Eric Dier

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I love Dier, I think he's a class player and it would be a terrible decision to sell him. As a CB in a back 3 he's very good, has the skill and passing to be effective and enough defensive ability. He's been less effective in a back 4 but he was still pretty good, and did enough to keep out Wimmer.
the only player I'd sell to Utd is Sissoko. the cunts.
 
Your argument relies on only onr example; a fairly shaky foundation.
Coupled with the fact that Ronaldo is a once in a lifetime player and that his childhood dream was to play for RM and your argument is pretty much void.
Yes, Man UTD are a selling club, but only if you are Ronaldo, Messi, Maradonna or Pele.
It only requires one example comparing their size to ours. They sold one exceptional player we sold three, all 3 agitated, 2 down tools and 1 we kept a season longer. All we got handsomely rewarded (doubled, trebled and a world record fee) ManU paid £90m+ for Pogba and still was forced to sell CR. Barca and Real I could agree on not ManU
 
It only requires one example comparing their size to ours. They sold one exceptional player we sold three, all 3 agitated, 2 down tools and 1 we kept a season longer. All we got handsomely rewarded (doubled, trebled and a world record fee) ManU paid £90m+ for Pogba and still was forced to sell CR. Barca and Real I could agree on not ManU

In the time frame you are talking about we have let go of Carrick, Campbell, Berbatov, Keane, Modric AND Bale.
They have let go of one and because we made a profit we are the same? Going to have to disagree.
Difference between us and them is that they might sell a Ronaldo but they can afford to buy another Ronaldo.
IMO we are no longer a selling club but for as long as I've been alive, Man U haven't been ether.
 
Dier can stay - hands off.
We have plenty to sell prior Eric.
Our needs to be to keep increasing our 1st team starting squad. Reckon we are 3-4 under first team starters in terms of squad depth.
Just need add another two starters next yr while allowing those that are not to leave.
 
Hopefully Manure go all the way to EL Final, and then lose. We play them just after their semi final when they'd still be hungover.

That would consign them to another season competing for the El Thursday Nightio Trophy. Yeah, can really see our players being excited about that.
 
And that's the point they sold their best player - in-voluntarily. For their wealth and footprint their best still forced a move elsewhere.
They are awful because they are greedy and because they believe they have been anointed the best by the footballing gods and as such have the divine right. Bollocks they do, looking forward to the the team and especially Dier and Alli crushing the divinity right out of them at the Lane as a final parting gift to a great old ground!
 
It's a weird feeling seeing a headline about one of our players being link with Manure and giving zero fucks about it.

Plus the only reason the cunts that makeup these stories have done so is he's had a lot of coverage on the international break.
 
In the time frame you are talking about we have let go of Carrick, Campbell, Berbatov, Keane, Modric AND Bale.
They have let go of one and because we made a profit we are the same? Going to have to disagree.
Difference between us and them is that they might sell a Ronaldo but they can afford to buy another Ronaldo.
IMO we are no longer a selling club but for as long as I've been alive, Man U haven't been ether.
Sorry didn't include Carrick, Keane said he'd stay then manufactured a boyhood club bollocks story at the end of the season and returned with his tails between his legs, Scumball ran down his contract. Yes they can afford another Ronald but can the attract one, DiMaria went to them after Real pushed him out, comparing both club revenues and historic trophy hauls fact is their best player wanted out and there was nothing they could do to stop him, again with the exception of Barca and Real everybody else is a selling club we can argue player numbers all day, they didn't want their best player to leave and he did.
 
I suspect United are trying for one of our players, but Dier would be a surprise to me. Where as Toby would not be.

A couple of weeks ago we had Jose saying how he "can't" get Tottenham players now as we are too strong ( odd ) then Drunk Fergie does an interview reflecting on them taking our players and how Levy is so hard to deal with.

Then we get United's national mouth piece, the comic that is the Sun, screaming headlines about United moving for Dier.

It all adds up to a "wow....despite everything Jose is so wonderful he beat Tottenham and Levy and United are so good that X player could not say no" and then we have anouther 10 years in the shadows of us selling our best players to United doctrine.

