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And drinking very heavily.
In six full seasons he's missed 55 games through injury averaging 45 club games a season .... that doesn't include the 10 games for England he plays most years ... 55 games a year is more than 90% of EPL players.
No question he needs looking after, this season depending on him making the Euros (and if they are played with CORVID) he will struggle to play 35 games but don't right him off just yet.
Not writing him off mate
Just don’t see a Real Madrid or a Barca willing to meet our asking price when he clearly has a weakness in his ankle that you would think will get worse over time
Especially as it seems like we are hellbent on ensuring that he has no serious backup / competition
And getting lumps kicked out of him.
....And back in those days you could leave your back door open so neighbours could borrow stuff.
...And you could go to a sweet shop and get a huge bag of sweets for a penny.
...And Wagon Wheels were more than a foot in diameter.
Saw this thread was bumped up and hoped he was miraculously back in training.
1) Only 'cos nobody had anything worth knicking
2) Everybody had tooth rot
3) Tasted like chocolate covered cardboard.
Why would you even be hoping that we could sell to Real Madrid or Barca?
Harry is a once in a generation player for us, and having him for as long as he is willing to stay is an absolute privilege.
Saw this thread was bumped up and hoped he was miraculously back in training.
I hope we don’t see him until next season and the World Cup is called off for Coronavirus
or he’s not ready.
Then and only then will we see Kane back to his best and fit.
No more quick fixes, even though Jose hinted at it, I just think it’s not worth it.
I am not hoping for that thoughWhy would you even be hoping that we could sell to Real Madrid or Barca?
Harry is a once in a generation player for us, and having him for as long as he is willing to stay is an absolute privilege.
Just stating my opinion that I don’t believe It will happen
I said it will be a shame for him on a personal level as I don’t believe we are winning silverware anytime soon but that’s not the same as me saying I want Kane to leave
The fact that he's still a world top 5 striker (according to me and a majority of the football fans I've spoken to) after all he's been through in a relatively short space of time just speaks to his generational talent.
Let's not speculate about him getting worse over time or coming back worse than before. What's the point? Seems like unnecessary doom and gloom. We haven't seen his medical records. For all we know, four months out rehabbing, relaxing and spending time with the world's best doctors will actually leave him in a better state than he was in before.
There are far too many confounding variables to say that he's finished or even to conclude that he's never going to be as good as he was a few years ago. His injuries have coincided with general downturns in the overall form of the team; he hasn't had enough injury-free time since the start of 2019, which is bad for him as well as leaving him prone to a ton of cognitive-biased analyses; he's looked a lot freer and happier playing for England in the last 12 months and his performances have been fantastic, even relative to the level of opposition (England had the Czech Republic and Kosovo, but made them look like San Marino and Liechtenstein); and related to the last point, Kane immediately looked so much better - as good as he ever did - during some of those early Jose games, which suggests that there's a psychological aspect[1].
And there's still the explanation you always have to look out for in science and logic: that everything that has happened so far has just been plain old bad luck (I mean, I can demonstrate that there's a ton of bad luck involved using the data available to the public.. -- and I've done so before in this thead). Historical events don't necessarily predict future events. In fact, they very often don't.
At the risk of repeating myself, there are far too many confounding variables to say that he's finished or even to conclude that he's never going to be as good as he was a few years ago. So let's wait and see what happens before making needlessly pessimistic projections. I believe Kane has it in him to bring it back but even if he stays at his post-Poch level for Spurs, he's still world class (and if you doubt his ability to make the difference, go back and watch that hard-fought Wolves victory from earlier in the season: Kane didn't even score but he was everywhere doing everything to eke out that win, becoming a solid MOTM candidate).
[1] I don't know why this is the case and my comment is not an attack on Spurs. I don't know what's going on at the club, with the squad, these days, but I think we all realise there's been some kind of general malaise around the place for at least the last year. FWIW, I absolutely believe that Kane is one of the players who still tries hard for the team, but so much of mood and motivation is not even conscious.
Let's not speculate about him getting worse over time or coming back worse than before. What's the point? Seems like unnecessary doom and gloom. We haven't seen his medical records. For all we know, four months out rehabbing, relaxing and spending time with the world's best doctors will actually leave him in a better state than he was in before.
There are far too many confounding variables to say that he's finished or even to conclude that he's never going to be as good as he was a few years ago. His injuries have coincided with general downturns in the overall form of the team; he hasn't had enough injury-free time since the start of 2019, which is bad for him as well as leaving him prone to a ton of cognitive-biased analyses; he's looked a lot freer and happier playing for England in the last 12 months and his performances have been fantastic, even relative to the level of opposition (England had the Czech Republic and Kosovo, but made them look like San Marino and Liechtenstein); and related to the last point, Kane immediately looked so much better - as good as he ever did - during some of those early Jose games, which suggests that there's a psychological aspect[1].
And there's still the explanation you always have to look out for in science and logic: that everything that has happened so far has just been plain old bad luck (I mean, I can demonstrate that there's a ton of bad luck involved using the data available to the public.. -- and I've done so before in this thead). Historical events don't necessarily predict future events. In fact, they very often don't.
At the risk of repeating myself, there are far too many confounding variables to say that he's finished or even to conclude that he's never going to be as good as he was a few years ago. So let's wait and see what happens before making needlessly pessimistic projections. I believe Kane has it in him to bring it back but even if he stays at his post-Poch level for Spurs, he's still world class (and if you doubt his ability to make the difference, go back and watch that hard-fought Wolves victory from earlier in the season: Kane didn't even score but he was everywhere doing everything to eke out that win, becoming a solid MOTM candidate).
[1] I don't know why this is the case and my comment is not an attack on Spurs. I don't know what's going on at the club, with the squad, these days, but I think we all realise there's been some kind of general malaise around the place for at least the last year. FWIW, I absolutely believe that Kane is one of the players who still tries hard for the team, but so much of mood and motivation is not even conscious.
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(Realises that the source given is The Sun......)
(Realises that the source given is The Sun......)
fuck england. get him a proper pre season for once.
Nice info.
If there's substance to it, which I doubt, he'd be looking at Sheffield United away 6.5 weeks from now. That gives us 7 games left, 4 to play before then in the league (Wolves H, Burnley A, Man U H, West Ham H, very manageable if we pull something together sharpish).
In all honesty, of we can get him or Sonny back for the Sheffield United game inthink we'll have a decent chance of getting something good out of the season. All speculation though and I don't expect it to be the case.
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It's funny, coz it's true.
