Christian Eriksen

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Have to agree sammyspurs sammyspurs , it's never Eriksen's fault. The players around him not being good enough is my favourite one.

Why do RM only want him as a squad player? Why are no other teams clambering over themselves to buy him for a cheap price because of his contract? Simply because the expert scouts and managers realise he's just not that good. I've heard people say he's better than Kane ffs. If Kane were available for anything under £100m then you'd have a queue to Woolwich.
 
It seems to me like there's some straw-man arguments being made by what, for the sake of brevity, I'll call the anti-Eriksen crowd.

The first is that those who think Eriksen is a very good player (one of the best on the team) and difficult to replace also think he is THE best player on the team or one of the best players in the world. Maybe some people think that. I know I don't think that.

The second is that those who think Eriksen is a very good player are all saying "the stats, the stats!" to defend Eriksen's performance last season. Maybe some people are doing that. I know I'm not. The stats from Whoscored suggest that Eriksen's performance in the Premier League (a 7.08 average) was down significantly from the year before (7.4), the year before that (7.53), and the year before that (7.45). But a 7.08 is still quite good. So the stats might suggest that Eriksen went from very good/verging on excellent to just good/very good last season. An off-season, but still a very effective player. Christian Eriksen - History

When I pointed out that Eriksen had 6 strong seasons at Spurs and couldn't believe the slagging he was taking, I was then told that it's only last season that was being slagged. This part is especially incredible to me. The anti-Eriksen squad is now suggesting Eriksen is not that good and is fairly easily replaced because he had one modestly off season? If he was 32, I'd get it. You could argue he's in decline and this is just the beginning. Or if he'd picked up a chronic injury last season that will limit his production forever. Or if we'd gotten a new player that had forced Eriksen into a position he's uncomfortable with, and Eriksen would have to keep playing in that position, then I think you'd have a reasonable argument for just using Eriksen's most recent numbers. But none of that is true. Eriksen is 27. He's in his prime. He's healthy. The way we play, and the way we use him has been largely consistent during Poch's regime and will remain so in the future. He's far more likely to return to his historical average than not. To ignore 5 years worth of performances in favor of the single most recent year is absurd.

I don't know how ANYBODY could think Eriksen will be easy to replace if he leaves. It should be obvious (but somehow isn't) that he's one of our best players, AND that we don't have anybody else who can do what he does as effectively as he does it. It honestly seems like the anti-Eriksen crowd is trolling, but somehow I think they really believe what they're saying.

So here's where we stand with Eriksen:

1) He's a very good player, one of the top players on the team, and has a unique skill set that will be very difficult to replace. But he's not the best on the team and not one of the best in the world.

2) He had a modestly off season last year, but was still good.

3) He's more likely to return to his long-term very good/verging on excellent performance level than repeat last season's performance level.
 
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Having Ndombele alongside him is a whole new ballgame ... Eriksen has been double marked in every game he plays for us, when the opposition saw Eriksen, Sissoko, Dier lined up against them who did they worry about? Change that to Eriksen, Ndombele, Sissoko and that's a whole different challenge ... add LoCelso, Winks, Lamela and a couple more youngsters ... now who the feck do you mark?

remember in front of them we have Kane, Dele, Son, Lucas ... feck as an opposing defender that's a pretty scary attacking line-up .... or at least that's the plan ....
 
It seems to me like there's some straw-man arguments being made by what, for the sake of brevity, I'll call the anti-Eriksen crowd.

The first is that those who think Eriksen is a very good player (one of the best on the team) and difficult to replace also think he is THE best player on the team or one of the best players in the world. Maybe some people think that. I know I don't think that.

The second is that those who think Eriksen is a very good player are all saying "the stats, the stats!" to defend Eriksen's performance last season. Maybe some people are doing that. I know I'm not. The stats from Whoscored suggest that Eriksen's performance in the Premier League (a 7.08 average) was down significantly from the year before (7.4), the year before that (7.53), and the year before that (7.45). But a 7.08 is still quite good. So the stats might suggest that Eriksen went from very good/verging on excellent to just good/very good last season. An off-season, but still a very effective player. Christian Eriksen - History

When I pointed out that people has had 6 strong seasons at Spurs and couldn't believe the slagging he was taking, I was then told that it's only last season that was being slagged. This part is especially incredible to me. The anti-Eriksen squad is now suggesting Eriksen is not that good and is fairly easily replaced because he had one modestly off season? If he was 32, I'd get it. You could argue he's in decline and this is just the beginning. Or if he'd picked up a chronic injury last season that will limit his production forever. Or if we'd gotten a new player that had forced Eriksen into a position he's uncomfortable with, and Eriksen would have to keep playing in that position, then I think you'd have a reasonable argument for just using Eriksen's most recent numbers. But none of that is true. Eriksen is 27. He's in his prime. He's healthy. The way we play, and the way we use him has been largely consistent during Poch's regime and will remain so in the future. He's far more likely to return to his historical average than not. To ignore 5 years worth of performances in favor of the single most recent year is absurd.