I hope that ultimately, as with Modric, Levy simply says FUCK OFF. He should and probably will.

As soon as the new Stadium is open and the PR facilities are much improved we will start seeing some press attention that is positive, of that I am sure.

United have the best prawn sandwiches. As soon as our prawn sandwiches are better then watch how much the lazy bastards in the press favour us !
While I am joking to an extent this is largely how the press work, the more freebies and jollies you offer them the more they are willing to whore themselves for you.
 
Easy to forget how young Eric is, imo has been better than Stones this season (although that doesn't say much). I think his future is at cb and he'll turn out fine if he's just given time
 
Easy to forget how young Eric is, imo has been better than Stones this season (although that doesn't say much). I think his future is at cb and he'll turn out fine if he's just given time


Prefer him as a holding midfielder directly in front of Toby n Jan but want him to stay

Deffo in Poch's plans
 

I love Dier. The only thing I'd say about that comp is it highlights how good he is when he isn't pressed. Dier's weakness is when he is put under pressure, not saying he is even a bad player when he is, just that you wouldn't find a showreel of him being effective as say Dembele when being pressed by the oppo. It's why he doesn't look as good as a CB as he will often have an attacker on his shoulder and less time.
 
If Pocchettino primarily views him as a defender, then it's best for all parties that he moves on; he'll only ever be decent in that postion, but as a midfield player he is/can be very good, and a mainstay of the England team for the best part of a decade.

He'd be a real asset to United; Mourinho has a fetish for large men, and they need a proper anchor to provide a platform for the Dennis Rodman parody.

I agree that United can't take Tottenham's best players anymore; if they could, theyd gladly replace all but De Gea, Valencia and perhaps Mkhitaryan with the Spurs first 11. But Dier isn't a key player, is he? He's being shoehorned into a back 3 to accomodate Wanyama, who at 25 isn't going anywhere soon. Even Winks is probably ahead of him in his 'best' position.

With the stadium costs taken into account, Levy isn't going to sanction huge fees for upgrades or quality depth in the squad without recycling assets; for the quoted £40m, you could replace Dier with Michael Keane, a definite upgrade in a defensive context, and also cover a large chunk of the fee for a Tielmens or a Barkley. Sacrificing one quality player to acquire two would push the club closer towards success.
 
If Pocchettino primarily views him as a defender, then it's best for all parties that he moves on; he'll only ever be decent in that postion, but as a midfield player he is/can be very good, and a mainstay of the England team for the best part of a decade.

He'd be a real asset to United; Mourinho has a fetish for large men, and they need a proper anchor to provide a platform for the Dennis Rodman parody.

I agree that United can't take Tottenham's best players anymore; if they could, theyd gladly replace all but De Gea, Valencia and perhaps Mkhitaryan with the Spurs first 11. But Dier isn't a key player, is he? He's being shoehorned into a back 3 to accomodate Wanyama, who at 25 isn't going anywhere soon. Even Winks is probably ahead of him in his 'best' position.

With the stadium costs taken into account, Levy isn't going to sanction huge fees for upgrades or quality depth in the squad without recycling assets; for the quoted £40m, you could replace Dier with Michael Keane, a definite upgrade in a defensive context, and also cover a large chunk of the fee for a Tielmens or a Barkley. Sacrificing one quality player to acquire two would push the club closer towards success.
Completely disagree. Dier is highly rated by Poch he NEVER misses a game! That is all you need to know and tells you how highly he is regarded, he is keeping out of the team two specialist CB's. It's his versatility that is also a massive strength of his, as he can not only play DM, CB but also RB. He is very important player to Spurs.

The fact he has played as CB this year for Spurs has NOT effected his role/position for England where he has played DM in every game. It's safe to say that he has made that position his own in the England team, so much so that he is touted by many as a future England captain. Lastly I'm sure the tactical flexibility that Dier brings to a team by being able to play in 3 positions is absolutely perfect for tournament football and this will not have escaped Southgate's attention.
 
