Injuries. WHY?!?

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I'm getting fully irritated by the raft of injuries we have. I know that in past seasons people have claimed that we're particularly unlucky in terms of injuries (which I demonstrated was not statistically the case over the course of multiple seasons), but this is really starting to become a joke.

So the question is, might luck not be the culprit? We have a brand new training ground, so you'd think our team would benefit from the finest in sports medicine and the rest. Yet here we are, with everyone seemingly carrying a knock, and none of them (afiact) being some sort of freak accident.

I think I read somewhere that TS claimed that AVB overworked the players, which might lead to their breaking down, but AVB also rotated a ton to try and keep players fresh. In fact, it's the players who have been rotated who have been hurt… on again, off again, on again… (Sandro, Lamela, Eriksen, Kaboul, Chadli, just to start) Our most consistent players—Walker, Lloris—in terms of "first on the team sheet" have also shown the most durability. Or is this a chicken-egg thing?

In the baseball world, there are injury anoraks who have managed to accumulate damning evidence that certain clubs just have terrible physios. That their players get hurt more often and stay hurt longer than makes sense within simple random variance. I think they've shown the same in the NFL, but I could be wrong. Maybe Levy put all our money into fancy equipment and not enough into fitness trainers, nutritionists, stretching specialists, yoga pants… ?

On the one hand, it's not the case that Spurs typically have more injuries than normal (either in terms of matches missed by the squad or number of players hurt). Yet I can't help but wonder wtf when I consider our fancy training ground.
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Yes somthing is just not right at the club to have all those players out at one time and it is like they are out for ages.I remember a time in the late 90s when it was like this
 
Think we actually have the best squad we've had in years to cope (left back aside) however what's been our undoing has been the injuries have seemed to be concentrated in certain positions so we have a situation with loads of options in one area but no-one in another.
I believe they refer to it as 'sods law'
 
this is happening because the training is bad,Reminds me of the harry redknapp era when we were always having a contingency of players with HAMSTRING injuries .We played far more games under AVB and in a more compressed time period. Injuries were kept minimal.

Nonetheless, we have thrown the baby out with the bath water.Training routine, physio, performance monirtoring, Rotation..ect all gone.
 
Its not a new thing, I have always said our doctors trained at the same place as Howard Shipman, they seem to take 3 times longer than any other club to get our players right
 
I'm not sure I agree @ Éperons Éperons

Eriksen for a start was injured with Denmark, I don't recall any other injuries.

Sandro and Kaboul suffered unfortunate serious knee injuries during a match, hardly the physios fault?

Lamela only just got injured for the first time? And Chadli has mostly been available this season...
 
Eriksen for a start was injured with Denmark, I don't recall any other injuries.

Sandro and Kaboul suffered unfortunate serious knee injuries during a match, hardly the physios fault?

Lamela only just got injured for the first time? And Chadli has mostly been available this season...
OK, Eriksen may have been an overreach. Sandro and Kaboul have been in and out since their injuries. I'm not saying the injuries themselves are the physios' fault, but I do wonder about subsequent unreliability. Kaboul is most likely done, as he's just got bone on bone now (is that right?), but what's up with Sandro? If he's good enough to come back from the knee injury last year, and then goes (it feels like) right back to the injured list.

Chadli has not had a serious injury, but I recall reading several times this autumn that he was not available for selection because of injury.

It's just frustrating, and I don't know how much can be put to simply bad luck. But we also don't have the whole story, etc., etc.
 
OK, Eriksen may have been an overreach. Sandro and Kaboul have been in and out since their injuries. I'm not saying the injuries themselves are the physios' fault, but I do wonder about subsequent unreliability. Kaboul is most likely done, as he's just got bone on bone now (is that right?), but what's up with Sandro? If he's good enough to come back from the knee injury last year, and then goes (it feels like) right back to the injured list.

Chadli has not had a serious injury, but I recall reading several times this autumn that he was not available for selection because of injury.

It's just frustrating, and I don't know how much can be put to simply bad luck. But we also don't have the whole story, etc., etc.

We shouldn't use it as an excuse. Especially with what Liverpool for example have accomplished with their injuries and even those tossers up the road. Leave the injury excuse for the small teams, like West Ham.
 
Obviously having Charlie Adam on a 'one man trail of terror' against us doesn't help. But I did read that Tim said Pauli was struggling a bit at half time, so he didn't help our cause by sending him out there again, though I understand there would be valid reasons etc. Rose had no need to be on the pitch v Tromso. Sandro played v Pool after a late fitness test, IIRC Naughton was patched up for that game to play LB, why?

We do a fair bit of self-inflicted damage on ourselves.

To some extent we set ourselves demanding challenges, without the requisite squad. AVB was chasing 'top 4' and all the trophies. Also he could have used our squad better, Fryers could have played LB v Pool and Tromso. Of course AVB had his reasons to play Naughton and Rose. Football is a cruel game so often.
 
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seems like we are always missing key players at crucial times through injury ... suppose its just the nature of the game, but it does feel that we suffer more than most.
 
Anyone here know anything about the medical staff? It seems bizarre that with our brand spanking new training ground we are still getting injuries to this degree. I can only assume that the problem must come from who it is that actually oversees the treatment of players. It's the only area where I can see the possibility of a consistent problem that may have be carried through various management eras.
 
Injuries like Sandro (last year), Kaboul, and Paulinho obviously have nothing to do with the physios. However, it always seems like we have little weird muscle injuries keeping players out that don't happen during games. For example, Siggy and Holtby being out currently. So frustrating. Feels like that type of stuff shouldn't be happening.
 
And what with it being Christmas and all, there MIGHT be a propensity to extend the sick leave for a bit of extra family time...
 
It's the only area where I can see the possibility of a consistent problem that may have be carried through various management eras.
I recall in the early days of the forum (or maybe the pod), someone claimed to be a physical therapist or somesuch and noted that Lennon always seemed to have the same injury: bum hamstring. Something that, according to the poster, is basically always the result of improper stretching before physical activity.

If that is the case, it absolutely melts my brain that Lennon could miss as many matches as he has for us because of this. And that's why I wonder (not that we'll ever know) if there isn't something institutional afoot.
 
I recall in the early days of the forum (or maybe the pod), someone claimed to be a physical therapist or somesuch and noted that Lennon always seemed to have the same injury: bum hamstring. Something that, according to the poster, is basically always the result of improper stretching before physical activity.

If that is the case, it absolutely melts my brain that Lennon could miss as many matches as he has for us because of this. And that's why I wonder (not that we'll ever know) if there isn't something institutional afoot.

it also in lennons case not be helped by his explosive acceleration ...bale if im not mistaken had hamstring injuries all the time too..
 
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