I don't know how ANYBODY could think Eriksen will be easy to replace if he leaves. It should be obvious (but somehow isn't) that he's one of our best players, AND that we don't have anybody else who can do what he does as effectively as he does it. It honestly seems like the anti-Eriksen crowd is trolling, but somehow I think they really believe what they're saying.

So here's where we stand with Eriksen:

1) He's a very good player, one of the top players on the team, and has a unique skill set that will be very difficult to replace. But he's not the best on the team and not one of the best in the world.

2) He had a modestly off season last year, but was still good.

3) He's more likely to return to his long-term very good/verging on excellent performance level than repeat last season's performance level.
I'm pretty certain that there wouldn't be this level of criticism if he had signed a contract!
 
Very unlike Poch to bench Eriksen even for pre-season.

“Christian had minor surgery after the final, similar to Ben Davies, and that is why today rather than training with the group, [he was] training alone.
”We gave him the option to stay in London but he wanted to come because the medical staff decided that he can be available to play maybe, so he is here. It was his decision with the club and medical staff. It was a small procedure but now he’s ok.”

Quote from Poch. Eriksen was always questionable and might not even play this pre season trip. It all depends on if he is fit or not.

Inb4 haters saying that Eriksen wanted a free trip before leaving...
 
So here's where we stand with Eriksen:

1) He's a very good player, one of the top players on the team, and has a unique skill set that will be very difficult to replace. But he's not the best on the team and not one of the best in the world.

2) He had a modestly off season last year, but was still good.

3) He's more likely to return to his long-term very good/verging on excellent performance level than repeat last season's performance level.

Agree with first two points but why in point 3 is he 'more likely' to return to form ??. If he hasn't signed a new contract and is leaving on a free then yes he may well 'turn it on' next season for prospective suitors but there is a danger that he is given a new three year contract and a nice pay rise and has another (as you so eloquently put it) 'modestly off season' or even a 'complete mare'. He has another two years ahead and we have egg on our face. I'm not for one minute saying that will be the case but I would not assume a return to form just because he's staying.
 
I'm pretty certain that there wouldn't be this level of criticism if he had signed a contract!

No different to Cellebos signing for the cunts. Went from 4D chess move by Levy to gap year mercenary quite fast.

People are comparing logical reasons to emotional reactions. What the unknown for me is, is if he signs now after saying he wanted to go to a bigger team. I'll be happy but I would understand those fans who were left a little sour by the experience.
 
No different to Cellebos signing for the cunts. Went from 4D chess move by Levy to gap year mercenary quite fast.

People are comparing logical reasons to emotional reactions. What the unknown for me is, is if he signs now after saying he wanted to go to a bigger team. I'll be happy but I would understand those fans who were left a little sour by the experience.


I can see that, but at the end of the day we need to understand that these are professionals, and they don't have a long history with the club as fans like we do (save for the homegrown guys), so they look at this as a job.

What I ask of our players as a fan is to put a shift in when they're on the field and to treat the club with respect, and for my money Eriksen has always done that and continues to do that.
 
Agree with first two points but why in point 3 is he 'more likely' to return to form ??. If he hasn't signed a new contract and is leaving on a free then yes he may well 'turn it on' next season for prospective suitors but there is a danger that he is given a new three year contract and a nice pay rise and has another (as you so eloquently put it) 'modestly off season' or even a 'complete mare'. He has another two years ahead and we have egg on our face. I'm not for one minute saying that will be the case but I would not assume a return to form just because he's staying.

If he stays, I'll settle for another shit season like the last one where he equalled his most productive season ever for us with a combined 27 goals and assists in all comps.

Lucas Moura spent all season playing up front and he only managed 16 combined. Deli Alli managed 12 combined. Sissoko who spent half a season playing as an 8 and all the previous two seasons playing as an 8 or AM, has a combined 11 in three years, their threads must be carnage.
 
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