Completely disagree. Dier is highly rated by Poch he NEVER misses a game! That is all you need to know and tells you how highly he is regarded, he is keeping out of the team two specialist CB's. It's his versatility that is also a massive strength of his, as he can not only play DM, CB but also RB. He is very important player to Spurs.

The fact he has played as CB this year for Spurs has NOT effected his role/position for England where he has played DM in every game. It's safe to say that he has made that position his own in the England team, so much so that he is touted by many as a future England captain. Lastly I'm sure the tactical flexibility that Dier brings to a team by being able to play in 3 positions is absolutely perfect for tournament football and this will not have escaped Southgate's attention.

Who are these two specialist central defenders he's keeping out? Wimmer is completely left footed so was never a candidate/rival for the right of the back 3 that Dier occupies....

I don't doubt that Pocchettino rates him; any coach would. But if he saw him as a key player he'd be building the team around him in the central of midfield.

Utility men seldom fulfil their potential; Phil Jones has just reached 25 and has no specialist postion due to his lack of constant exposure to one. James Milner found his niche as a central midfielder at Villa in his early 20's, but left to fill gaps at City and then Liverpool. He's had a good career, but a few more years developing centrally for Villa could have seen him peak as a far more accomplished footballer.

Having Michael Keane or Calum Chambers (as is rumoured today) on the right of the defence would benefit Spurs more than begrudgingly accommodating Dier in there.
 
Who are these two specialist central defenders he's keeping out? Wimmer is completely left footed so was never a candidate/rival for the right of the back 3 that Dier occupies....

I don't doubt that Pocchettino rates him; any coach would. But if he saw him as a key player he'd be building the team around him in the central of midfield.

Utility men seldom fulfil their potential; Phil Jones has just reached 25 and has no specialist postion due to his lack of constant exposure to one. James Milner found his niche as a central midfielder at Villa in his early 20's, but left to fill gaps at City and then Liverpool. He's had a good career, but a few more years developing centrally for Villa could have seen him peak as a far more accomplished footballer.

Having Michael Keane or Calum Chambers (as is rumoured today) on the right of the defence would benefit Spurs more than begrudgingly accommodating Dier in there.
Poch doesn't just chuck him in the team for a laugh, he's a good player Poch rates highly and because of that & the fact the rumours have started with The Sun no chance he leaves.

Your United agenda on here is tragic
 
Who are these two specialist central defenders he's keeping out? Wimmer is completely left footed so was never a candidate/rival for the right of the back 3 that Dier occupies....

I don't doubt that Pocchettino rates him; any coach would. But if he saw him as a key player he'd be building the team around him in the central of midfield.

Utility men seldom fulfil their potential; Phil Jones has just reached 25 and has no specialist postion due to his lack of constant exposure to one. James Milner found his niche as a central midfielder at Villa in his early 20's, but left to fill gaps at City and then Liverpool. He's had a good career, but a few more years developing centrally for Villa could have seen him peak as a far more accomplished footballer.

Having Michael Keane or Calum Chambers (as is rumoured today) on the right of the defence would benefit Spurs more than begrudgingly accommodating Dier in there.
The two CB's his is keeping out are CCV and Wimmer, couldn't give a fuck if we are talking about a back three or four, it doesn't matter, they are CB's and get zero game time because of Dier.

"Build a team around him", what a load of cleiched bollocks. Why not build a team around Alli, Kane, Eriksen. We are a team that isn't built around any single player, I'd say that is why we are so good. A team bigger than the sum of it's parts, no linchpin player.

Phill Jones is shite, has always been shite. He can barely stand up without tripping over his own feet he is that shite. Truly one of the worst players in whatever role I have ever seen him play in, utter dog shit.

If we go for another CB, as has been reported, then I would suggest that is to replace Wimmer (a player who I thought was great last year). "Begrudgingly accommodating" = the best defence in the league, he has played there all season contributing to this best defence in the league, sorry mate nothing begrudging about it at all.
 
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