's a little like people saying that everyone that voted for Brexit is a nationalist or adverse to foreign people wanting to better themselves. There is so much more people disregard on so many matters and this could be the case with Brazil and little Moura. Unless someone knows the ins and outs of Brazil at present it's hard to judge in my opinion
 
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I think it's hard to judge without knowing the way of life in Brazil, the other candidates, all the bits and pieces that go along with it.

What I'm sure of is that Lucas is a really good guy, he's always smiling, he takes time out to share moments with fans, he's clearly very friendly etc. He might be misguided but then so might the people judging him when it comes to this. We all know the media like to stir things up and whilst it ain't initially good to see what this certain political leader seems to advocate, I don't think people should pass judgement without knowing all of the ins and outs regarding what exactly has been said, what this guy could bring to his homeland, what exactly is going down that leads to Lucas believing a drastic change is required for the place he calls home etc. It's a little like people saying that everyone that voted for Brexit is a nationalist or adverse to foreign people wanting to better themselves. There isn't so much more people disregard on so many matters and this could be the case with Brazil and little Moura. Unless someone knows the ins and outs of Brazil at present it's hard to judge in my opinion
I think it's a bit different to the Brexit situation there are all kinds of reasons why people voted to leave whereas Bolsonaro has a pretty clear ultra conservative outlook. But yeah I just hope it's misguided.

Your right about the media though Liverpools keeper Alisson is a supporter and we haven't heard a thing about that from the press. Funny that.
 
I think it's hard to judge without knowing the way of life in Brazil, the other candidates, all the bits and pieces that go along with it.

What I'm sure of is that Lucas is a really good guy, he's always smiling, he takes time out to share moments with fans, he's clearly very friendly etc. He might be misguided but then so might the people judging him when it comes to this. We all know the media like to stir things up and whilst it ain't initially good to see what this certain political leader seems to advocate, I don't think people should pass judgement without knowing all of the ins and outs regarding what exactly has been said, what this guy could bring to his homeland, what exactly is going down that leads to Lucas believing a drastic change is required for the place he calls home etc. It's a little like people saying that everyone that voted for Brexit is a nationalist or adverse to foreign people wanting to better themselves. There isn't so much more people disregard on so many matters and this could be the case with Brazil and little Moura. Unless someone knows the ins and outs of Brazil at present it's hard to judge in my opinion
Well said

Certain Spurs Twitter accounts have exposed themselves as fans of their own internet popularity over being fans of the club.

There's been many questionable figures over the years who have been supported y the public possibly because of the fact something bad is needed to fix something worse (Sadam, Gaddafi etc).

Too eager to judge and take higher ground. And I'm an anti capitalist commie scumbag at heart, so there's no political agenda.
 
I think it's a bit different to the Brexit situation there are all kinds of reasons why people voted to leave whereas Bolsonaro has a pretty clear ultra conservative outlook. But yeah I just hope it's misguided.

Your right about the media though Liverpools keeper Alisson is a supporter and we haven't heard a thing about that from the press. Funny that.
I think it's a bit similar to Trump really.

Many people who supported him did so because they wanted the republican party without the church involved or things along those lines. Doesn't mean they endorse pussy grabbing etc.

Without proper translations and knowledge we're probably all wasting our time though.
 
As far as I can see the main gist of his thinking was that the same old faces have led Brazil into the mess it is now and it's time for a change, but if this guy turns out to be more of the same he can always be voted out next time...
 
The only thing he said was being opposed to distributing a "Gay Kit" for children, and you're saying he supports killing of homosexuals? ONLY SHIT.
You seem to be scholled in paranoid fair right shit, don't you? Brazil was never at risk of being a socialist dictatorship as you suggested before and this "gay kit" is a big fake news as it was proved before. The only people that wants and support a dictatorship is far right scumbags like this cunt Bolsonaro and his family. There's a lot of right wing candidates that has viable ideas, this guy is simply a great pile o shite with extremist ideas and Lucas, for me, can fuck off with his suporting, lost all the respect for him.
 
Those Brazilian players are supporting Bolsonaro only because they are evangelicals. Majority of evangelicals think they are under some kind of attack from the media, gays, science, spheric planets, etc. Whats very bizarre since they are almost 30% of the population, have a lot of power, are over-represented in politics and pretty much control the Parliament.

They see Bolsonaro as someone who will defend tgeir values. But i doubt it has anything to do with being alt right in the case of Lucas Moura.
 
Alt right..... some people are just Right.

No idea where this Alt comes from these days.
Is it because they don’t want to describe themselves as ‘far’ right?
 
I couldn't give a rat's gash who Lucas Moura votes for, I hadn't given the matter a milisecond's thought until I saw this thread.

For all I know, Harry Kane votes Tory, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest

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It's a funny situation.

Footballers are people and allowed to think and say what they think along with the rest of us.

Unless, naturally, they say something we don't like. In which case they are a fucking bunch of fascist/nazist/racist/classist/bigotted/sexist/misogynist c*nts.

Freedom of speech is like thinking for yourself: hard.

In particular other peoples freedom.
 
I agree that some of the things he has said are absolutely disgusting.

Having said that, nobody should jump to the automatic conclusion that Lucas endorsing this man's campaign for goverment means he is agreeing with his views on homosexuals, women etc.

Unless I'm missing something and those radical views are written in black and white, in his manifesto, as policies for his government.
Neither politics nor hatred are often "black and white". Hitler's manifesto didn't mention that he was going to start a world war, commit genocide, and kill millions in concentration camps. It's pretty sensible for LGBT+ people in Brazil to be seriously worried about what a man who's on the record as saying that he'd rather a son of his died than be gay, that parents should beat the gay out of children, that gay people don't deserve even the most basic of rights, regardless of what his manifesto says, because it's indicative of the attitude he's likely to take in government.
 
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